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Re-posting here from Malinin's fan thread... Ilia's pre-Skate America media call happened on Thursday (Oct. 12) - copying out Figure Skaters Online's 8 consecutive posts on X (link to the first post https://twitter.com/fsonline/status/1712605225545330870):

Taking two courses at George Mason University right now. The family is considering moving to California, which is where choreographer Shae-Lynn Bourne is.
"Going to the Olympics is always one of my goals, but I always try to keep it real with my health going into each competition." He likes to focus on each competition.
"When I get on the ice, I just want to get into that zone," (In regards to all of the eyes/pressure being on him at each competition.

He wants to attempt a quad loop and quad Axel in the future, but not during the Grand Prix series. His goal is to make the Final, where he could perform them.
He is also taking a dance class at GMU for his artistry/ trying to make it cleaner. Looks forward to adding a quad loop some time.
"It makes sense to keep doing triple Axels for the base value, but for me, I like to take risks (with the quad Axel). I am going to keep practicing and maybe some day bring it to the long program."
"All of the traveling I have done has opened my eyes. It shows who I am as a person, and it opens my personality in my skating. I put more time and effort in the smaller details."
Still thinks the 'Quad God' is an appropriate nickname. If his body is healthy, he would like to defy physics with his jumping. He wants to try unique jumps and rotations towards the end of the season.


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Copying out a few different quotes transcribed by Claire in her thread: https://twitter.com/ClaireCloutier/status/1712621031142076848
He prefers working with Bourne in person, as he can see her movements & understand her directions better that way. He finds working on choreography over Zoom to be less than ideal.
"Over the next couple of years, I think I'll be able to show more & more of my personality in my skating. Before I was afraid in a way, because of those big elements I had to put a lot of energy into." With those elements now becoming more routine, he can focus on performance. [...]
Despite his current focus on artistry, Malinin remains as committed as ever to upping the ante technically. He aspires to do two quad Axels in a free skate.
Malinin also mentioned trying "a couple new jumps," "a couple combinations," or "more rotations," possibly toward the end of the season, or after this season is finished.
 
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Samuel Mindra, who I adored last season is in third place right now [last week's Kings Cup International]. Hope he Continues to develop.
Belatedly, the Kings Cup International top 3 (only 6 senior men competed so no ISU WS standings points):
Goku ENDO USA 231.41 2 1 (155.68 in FS - landed 7 of his 8 triples cleanly incl. both 3A)
Yaroslav PANIOT USA 222.58 1 2 (135.11) - landed 4F in both programs - his FS clip: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyJVXswR14O/
Samuel MINDRA USA 202.98 3 3 (130.71)

Last week I posted a video (made from the the Kings Cup International free livestream) of Samuel Mindra's SP -- his cool, catchy music is "Shcho z-pod duba" [🇺🇦: Шо з-под дуба] by DakhaBrakha -- in the Kiss & Cry section and forgot to cross-post the link in this thread (he performed more cleanly in LA (72.27) than in his Tayside Trophy SP (69.99) earlier today in Dundee): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFX5-v3OHzA
 

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As a longstanding fan of Goku Endo, I hope that his Kings Cup success 🥳 will lead to another international assignment this season (preferably a Challenger to earn an ISU SB).
It was very exciting to watch Goku deliver relatively clean performances (not perfect, but an admirable improvement from events where mistakes have added up and held him back).

As of now, Goku has the third highest international score among U.S. men this season, if I am not mistaken:

281.68 Ilia Malinin at CS Autumn Classic
233.26 Andrew Torgashev at CS Lombardia
231.49 Goku Endo at Kings Cup
222.58 Yaroslav Paniot at Kings Cup
222.49 Jimmy Ma at Cranberry Cup
220.09 Daniel Martynov at JGP Armenia
216.10 Lucas Broussard at CS Nebelhorn​

I also am a longstanding fan of Mindra, and always appreciate his skating.

oh my gosh has anybody here ever heard of David Shapiro? ...

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

Welcome to the David Shapiro fan club!
His expression and style first turned my head at 2018 Philadelphia Summer Championships. Although I went to IceWorks mostly to watch the international events, I thankfully happened to catch David in Junior Men in the club competition. I was very glad to see him live again at Nats in 2019 and 2020.
I know others have been following the remarkable David longer than I have.

Throwing back to a snippet of David skating a mini-duet with Polina Edmunds in 2021 and her compliment to him:

 
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Watch Tomoki's BRONZE medal winning free skate (154.63, 223.79 total) in Budapest earlier today... while you can!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OlXkNMtONE

Jumps: 4T (9.50 bv+1.90 goe = 11.40), 3Lz+3T (10.10+1.18=11.28), 3A (-1.12 hand), 3S / 3A+2A+SEQ (11.30+1.12=12.42), 3Lz+1Eu+3Fq (12.87-0.59=12.28), 3Lo.
Mie Hamada has gotten him to calm down and control the adrenalin. I haven't seen him skate like this in years!
 

