From Russia with Love [#33]: Summer 2019

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Japanfan said:
And running 10 k at the end of the day does seem extreme.
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I remember Tanith Belbin saying Charlie White sometimes used to come home from training and then go running. I think Savchenko did a lot of running too. I suppose it's good for cardio and overall fitness (and it shows in Zabijako because she does look physically fit). From what I understand (when I read an interview with Matt Blackmer after he switched from pairs to dance) is that the pairs training is more high intense and explosive but they don't do as much of it as in other disciplines. So perhaps there is more room for other off ice training.

But I don't know how some of these athletes claim they barely drink water. I imagine they all do gym training and cardio exercises like running etc as well, and that's thirsty work. I wonder if there's a culture of if one of the top skaters say they don't drink water and if they do they swell up everyone else copies. Maybe this is viewed as a sign of dedication.
 
Tinami Amori said:
That's is usually correct, but in case of E.Rodina, it was another (ugly indecent) situation. I don't want to get into that whole story, how she came to doing interview with Gubanova and why she held it, but in short, she was trying to get a gig at one of the Russian media outlets, and then put out her material that she collected. She tried MatchTV, then Sports-Express, they got rid of her very quickly, once they learned of her reputation and "almost criminal behavior".

She finally got a "sports ambassador" blogger status on "sports.ru", but the readers rebelled against her (because of her earlier documented under her name physical threats to skater/coach), and she was terminated. So she had no media outlet to work with, decided not to wait any longer, and published the interview on her video blog.

Yagudin was one of the "readers" who asked Sports.ru management to exclude E.Rodina from the site (because he knew about her behavior, which border-lined "criminal"). Yagudin wrote a letter to sports.ru saying "How can you let this low life trash be part of your publication".

Now E.Rodina has organized a campaign against Yagudin, Tanya and kids. She is openly (on her IG) calling for internet flash-mob to follow Yagudin's sponsors and magazines where he is featured. She directly states to her followers: I propose that we all do a flash-mob against Yagudin"...

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E.Rodina is a sister of Evgeniya Medvedeva's God Mother and best friend of Evgeniya's Mother, Zhanna, since childhood (Olga Rodina). it's a proven fact, nobody is denying it. there are links, and no one is disputing it.
https://cdn.tribuna.com/fetch/?url=https://i.imgur.com/3SowO5h.jpg

Through Medvedeva's family, Rodina got access to top figures in FS, and is manipulating them, especially ones who were upset with Alina's win.
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She is also the one who is instigating "violence" against Zagitova and Eteri (slice her face, splash acid, etc. i've posted links before, can repeat if asked) and organized a group of audience into "stomping and clapping off beat" during last Alina's skate in Moscow (to set her off rhythm).

She admitted to that, and said she is sorry (asking people to let go). She is also running all sorts of fake sites, pretending to be a pro-Zag Med-hater, to rally up Med-fans against Zagitova.

Rodina and some of her sites are being investigated for "hate inducement" and various activities.
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I dont know why but I dont believe anything of what you are writing lol. I think you are pretty similar of what you described of being this Elena Rodina but for Eteri and Zagitova side.
 
Mad for Skating said:
Thank you for the translation. I don’t see anything offensive in here - she sounds like a normal girl who’s frustrated that she has talent but doesn’t get much support from the Fed. IMO, she is actually close to the level of many top Russian ladies skaters.
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She is on the same level, beat both Tuk and Med last season at a Russian cup competition (should have won the comp) and IMHO, should have gone to Jr Worlds instead of Konstantinova. But, the Fed chose differently. She has a point and no doubt has been frustrated many times. There's always more to skating than just skating.
 
I am beginning to feel that Alina needs to make a public statements to her fans to calm down and stop being awful to skaters or commentators or anyone that speaks an opinion that doesn’t always say her praises. This witch hunt is not necessary.
 
