U.S. Ladies [#30]: Cover Girls

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A lot of us have been here for a long time and are aware of others' posting history.

Generally, when someone asks a question on a message board, it's because they want to hear from a member of the community.

Taking the time to respond just to tell someone to go answer their own question is a choice .
 
No one on this board is obligated to answer anyone else’s question. Any participation is on a completely voluntary basis. Someone provided a link that could answer a question (which she did not have to do), yet she is then chastised for not doing enough?! LOL.
Well, silly me for thinking that on an internet social group that people would be, well...... social? Or is that worthy of an "LOL"? To you it obviously is. I hope you aren't in the majority here... Sometimes I ask a question that I could easily find the answer to just to start a discussion. You know, like being SOCIAL. Some people here might be really lovely at social events, I can see.... YMMV. Hey, it takes all kinds. Let's just embrace it and our differences, shall we?
 
A lot of us have been here for a long time and are aware of others' posting history.

Generally, when someone asks a question on a message board, it's because they want to hear from a member of the community.

Taking the time to respond just to tell someone to go answer their own question is a choice .
Yes, exactly. And in my opinion, an obnoxious choice. If anything, the question was back to Vag who mentioned that she couldn't believe what Ting said about her parents. It would have been more polite, if instead of another poster taking time out of her day only to type "Look it up", that we would have given Vag the time to explain what she meant. Right? Isn't that how normal people behave in social situations? Sometimes I wonder about people.... And to be fair to the person who asked Vag to explain what Ting said about her parents, I thought I read the entire article. I didn't see or notice anything remarkable about what she said about her parents and publicly too. I thought maybe I wasn't paying as much attention as I should have been the first time around. What exactly about what she said about her parents was so shocking, Vag? And please don't tell me to look it up. LOL!!!!!!
 
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This argument is sort of hilarious, because, I mean really...is there anyone on this board who is even within a galaxy of posting the amount of information and being as helpful and informative Sylvia is? I get that perhaps you read her post in the wrong tone, but Sylvia posts a lot of information every day, y'all! Like a Lot!
 
A lot of us have been here for a long time and are aware of others' posting history.

Generally, when someone asks a question on a message board, it's because they want to hear from a member of the community.

Taking the time to respond just to tell someone to go answer their own question is a choice .

Asking someone to do the emotional labor of summarizing something you can easily read for yourself is also a choice. :shuffle:
 
This argument is sort of hilarious, because, I mean really...is there anyone on this board who is even within a galaxy of posting the amount of information and being as helpful and informative Sylvia is? I get that perhaps you read her post in the wrong tone, but Sylvia posts a lot of information every day, y'all! Like a Lot!
Well, yes. I really don't pay much attention to the aliases/pseuds/names of posters very much. Yes, Sylvia has like 100,000 posts here compared to my measly 500, but if she's supplying the info, maybe if someone asks a question she shouldn't just say do the research yourself and just wait for someone else to answer. God, what a derail. I am very sorry. But maybe in terms of future conversations it will help the discussion if, as the saying goes, "If you have nothing to contribute to a conversation, then just say nothing." That's how normal people act, right?

"Asking someone to do the emotional labor of summarizing something you can easily read for yourself is also a choice."

Why so angry, Claire? Okay, yes. But I'm just thinking that if I walk up to a group of people in a social setting and they are talking about an article I thought I had read in its entirety and someone said something like "I'm astonished that Ting would have said that about her parents!" and I asked "What did she say????" the socially 'correct' way to respond is just well, ANSWERING the question. Not tell them to go look it up and go away and leave us alone and then laugh at them and make fun of them. I think it's rude, frankly.
 
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I just want to say that although I do get your point @ErikWilliam and would agree depending on the situation, @Sylvia is usually not rude and is the one who provides information and help to other posters. I think she posted her statement thinking maybe Jammers saw the word “podcast” and missed the link to the transcript. A lot of people don’t have time to listen to the podcast but are willing to look at a transcript and I can see Sylvia thinking that may be the case.
 