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Watch Tomoki's BRONZE medal winning free skate (154.63, 223.79 total) in Budapest earlier today... while you can!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OlXkNMtONE

Jumps: 4T (9.50 bv+1.90 goe = 11.40), 3Lz+3T (10.10+1.18=11.28), 3A (-1.12 hand), 3S / 3A+2A+SEQ (11.30+1.12=12.42), 3Lz+1Eu+3Fq (12.87-0.59=12.28), 3Lo.
🤔 That program cries out to be performed at Finlandia. USFS, take note!
 

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Finally Healthy, Andrew Torgashev to Make Grand Prix Debut at Skate America with An Eye on the Future - Fan Zone article by Darci Miller (Oct. 16):
"When I was first competing again, it felt like starting from scratch," Torgashev said. "I felt like I was 10 years old again and nervous at these local competitions.
"It did kind of teach me not to take things for granted so much. Like, all of these assignments, being on Team USA, being at nationals, having opportunities to go and represent your country at competition. I was definitely taking that for granted because I had been doing it for most of my career, until it wasn't there. Nobody was sending emails, 'Hey, what competitions would you like to attend this year?' There was none of that. We had to build back up from scratch, for the most part."
ETA a related video - YT link to USFS' 2-minute "Inside The Season" series video on Andrew: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmD4Z-NjwjA
 
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US SENIOR MEN as of 10/15/2023

International Standings (some scores are junior events)
280+ Ilia Malinin
230+ Andrew Torgashev, Goku Endo
220+ Tomoki Hiwatashi, Yaroslav Paniot, Jimmy Ma, Daniel Martynov
210+ Lucas Broussard, Camden Pulkinen
200+ Michael Xie, Samuel Mindra, Maxim Naumov
190+ Liam Kapeikis
180+ Daniil Murzin, Maxim Zharkov, Will Annis, Kai Kovar
170+ Joseph Klein

NQS Standings
220+ Tomoki Hiwatashi, Daniil Murzin, Kai Kovar
210+ Yaroslav Paniot, Maxim Zharkov, Goku Endo, Joseph Klein
200+ Will Annis, Emmanuel Savary, Liam Kapeikis
190+ Eric Sjoberg, Paul Yeung
180+ Samuel Mindra, Michael Xie, Daniel Samohin
 

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^^^ I think Andrew's other fans here will be happy, too ;) (I came across his 2-minute video after I had posted above and edited in the link).

Ilia Malinin was featured in USFS' first "Inside the Season" series (1 min. video) that I had posted in his fan thread - "Hear from Team USA's own Ilia Malinin on his goals for the 2023 season and what new elements fans can expect to see from him on the ice!": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYULI57nqNE
 
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US SENIOR MEN as of 10/15/2023

International Standings (some scores are junior events)
I think I like this scores range format better ;) - I've added the competitions/placements below.

280+ Ilia Malinin [CS Autumn Classic, 1st]
230+ Andrew Torgashev [CS Lombardia, 3rd], Goku Endo [Kings Cup, 1st]
220+ Tomoki Hiwatashi [CS Budapest, 3rd], Yaroslav Paniot [Kings Cup, 2nd], Jimmy Ma [Cranberry Cup, 3rd], Daniel Martynov [JGP ARM, 1st]
210+ Lucas Broussard [CS Nebelhorn, 4th], Camden Pulkinen [CS Lombardia, 4th]
200+ Michael Xie [JGP JPN, 4th], Samuel Mindra [Kings Cup, 3rd], Maxim Naumov [CS Nepela, 11th]
190+ Liam Kapeikis [Cranberry Cup, 6th]
180+ Daniil Murzin [Cranberry Cup, 7th], Maxim Zharkov [Cranberry Cup, 8th], Will Annis [Cranberry Cup, 9th], Kai Kovar [Kings Cup, 4th]
170+ Joseph Klein [Cranberry Cup, 13th]

ISU Season Best Total Scores of 180+ as of Oct. 16, 2023 (Strommer, Sanchez & Fegan are competing Junior domestically):

1Ilia MALININUSAISU CS Autumn Classic 202316/09/2023281.68S
15Andrew TORGASHEVUSAISU CS Lombardia Trophy 202310/09/2023233.26S
22Tomoki HIWATASHIUSAISU CS Budapest Trophy 202315/10/2023223.79S
27Daniel MARTYNOVUSAISU JGP Armenian Cup 202307/10/2023220.09J
30Lucas BROUSSARDUSAISU CS Nebelhorn Trophy 202322/09/2023216.10S
37Beck STROMMERUSAISU JGP Cup of Austria 202302/09/2023210.92J
38Camden PULKINENUSAISU CS Lombardia Trophy 202310/09/2023210.46S
50Michael XIEUSAISU JGP Osaka 202315/09/2023204.13J
51Maxim NAUMOVUSAISU CS Nepela Memorial 202330/09/2023201.71S
52Jacob SANCHEZUSAISU JGP Bangkok 202326/08/2023201.49J
59Jimmy MAUSAISU CS Autumn Classic 202316/09/2023191.08S
65Aleksandr FEGANUSAISU JGP Armenian Cup 202307/10/2023185.78J
71Liam KAPEIKISUSAISU CS Finlandia Trophy 202307/10/2023181.03S
 

