U.S. Ladies [#27]: A Time to Reboot

[olympic]

I tried to click and open the protocol for Ladies SP at Nebelhorn: No Luck! Shouldn't the competition be over at this point?

 

[SkateFanBerlin]

I tried to click and open the protocol for Ladies SP at Nebelhorn: No Luck! Shouldn't the competition be over at this point?

Right in the middle of Mariah's skate their whole website crashed.

 

[natsulian]

After two international competitions, three of our US ladies are in the top ten in their respective outings. Mariah Bell is in first at Nebelhorn after she executed a clean Short in which she received an under-rotation on the 3F+3T. Bell received a few Level 3’s, but was overall poised, energetic, and calm. Sarah Jung sits in sixth in Croatia after doubling her 3Lz+3T into a 3Lz+2T. Gabriella Izzo is in 9th place after falling on a 3F+3T. Good luck to the ladies in the Free.

 

[Tinami Amori]

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Right in the middle of Mariah's skate their whole website crashed.

On a european/east-european chat people are saying it is because of the censorship (in Germany) and the word "b-tch" in the song during programme. i don't know if it is true or not, only repeating what is being said.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

Guess thats why there no video at all of Mariah on the youtubes. If it crashed or was censored then no video.

 

[Marco]

Right in the middle of Mariah's skate their whole website crashed.

Was Britney Spears THAT bad?!

Great to see Mariah going for flip/toe now.

 

[natsulian]

Was Britney Spears THAT bad?!

Great to see Mariah going for flip/toe now.

Still under-rotated, but I think she'll be able to work with a 3F+3T much better than a 3Lz+3T. I think she's going to put a 3-3 in her program this year.

 

[Marco]

Still under-rotated, but I think she'll be able to work with a 3F+3T much better than a 3Lz+3T. I think she's going to put a 3-3 in her program this year.

It's more important to put the 3sal back in.

 

[natsulian]

It's more important to put the 3sal back in.

I totally forgot that she forgot a 3S existed last season.

2A, 3F+3T, 3Lo, 3S / 2A+3T, 3Lz+2T+2Lo, and 3Lz

That gives Mariah a base value of 62.63 assuming all Level 4s. If clean, she can score 73+ in TES, 63+ in PCS, and have a total score range of 205-212. I think Mariah's goal will be to peak at Worlds once again and hopefully earn Grand Prix and Challenger medals. Additionally, if she manages to consistently perform AND improve, her PCS will rise accordingly. Judging by the GOE, her jumps seem to have improved which is a good step. Best of luck to Bell in the Free. The fight for the two Worlds spots will be VERY interesting.

 

[Marco]

I am thinking along the lines of -

3flip3toe
3flip
2axel - 3sal
3lutz2toe2loop
3lutz
3loop
2axel

in some order

 

[aftershocks]

This site has pairs and ladies short program in one video; link accessed via U.S. figure skating fanzone

Dailymotion

www.dailymotion.com

ETA: Mariah is at the tail end of the video 6:52:32, and alas of course we only get to see not even a minute of her opening before the crash happens. Mariah was the second to last skater in the ladies division too. What a bummer!

Results page:

Nebelhorn Trophy 2019

www.deu-event.de

 

[haribobo]

Of the skaters who don't already have byes to Nationals, I THINK the "top 6 per section score NQS byes through Regionals would look something like this- but definitely would love to see some confirmation from USFS because who knows what I might have missed...

SENIOR LADIES-

EAST- Audrey Shin, Gabriella Izzo, Rena Ikenishi, Sarah Jung (if senior), Jill Heiner, Heidi Munger

MIDS- Amber Glenn, Pooja Kalyan, Paige Rydberg, Maxine Bautista, Stephanie Ciarochi, Akane Eguchi

PACS- Alex Evans (if senior), Emilia Murdock, Caitlin Ha, Sierra Venetta, Lily Sun, Brynne McIsaac

JUNIOR LADIES- Kate Wang P, Lindsey Thorngren E, Jessica Lin M, Ellen Slavicek P, Alena Budko P, Calista Choi M, Finley Hawk M, Emma Coppess P, Mia Kalin P, Noelle Rosa P, Indi Cha E, Tiffany Pennella E, etc....

 

[concorde]

I am about positive that skaters that have GP and/and Challenger Seriers slots get byes to Sectionals. At one point, a JGP had to be within 2 weeks of Regionals to get a bye to but I think that has been changed to all JGP skaters get a bye to Sectionals.

Then you get the top 6 NQS skaters getting a Bye to Sectionals.

I think both Kate and Linsdey get the bye through the JGP not the NQS. So I think their names get skipping in determining the top 6 for NQS byes.

 

[Debbie S]

Yes, any skater with a fall int'l assignment gets a bye to Sectionals.

Sarah Jung competed Senior at Chesapeake Open and Liberty/Philly so I assume she will be competing Senior this season.

 

[million$momma]

I am thinking along the lines of -

3flip3toe
3flip
2axel - 3sal
3lutz2toe2loop
3lutz
3loop
2axel

in some order

That layout doesnt work. It would have to be 2A-1eu-3sal. Then no 3lz-2t-2lo because you can't have 2 three jump combos.

 

[all_empty]

I am thinking along the lines of -

3flip3toe
3flip
2axel - 3sal
3lutz2toe2loop
3lutz
3loop
2axel

in some order

This is essentially the jump content she had during her breakout performance at the 2015 U.S. Nationals, switching out the planned 3T+3T with a 3F+3T.