I just want to say that although I do get your point @ErikWilliam and would agree depending on the situation, @Sylvia is usually not rude and is the one who provides information and help to other posters. I think she posted her statement thinking maybe Jammers saw the word “podcast” and missed the link to the transcript. A lot of people don’t have time to listen to the podcast but are willing to look at a transcript and I can see Sylvia thinking that may be the case.
I'm sure it is. I think I actually do know who Sylvia is. I met her at USN in Dallas in 2003 and she was friends with a FB friend who went by Plover or something. I wonder if she's still on here? (Don't answer if you are, PM me on FB!!!!). I think I've even talked to Sylvia on my cell phone giving up to date reports at a Midwesterns in Plano I attended where I saw Rohene Ward for the first time. (Rohene....... such a heartbreak. He was landing 3axels from a standstill and 4toes like they were triples. And then BOMBED the free skate landing maybe two triples.. so sad.). Last time I saw her was at SkateAmerica in Tacoma around 09. Or maybe I'm thinking of a totally different person, who knows. I have an excellent memory, but it isn't perfect. Like I said above, Sylvia obviously does a LOT of work supplying us with articles galore. It is most appreciated. So it kind of is rude to expect Sylvia to answer the question, so she shouldn't be expected to answer in any way at all. Even silence and waiting for someone else to answer is a great way for her to respond to that kind of question. Sylvia's great. She deserves a pass. I didn't notice who said to just go look it up yourself. So I was wrong in that way and not understanding the entire context. My bad. Lets just take this as a "learning opportunity" for the group. Some of us are teachers, but ALL of us are students. We can all learn a thing or two.
 
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This is an article about the Minnesota camp at which Mariah was filmed performing her SP in exhibition on June 18:
Excerpt:
Bell answered campers' questions before doing a meet-and-greet with them. She revealed she thinks her biggest weakness is that she struggles with competition anxiety. She told campers that, aside from normal, healthy eating, she doesn't follow a strict diet. But her training routine is like a full-time job.
She also told campers she has a stuffed Smurf doll as a good luck charm that her past coach would hold for her during competitions. She decided not to ask her current coach to hold it while she skates.
:lol:
 
Asking someone to do the emotional labor of summarizing something you can easily read for yourself is also a choice. :shuffle:
honest question - is reading really emotional labor? I see this term get used a lot and I don't get it.

I will say, my current phone is great, but with past phones, clicking on a link from a message board was a quick way to crashing the OS.
 
I think it's more cognitive labor, not emotional (but it could be emotional if it's about a difficult subject).

In any case, I would hardly expect anyone else to summarize things for me when I have the material right at my fingertips.
Exactly. The transcript/podcast was accessible to all, not behind a paywall. Expecting someone to spend time typing out a summary after they've already made the content available in multiple formats comes across as rude and entitled. If it was locked down, then the request might make sense, if someone has time.

I appreciate that Sylvia and others take the time to post info that I might not otherwise know about. If I can't access something from my phone, I wait until i'm on a desktop.
 
This?
" My parents were very supportive, but Asian culture, they’re not great with mental health related issues. So I would try to talk to them and they would help in the way that they thought they should but in China, these issues are not really a thing that’s talked about."


Or This?
"Ting: I was a mess leading up to that. I was calling everyone, my best friends, my parents, and coaches, crying to them. Like for the entire week leading up to it! And the Tuesday that week leading up to the competition, I had such a bad practice session, like it was absolutely awful just because I was a nervous wreck about it. Natalia is a saint for dealing with it all. When I was telling everyone how nervous I was, especially my parents, they were like, what are you competing at? Are you going to worlds or something? Why are you so nervous?"

I hope that helps. It's kind of obnoxious when you ask a question and someone just tells you to go look it up or go research it yourself. I hope I could at least be helpful and that I answered your question. I at least TRIED to be helpful and was courteous enough to slog through that entire interview to provide you an answer, because I was wondering the same thing. But wouldn't it have been nicer and easier if someone who knew the answer to your question would have just ANSWERED the damn question?

Edited to add that I learned a new word: Orthorexia, Orthorexia nervosa. Which is a proposed mental disorder involving a pre-occupation of only eating healthy foods. I used to be a professor, so I like to learn things and well, TEACH. I'm not that teacher who tells everyone to just go look something up. Those people are failures as teachers, in my opinion.
If you had just waited, someone else might have answered your question. But lots of times, questions to the board don't get answered at all. So you should probably count yourself lucky that Sylvia answered.
 
Typical FSU pile on and pile up. Does everyone have to add their opinion on personal spats? Note that the person who was primarily involved chose not to engage. :saint:
Neither did the other poster involved in the initial exchange. This whole nonsense was started by someone not involved in the interaction, giving their unsolicited (and unpleasant, IMO) opinion of how people should respond to posts on the board. And others responded with their own opinions on board etiquette.

I agree that we should move on and bring the discussion back to U.S. ladies.
 
....I hope that helps. It's kind of obnoxious when you ask a question and someone just tells you to go look it up or go research it yourself. I hope I could at least be helpful and that I answered your question.

Exactly. I’m used to it but still choose to read & even patronize (donate to) this forum. It’s a rude thing to say...”go read it yourself.” The opposite of being helpful.
 