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Another article for Torgashev fans!:D By Scott Mammoser (Oct. 18):
Excerpt:
“I am building content in the program to compete with the top 10 at Worlds,” said the Florida native who now trains in Irvine, California with Rafael Arutyunyan. “In terms of injury, I don’t think we are ever safe. It’s always something to be very mindful of. Especially, if we are trying to add more quads into the program and more difficulty, it requires more loads in training. Overall, I feel more confident.”
Choreographer Shae-Lynn Bourne is someone Torgashev really admires, so when the former Canadian Olympic ice dancer suggested “L’enfer” by Stromae for this season’s short program, he was thrilled. Torgashev said he listened to the music about 20 times as soon as Bourne sent it to him.
“My goal last year before Nationals was to skate of a quality where Shae-Lynn would do a program with me for the next season,” Torgashev said. “I am glad it worked out. This (short program) is about dealing with loneliness and all of these thoughts in your mind. This one is very dear to my heart, and it is a joy to train. I can speak only highly of Shae-Lynn. My words can’t do her justice. It’s an honor to have her do that program.”
 

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ISU Season Best Total Scores of 180+ as of Oct. 16, 2023 (Strommer, Sanchez & Fegan are competing Junior domestically):
1Ilia MALININUSAISU CS Autumn Classic 202316/09/2023281.68S
15Andrew TORGASHEVUSAISU CS Lombardia Trophy 202310/09/2023233.26S
22Tomoki HIWATASHIUSAISU CS Budapest Trophy 202315/10/2023223.79S
27Daniel MARTYNOVUSAISU JGP Armenian Cup 202307/10/2023220.09J
30Lucas BROUSSARDUSAISU CS Nebelhorn Trophy 202322/09/2023216.10S
37Beck STROMMERUSAISU JGP Cup of Austria 202302/09/2023210.92J
38Camden PULKINENUSAISU CS Lombardia Trophy 202310/09/2023210.46S
50Michael XIEUSAISU JGP Osaka 202315/09/2023204.13J
51Maxim NAUMOVUSAISU CS Nepela Memorial 202330/09/2023201.71S
52Jacob SANCHEZUSAISU JGP Bangkok 202326/08/2023201.49J
59Jimmy MAUSAISU CS Autumn Classic 202316/09/2023191.08S
65Aleksandr FEGANUSAISU JGP Armenian Cup 202307/10/2023185.78J
71Liam KAPEIKISUSAISU CS Finlandia Trophy 202307/10/2023181.03S
ISU Season Best Total Scores of 200+ updated after Skate Canada International (Oct. 28):
1Ilia MALININUSAISU GP Skate America 2023 - 1st21/10/2023310.47S
20Andrew TORGASHEVUSAISU CS Lombardia Trophy 2023 - 3rd10/09/2023233.26S
26Tomoki HIWATASHIUSAISU CS Budapest Trophy 2023 - 3rd15/10/2023223.79S
32Liam KAPEIKISUSAISU GP Skate Canada International 2023 - 8th28/10/2023220.15S
33Daniel MARTYNOVUSAISU JGP Armenian Cup 2023 - 1st07/10/2023220.09J
37Lucas BROUSSARDUSAISU CS Nebelhorn Trophy 2023 - 4th22/09/2023216.10S
44Beck STROMMERUSAISU JGP Cup of Austria 2023 - 3rd [200.22 at JGP POL, 2nd]02/09/2023210.92J
45Maxim NAUMOVUSAISU GP Skate America 2023 - 10th21/10/2023210.53S
46Camden PULKINENUSAISU CS Lombardia Trophy 2023 - 4th10/09/2023210.46S
56Michael XIEUSAISU JGP Osaka 2023 - 4th15/09/2023204.13J

Top 6 ISU SB SP scores as of today:
1Ilia MALININUSAISU GP Skate America 202320/10/2023104.06S
11Andrew TORGASHEVUSAISU CS Lombardia Trophy 202308/09/202386.41S
23Daniel MARTYNOVUSAISU JGP Armenian Cup 202305/10/202379.24J
27Jacob SANCHEZUSAISU JGP Bangkok 202324/08/202377.69J
45Liam KAPEIKISUSAISU GP Skate Canada International 202327/10/202371.59S
47Maxim NAUMOVUSAISU GP Skate America 202320/10/202370.73S

