U.S. Ladies [#21]: Wrapped Up with a Neat Little BOW

[berthesghost]

When do the judges get to do their business of judging?

During the actual competition.

They shouldn’t imo be spending months ahead of time stressing about if a skater is too distracted by school, boyfriends, endorsement opportunities Etc or trying to guess if their music will be liked by other judges or not, or if their costume is right.

 

[bardtoob]

During the actual competition.

They shouldn’t imo be spending months ahead of time stressing about if a skater is too distracted by school, boyfriends, endorsement opportunities Etc or trying to guess if their music will be liked by other judges or not, or if their costume is right.

But liking the music and costume is some of the central BS of the sport

 

[Willin]

I do think they should be thinking if the music will be liked by the judges or not. Obviously there are a lot of cases where creative choices worked, or where judges gave crazy PCS far above what the skater(s) deserved (Tarasova/Morozov's Candyman), but it should be considered. I think Alina choosing Don Quixote was a brilliant choice - little to interpret, just lots of energy and musical cues perfect for her jumps - and probably helped get her the gold. On the other hand, I think Bradie's choice of Cinderella was holding her back on the PCS end.

Obviously USFS has made bad recommendations in the past (asking Jason to do away with Riverdance), but generally they're pretty spot on.

I don't think they should care about costume as much, as that isn't directly in the score most of the time, but they need to be conscious of costume violations. I haven't seen any in ladies, but in synchro I've seen one (skirts too long - called only at Worlds), and I've seen at least one in dance and a few more that should've been called.

 

[Dobre]

Obviously USFS has made bad recommendations in the past (asking Jason to do away with Riverdance), but generally they're pretty spot on.

Seriously? You didn't think it was insane that we had Karen, Vincent, Ashley, the Knierems, Manta & Johnson, Hochstein, and Torgashev all cycle through Moulin Rouge this season?

 

[Willin]

@Dobre I have no idea why I added that last part now. Maybe I was more thinking that they know which music suits which skater, but don't look at the bigger picture of how many skaters are skating to a given piece of music.

 

[AxelAnnie]

@Dobre I have no idea why I added that last part now. Maybe I was more thinking that they know which music suits which skater, but don't look at the bigger picture of how many skaters are skating to a given piece of music.

I think music should be "reserved" by the skaters. First come, first served.

 

[coppertop1]

I think music should be "reserved" by the skaters. First come, first served.

At most, no more than than two skaters per disciplinary using the same music

 

[Vagabond]

That would lead to trading in Carmen futures.

 

[Willin]

I think it would be fun to have a fight to the death for a warhorse.

Or, perhaps more realistically, there would be a music reservation system that works as such.
1. Skaters sign up beginning exactly one week after the end of the World Championships.
2. Skaters must indicate both which source (ie. Moulin Rouge) and which piece from that source (ie. "Roxanne").
3. Skaters can choose music from the same source, but not the same piece. (ie. if a skater uses "All I ask of You" and "Music of the Night," another skater looking to do POTO may not use either of those songs.)

And, a pipe dream:
1. All pieces of music not performed to at a previous Olympics or World Championships will receive a mandatory +1.00 creativity bonus. All pieces of music used at fewer than 5 Olympics/WCs in any discipline will receive a +0.50 creativity bonus.

 

[Elisheba]

That would lead to trading in Carmen futures.

I will see your carmens and raise you Black Swans and Swan Lakes.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

I will see your carmens and raise you Black Swans and Swan Lakes.

I will see your Seven Swans A Swimming and raise you POTO. bleh

 

[Vagabond]

I will see your carmens and raise you Black Swans and Swan Lakes.

What we need is Cap and Trade, with the goal of zero Carmen emissions by 2030.

 

[Frida80]

What about Romeo and Juliet?

 

[coppertop1]

And Phantom of the Opera

 

[Elisheba]

What about Romeo and Juliet?

Better than “Feeling Good”

 

[Frida80]

Better than “Feeling Good”

I need at least one feeling good to see Jackie Wong twitter meltdown per season.

It no more, “I put a spell on you,” please.

 

[manhn]

With Ashley, I thought Ashley returned to MR because USFSA hated La La Land.

 

[Frida80]

With Ashley, I thought Ashley returned to MR because USFSA hated La La Land.

Who knows the real story. The USFSA has never been know for making good decisions.

 

[Spun Silver]

Nobody proposed fines for picking Tosca and Turandot yet?

 

[skateboy]

Nobody proposed fines for picking Tosca and Turandot yet?

I will shout "Hallelujah" if I never have to hear it again.

 

[Wyliefan]

I will see your carmens and raise you Black Swans and Swan Lakes.

If I were a skater, I'd skate as the White Swan just to be different.

 

[Vagabond]

If I were a skater, I'd skate as the White Swan just to be different.

Different, just like everyone else.

Same old, same old.

I'd suggest skating to Ravel's Mother Goose Suite instead.

 

[Frida80]

Here’s a few more:

Papa Can You Here Me?
Send in the Clowns
Les Mis —emphasis on: On My Own, Bring Him Home, I Dream a Dream, And One Day More
Rhapsody in Blue

 

[Dr.Siouxs]

"Gabriel's Oboe"

 

[Elisheba]

Nobody proposed fines for picking Tosca and Turandot yet?

As long as it isn't "Nessun Dorma" I'm ok with Turandot.

 

[Spun Silver]

As long as it isn't "Nessun Dorma" I'm ok with Turandot.

What, Turandot is more than Nessun Dorma?

 

[Elisheba]

What, Turandot is more than Nessun Dorma?

Nope. All 2 hours or so of music is Nessun Dorma. My bad.

 

[MIsty Blades/Skate Mom]

In both skating and gymnastics, you hear a lot of the same music over and over. You can buy skating/gymnastics music online too. I guess it is cheaper and easier for athletes.

 

[vesperholly]

Nope. All 2 hours or so of music is Nessun Dorma. My bad.

Sarcasm?

Nessun Dorma is an aria that is part of Turandot, the opera. For example, here is "Gira La Cote" - decidedly not Nessun Dorma.

I actually like the instrumental version of Nessun Dorma

 

[Elisheba]

Sarcasm?

Nessun Dorma is an aria that is part of Turandot, the opera. For example, here is "Gira La Cote" - decidedly not Nessun Dorma.

I actually like the instrumental version of Nessun Dorma

Sarcasm. Yes, I have seen Turandot staged in its entirety. I actually like. it even with vocals, except for “Nessun Dorma” which seems to be the only thing anyone performs.