I keep checking this thread thinking there's new news about U.S. ladies but nope. I'd share some myself but I don't have any. I do have a question though- are Amber Glenn and Lindsey Thorngren the only two U.S. ladies putting triple axels in their program run-throughs, or are there other women planning on adding this element in competition soon? I'd heard Alysa Liu is nursing an injury but was she back adding this element? What about in the Juniors?
 
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I keep checking this thread thinking there's new news about U.S. ladies but nope. I'd share some myself but I don't have any. I do have a question though- are Amber Glenn and Lindsey Thornton the only two U.S. ladies putting triple axels in their program run-throughs, or are there other women planning on adding this element in competition soon? I'd heard Alysa Liu is nursing an injury but was she back adding this element? What about in the Juniors?

I think you mean Lindsey Thorngren.
 
Congratulations to our ladies who will be representing the US on the Grand Prix circuit.

Skate America:
• Bradie Tennell
• Amber Glenn
• TBD

Skate Canada:
• Alysa Liu
• Karen Chen

Cup of China:
• Bradie Tennell

NHK Trophy:
• Alysa Liu
• Amber Glenn

Internationaux de France:
• Mariah Bell
• Starr Andrews
• Karen Chen

Rostelecom Cup
• Mariah Bell

As far as I know, Lindsay Thorngren and Amber Glenn have been putting the triple-Axel in their programs. However, Alysa is also training and landing both the triple-Axel and quadruple-Lutz, elements I’m sure will be in her programs. Karen Chen, Bradie Tennell, and Audrey Shin are the other senior ladies whose goal is to incorporate the triple-Axel this season. Karen will be competing today at the Broadmoor Open.

Isabeau Levito, Mia Kalin, and Clare Seo will also be competing in the junior division at Broadmoor Open. Isabeau has a quadruple-Toe while Mia has a quadruple-Toe, quadruple-Salchow, and has shown off a triple-Axel off the ice.
 
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Uggh, I already have tickets to SkAm. Good is Amber will be there. And Nathan. Trusova, Usacheva, Sinitsina all OKAY, but I was hoping either Anna or Kamila or Alyona. Looks like I might either skip SkAm or combine it with Vancouver. At least they have Kamila and Alyona, and Alysa and Karen, and Nathan and Keegan. But then I have to find my passport which is long gone. Uggh, decisions decisions....
 
Congratulations to our ladies who will be representing the US on the Grand Prix circuit.

Skate America:
• Bradie Tennell
• Amber Glenn
• TBD

Skate Canada:
• Alysa Liu
• Karen Chen

Cup of China:
• Bradie Tennell

NHK Trophy:
• Alysa Liu

Internationaux de France:
• Mariah Bell
• Starr Andrews
• Karen Chen

Rostelecom Cup
• Mariah Bell

As far as I know, Lindsay Thorngren and Amber Glenn have been putting the triple-Axel in their programs. However, Alysa is also training and landing both the triple-Axel and quadruple-Lutz, elements I’m sure will be in her programs. Karen Chen, Bradie Tennell, and Audrey Shin are the other senior ladies whose goal is to incorporate the triple-Axel this season. Karen will be competing today at the Broadmoor Open.

Isabeau Levito, Mia Kalin, and Clare Seo will also be competing in the junior division at Broadmoor Open. Isabeau has a quadruple-Toe while Mia has a quadruple-Toe, quadruple-Salchow, and has shown off a triple-Axel off the ice.

Goddess Amber Glenn got two spots, I think you missed her
 
"In her first interview since her #ToyotaUSChamp21 withdrawal due to a positive *********-19 test, Paige Rydberg opens up about what happened & how she's learned from the experience.
She also talks about her programs & goals for the new season" - article by FigureSkatersOnline.com:

ETA that I've posted her music in the Programs/Choreographers thread:
SP: Celine Dion’s cover of Peggy Lee’s “Fever”
FS: “Broken Vessels (Amazing Grace)” by the Australian praise and worship group Hillsong Worship
Choreographer: Ilona Melnichenko

She plans to debut her programs at the Broadmoor Open later this month (Senior Ladies events are June 29-30).
I've posted a summary of yesterday's top results at the Broadmoor Open (no livestreaming this year :() with links to protocols (a first for this comp.!) in the Kiss & Cry section that's currently open to all: https://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/th...-qualifying-competitions.108356/#post-6015814

On Ice Perspectives posted a 30-second clip today of Paige Rydberg spinning (caption says the music is from her FS): https://www.instagram.com/p/CQwNioPHRxh/
 
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