hmmm, I do... shes wearing something similar to the last time I saw Lip...at Rostelecom when she withdrew.. also her hair, her layback and also many of her positions.Not even a little bit.
Show me a top skater who has NOT skated to several of the following choices: tangos (all 100 of them), latin rhythms (all 100 of them), middle-eastern sound, jewish themes (SL, hava-nagila, bublichki, bei mir bis du schoen), asian themes (turandot, geisha, chio-chio-san), jazz and blues, etc..Nobody would say anything like that if a skater skated to music that was made by white people multiple times in a row nor would they say its limiting. Of course it's not surprising to me that people like Dave and Jonathan would buy that line of thinking.
The minute she left the "obscurity of juniors", stepped into a visible spot-light and hit Senior ranks to skate at Nationals and Internationally, past season and this season, when it is the right time to develop "identity".Show me where Starr Andrews has ONLY skated to black singers. And my post didn't say skaters ONLY skated to white composers/artists. Read again.
Because all black artists are the same and perform in the same genre?
Go back to decipher what you said. That is what it boils down to...I'm not sure if this was a response to my post but I said absolutely nothing of the sort.
You may not realize it, but your above statement suggests that African-American artists all create within the same musical genre, which is clearly not the case. Moreover, African-Americans should not be lumped together as one 'race' either. All Americans, including darker-skinned Americans originate from a variety of different 'ethnic' backgrounds and cultures. Believe it or not! America is a huge melting pot. And btw, humans are all more alike than we are different.... if Starr is limiting her possibilities of expanding as a skater by only skate to music by African-American artists is legitimate.
Thank you for your overall comments @Dobre. Starr skated to the music of Black Swan for her fp in the 2016 - 2017 season, as I mentioned in an earlier post. Also, I would point out that none of us know whether any stance has been taken, or if there is a stance that's been taken, what it is exactly. The anecdote and quote are all hearsay from Dave Lease, possibly partly assumed, made-up, or even misinterpreted. Which in the long run makes no difference, since there's absolutely nothing amiss if African-American artists are going to be Starr's preference for choosing between various musical genres for awhile. In any case, AFAIK, no such announcement has ever been made. And I would not trust Dave Lease nor any of his gossipy sources.She skated to Swan Lake only two years ago? There are a plethora of black artists that produce music in a plethora of genres so I don't fear that Starr will be too limited with the stance she and/or her family is taking.
Thank you for the clarification. I misinterpreted the comments above. I don't watch TSL, and I'm not changing my stance on that so my apologies if any portion of my posts seem irrelevant to that part of the conversation.
Like when she's skating to a soundtrack by Hans Zimmer for her long program this season?The minute she left the "obscurity of juniors", stepped into a visible spot-light and hit Senior ranks to skate at Nationals and Internationally, past season and this season, when it is the right time to develop "identity".
@Frida80, which part of Starr's FS program is to The Rain Maker
The FS is actually, the Rain Maker by Hans Zimmer.
I think the version of Summertime (with Ella Fitzgerald and Louis Armstrong) that Starr chose is quite wonderful, as someone else pointed out earlier in this thread. It's very fitting, and she skated to it beautifully.My irritation is that they’re going after Starr for skating one of the most common pieces in the world. Gubanova skated to this very same version in her SP last year. Kaetlyn was going to skate to summertime before changing back to her old SP. Last year’s winner of of AGT sung summertime. But for some reason, Starr can’t skate to it because she’s black and that’s a black artist. Disgusting.
I did Shazam in the very beginning, that’s the soundtrack that popped up.
This seasonLike when she's skating to a soundtrack by Hans Zimmer for her long program this season?
No.Yes, Starr's FS music is supposed to be a medley of different pieces; does Xotica: Journey to the Heart soundtrack by Rene Dupere come up via the Shazam app?
well..... his nasty comments did not stop Zag in Tutu, Med in Mime, or Trusova (the jumping bean and nothing else...)..I’ve never shied away from critiquing her or other young skaters, because criticism helps us improve. This isn’t criticism. This won’t make anyone improve. It’s designed to keep people in a box. It’s to belittle them and make them feel inferior. I hope she knows that. I hope she learns the resilience to deals with these nasty comments.
Like I said before, 'melanin' is always the elephant in the room. And here's another distraction for you: the word 'slave' derives from the term Slavs, which refers to 'Slavic people' from various regions and 'ethnic' backgrounds (including Russians, Czechs, Ukrainians, Poles, Slovaks, etc). Slavs were historically enslaved by armies of Mongols and Turks. But eventually Slavic people turned the tide of their history and cultures.The distraction started with "melanin" which was never mentioned in connection to Starr in TSL's interivew...
I already know she’s been on GS as well as her mother in the past. I’m not sure if they’ve been over here.Also, I hope she learns that you need to stay off forums like these if you are a skater.
(Seriously, it's not helpful. Their team can send over any comments that actually are helpful/nice.)
In your room. In Dave's/TSL's "room" it is anything they can pick on in skaters/coaches they don't like.Like I said before, 'melanin' is always the elephant in the room.
Save the "slavs" issue for the "slavs"..... You need to give me my relevant distraction: Ghetto - Venician enclosure for the Jews"...And here's another distraction for you: the word 'slave' derives from the term Slavs, which refers to 'Slavic people' from various regions and 'ethnic' backgrounds (including Russians, Czechs, Ukrainians, Poles, Slovaks, etc). Slavs were historically enslaved by armies of Mongols and Turks. But eventually Slavic people turned the tide of their history and cultures.
Slavery was first officially documented Mesopatamia in 18th century BC, and legitimized by the Code of Hammburabi, Section #15, "of Slaves and laws"... which is in the Near East (later arab land....)And now due to infamous and epic enslavement in the Americas of African people (from various regions and 'ethnic' backgrounds), the term 'slave' has come to be associated with so-called 'African-Americans.' Wow, what a kicker. Distract and twist that if you will.
tell that to my cousine... she thinks she is prettier..As I said, we are all more alike than we are different.
Now that she's been noticed by the public, that's a bad idea. But I'm sure USFS and others around her will be telling her that. (It's pretty common advice to young skaters starting to get noticed.)I already know she’s been on GS as well as her mother in the past. I’m not sure if they’ve been over here.
I've had that poster and a few others on ignore for a while now. It makes the conversation s little confusing but it's much classier now.Ignore is your friend. Ignore the trash talkers here. And ignore Trashy Skating Lesson. All this discussion is doing is giving trolls publicity