Million$momma is correct though, the 3Lz+2T+2Lo Marco proposed would have to be a triple-double, preferably a 3Lz+2Lo (every little point counts -- just ask Medvedeva).

 

[Sylvia]

I totally forgot that she forgot a 3S existed last season.

Mariah Bell's FS jump layout at 2018 Nebelhorn Trophy included a triple & a double Salchow (the jump was taken out after that):
2A+3T
3S (-1.38 GOE)
3F+2T
2A
3Lz+1Eu+2S
3F
3Lz

New article on Mariah Bell ahead of Nebelhorn:
https://olympics.nbcsports.com/2019/09/26/nebelhorn-marks-fresh-start-for-mariah-bell/

I'm looking forward to seeing Mariah debut her FS to k.d. lang’s "Hallelujah" choreographed by Shae-Lynn Bourne. She's scheduled to compete in Oberstdorf at 7:34 am Eastern time tomorrow.

At JGP Zagreb tomorrow, Gabriella Izzo is scheduled to skate her FS at 1:48 pm Eastern time and Sarah Jung at 2:01 pm ET.

 

[natsulian]

Congratulations to Mariah Bell who won her VERY FIRST international gold medal as an individual skater. Bell scored 136 in the Free and executed a clean 3F+3T to score 205 overall. Bell received all Level 4s and no under-rotation calls, but did receive some edge warnings on the Lutz.

Protocol: http://www.deu-event.de/results/Nebelhorn_2019/CSGER2019_Ladies_FS_Scores.pdf

 

[BittyBug]

That was a fantastic season debut for Bell. She is so expressive on the ice and I am stoked to see the 3S back in her program.

 

[natsulian]

If Bell can deliver a clean Short and clean Long, she has a very good shot at surpassing the 215 mark. Now that she has the technicality and PCS, she needs to work on earning high GOE. Mariah is hungry for that World spot and is truly making a case for herself. Karen, Ting, Amber, and Starr will have to skate lights out and be consistent if they want to be in the conversation. We can’t say anything about Bradie yet as we have not seen her compete.

Also, Bell should do a 3Lz+2T+2Lo instead of 3Lz+2T which would give her nearly 2 extra points. Had she earned positive GOE on the 3Lo and added the 2Lo, she would’ve passed 140 easily. This is a very good start for Bell and it’s only onwards and upwards from here.

 

[Sylvia]

I'm looking forward to seeing Mariah debut her FS to k.d. lang’s "Hallelujah" choreographed by Shae-Lynn Bourne.

Here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Mq-lzi4Ow (eta: that's about as effusive as Arutunian can get in the kiss & cry with someone other than Nathan )

Very good start to her season!

 

[SmallFairy]

Bell was great today! As I wrote in the PBP thread, she really believes in her program and executes it to the max. Her passion will take her far. And so will her technique if she keeps skating like this

 

[SmallFairy]

Here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Mq-lzi4Ow (eta: that's about as effusive as Arutunian can get in the kiss & cry with someone other than Nathan )

Very good start to her season!

Wasn’t Raf quite enthusiastic with Adam at a few occasions?

 

[olympic]

Bell was leaving out a 3 jump combo last year, too. I'm sure Raf will work on that w/ her as it appears she is locking down her performance and is ready to handle further improvements.

 

[flyingsit]

Bell has become positively Kwanesque in the way that her movement and emotion seem absolutely natural and innate. It doesn’t look like choreography, it looks like she put on music and is just interpreting it as she goes.

 

[natsulian]

Bell has become positively Kwanesque in the way that her movement and emotion seem absolutely natural and innate. It doesn’t look like choreography, it looks like she put on music and is just interpreting it as she goes.

When I was watching the performance, it reminded of Michelle Kwan so much! Onwards and upwards!

Also, Canadian singer, Canadian composer, Canadian choreographer, and Canadian Worlds... do you guys see the pattern? Mariah's clearly ready for Montreal, Canada.

 

[all_empty]

A great start to Mariah's season.

And the Salchow is back too, which is promising.

They'll need to add the second 2A back in somewhere (the extra four points or so is absolutely needed to compete with the very best -- especially with more and more trying triple Axel and quads).

Perhaps she can take a page out of Tuk's book and do a 3Lz+2A sequence if she's not going to do a "true" combo and of course, add that three-jump. Hate to sound like it's strictly numbers but that's the game everyone is playing nowadays.

Good luck to her this season.

 

[cheremary]

Wonderful season debut for Mariah!

If anyone finds a video of her short program, could you please share it? I understand the livestream cut out during her program, but hopefully a fancam or something surfaces. Hallelujah was beautiful, but I’m more curious about the SP mainly because it’s such a departure stylistically for her.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

Im so looking forward to January already!!!!!!

With Liu and Tennell and Bell the podium probably... Im excited to see Gold and Edmunds as well but I wont really factor them as podiums until the 20-21 season should they continue.

Then give me some Glenn, Cui, Andrews and Harrell and Im thinking of getting my tooshie to Nationals!!!!!



Thats 9 contenders right there!

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

Wonderful season debut for Mariah!

If anyone finds a video of her short program, could you please share it?

As far as I know there wont be any, unless there are fan cams out there.

When the website crashed it meant no complete video of her.

@aftershocks did find a video (is it called dailymotion or something?) that shows her first 15 seconds.