Top 10 ISU SB FS scores as of today:
1Ilia MALININUSAISU GP Skate America 202321/10/2023206.41S
21Tomoki HIWATASHIUSAISU CS Budapest Trophy 202315/10/2023154.63S
23Andrew TORGASHEVUSAISU GP Skate America 202321/10/2023150.96S
25Liam KAPEIKISUSAISU GP Skate Canada International 202328/10/2023148.56S
28Camden PULKINENUSAISU CS Lombardia Trophy 202310/09/2023147.50S
31Lucas BROUSSARDUSAISU CS Nebelhorn Trophy 202322/09/2023146.11S
40Beck STROMMERUSAISU JGP Cup of Austria 202302/09/2023140.94J
42Daniel MARTYNOVUSAISU JGP Armenian Cup 202307/10/2023140.85J
44Michael XIEUSAISU JGP Osaka 202315/09/2023140.51J
47Maxim NAUMOVUSAISU GP Skate America 202321/10/2023139.80S
 
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Boy it's slim pickings after Ilia thank goodness Jason is probably going to go to Worlds again with him otherwise the US would be hard pressed to keep that 3rd spot with what the US has right now other then Ilia..
 

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GP France results:
2 Ilia MALININ 304.68 1 (101.58) 2 (203.10; highest TES with 116.12) - has qualified for his 2nd Grand Prix Final
5 Camden PULKINEN 230.84 6 (83.44) 7 (147.40) - new ISU SB scores in SP & Total

The first 2 Senior men's qualifying spots for 2024 Nationals go to the top 2 finishers in the Eastern Sectional that just finished:
Will Annis 200.31
Daniel Samohin 195.14 (last competed for ISR at CS Golden Spin in Dec. 2021; he was the 2013 U.S. Novice Men's pewter medalist :))
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Lucas Altieri 191.11
Emmanuel Savary 190.00
Philip Baker 189.09
4 spots TBD by next highest total scores after other 2 Sectionals finish.
 

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What is going on with Camden? I get falling on a quad, but he lost 6 points doubling jumps in the LP at GP France. In the words of John Nicks to Ashley back in 2011 -> Elite skaters don't do that at this point [paraphrasing]

ETA - Q: Is Jason Brown planning to compete at Nationals and possibly Worlds? I am sure it's being chatted about somewhere but I missed it. It seems like US men need a good wingman judging by the scores above.
 

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What is going on with Camden? I get falling on a quad, but he lost 6 points doubling jumps in the LP at GP France. In the words of John Nicks to Ashley back in 2011 -> Elite skaters don't do that at this point [paraphrasing]

ETA - Q: Is Jason Brown planning to compete at Nationals and possibly Worlds? I am sure it's being chatted about somewhere but I missed it. It seems like US men need a good wingman judging by the scores above.

I feel this is pretty normal for Cam. I wish he could consistently skate clean because I love his skating but that doesn’t seem to happen very often.

Jason does plan to compete at nationals and likely worlds.
 

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ETA - Q: Is Jason Brown planning to compete at Nationals and possibly Worlds?
As posted up thread, Jason is scheduled to compete at CS Warsaw Cup, Nov. 15-19. He has a bye to Nationals due to his 3rd place finish last year. His fan thread is updated fairly regularly. :)

His 2 new programs are Adios by Benjamine Clementine (SP) and The Legend of Tarzan (soundtrack) by Rupert Gregson-Williams (FS), both choreographed by Rohene Ward: http://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00012123.htm

ETA - here's a short practice clip Jason shared recently: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzKnUZDsPBc/
 
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Camden improved his ISU SB total score in Angers, France by 20 points from Lombardia Trophy in Sept. (210 to 230).
Ilia has been consistent, score-wise: 306.78 in France; 310.47 at Skate America.

Jimmy Ma will compete in his first of 2 back-to-back Grand Prix competitions in China this week and Finland next week.

@reut interviewed Lucas Broussard at Nebelhorn Trophy in September (first part of this article that was published on Nov. 3): http://absoluteskating.com/index.php?cat=interviews&id=2023teamusa
Excerpt re. his classical FS music:
And why this music? This is this continuous discussion: why would skaters keep taking the same well known music again and again.
Yes, but most people don't choose 'Spring'. The first time we had an idea to take 'The Four Seasons' was last year in Poland (during the ISU JGP Solidarity Cup 2022 in Gdansk) and there were two skaters there who had 'Summer.' And so we talked with Corrie [Martin, his longtime choreographer] that we both loved that music. And then I saw ice dancers using 'Spring' and I love 'Spring', but at first Corrie didn't like it and said that part was 'too childish', but we ended up using all three!
He will make his Grand Prix debut this week at Cup of China.
 
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