Frau Muller said:
Actually, this is a lovely moody film. It piques my interest to see the full program, with costume. Zag has grown into a truly beautiful skater, hasn’t she?
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She definitely did, but some of her fans became so fanatical that I find it off-putting. It really prevents me from enjoying watching her. I see her picture or her skating, and my first thought isn’t how much she improved her presentation and what beautiful skater she has turned into; my first though is ‘oh, God, here they come again...’
 
hanca said:
She definitely did, but some of her fans became so fanatical that I find it off-putting. It really prevents me from enjoying watching her. I see her picture or her skating, and my first thought isn’t how much she improved her presentation and what beautiful skater she has turned into; my first though is ‘oh, God, here they come again...’
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"They"? I know there is one person here who you probably refer to, but who else? I am Zagitova's big fan, I hope I am not off-putting.. :slinkaway
 
Frau Muller said:
Actually, this is a lovely moody film. It piques my interest to see the full program, with costume. Zag has grown into a truly beautiful skater, hasn’t she?
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She has :) This is the dress for the new SP that she skated at the Ice show today: https://www.instagram.com/p/B0aRlMiIyZZ/
I don;t know if that's the final version, or just for the show, but I love it.
 
I could see why Zagitova's fans would be unusually defensive, I remember when I preferred Lipinski to Kwan and some of the nastiness toward her for simply doing her best and beating a favorite (disappointment is certainly understandable in that situation but there was some pretty hardcore cruelty in the way she was talked about) was really upsetting and with Zagitova it sounds like there is some possible racism thrown in to make it even worse and the insane intensity of the social media era. However, it's one thing to defend a skater you like and another thing to go on the attack - it's an important distinction to maintain.
 
babayaga said:
"They"? I know there is one person here who you probably refer to, but who else? I am Zagitova's big fan, I hope I am not off-putting.. :slinkaway
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No, you are not off-putting. I did say SOME of her fans, not all of them.
 
I'm just interested to see how this fan fervour will interact with the inevitable cycling of the Russian ladies. Will everyone just move onto the next new thing?

However Olympic Gold Medalists can have very special places in fans' hearts - particularly if they only discovered the sport watching the Olympics.
 
Finsta said:
I am beginning to feel that Alina needs to make a public statements to her fans to calm down and stop being awful to skaters or commentators or anyone that speaks an opinion that doesn’t always say her praises. This witch hunt is not necessary.
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They mentioned about how Gubanova was raised and Alina won't say like this because she was raised better.
Also giving mistranslated info to Non-Russian speakers that Gubanova said Trusova and Scherbakova will break their backs.They made Non-Russian speakers to believe Gubanova is arrogant, jealous evil who always thinks she was underscored.
 
Finsta said:
I am beginning to feel that Alina needs to make a public statements to her fans to calm down and stop being awful to skaters or commentators or anyone that speaks an opinion that doesn’t always say her praises. This witch hunt is not necessary.
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This is an very bias logic.
  • Alina and Eteri and their whole team consequently are the ones who are getting physical threats, hate speeches and rallies organized against them, and Alina needs to tell her fans to come down?
  • The hate against Alina started the day she won Olympics (there were no issues with Medvedeva's changes at that time and none of the fans were "against her").
  • Alina has done nothing wrong by winning Olympics, and said nothing wrong this whole time, from the day of the Olympics to this very day.

- Elena Rodina is Medvedeva's fan and related to her family, she is organizing rallies and hate activities. It's a fact regardless if people believe it or not.

It is Medvedeva who needs to tell her fans and "interested parties" to stop attacking Alina and her team. It's Rodina who is now under the investigation for "hate actions", under her "medvedeva" fan site.

The original "hate" started with Medvedeva's fans and "interested parties" not accepting Alina's win.
 
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Tinami Amori said:
This is an very bias logic.
  • Alina and Eteri and their whole team consequently are the ones who are getting physical threats, hate speeches and rallies organized against them, and Alina needs to tell her fans to come down?
  • The hate against Alina started the day she won Olympics. She's done nothing wrong, and said nothing wrong this whole time, from the day of the Olympics to this very day.

- Elena Rodina is Medvedeva's fan and related to her family, she is organizing rallies and hate activities. It's a fact regardless if people believe it or not.

It is Medvedeva who needs to tell her fans and "interested parties" to stop attacking Alina and her team. It's Rodina who is now under the investigation for "hate actions", under her "medvedeva" fan site.

The original "hate" started with Medvedeva's fans and "interested parties" not accepting Alina's win.
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The hate, or perceived hate, is within Russia. The links you have included were from Russians sources. I can’t see anyone here pouring hate on her, and yet you keep constantly making various remarks making her the victim, and her competitors the villains. Maybe you should use your energy fighting against the hate on the places that the hate is actually expressed, rather than somewhere where there is none? Thanks to you, I can’t stand the poor girl now. You are turning people off her.
 
hanca said:
I can’t see anyone here pouring hate on her
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you don't see a lot of things, that are right there.... :lol: in-ten-tion-a-ly... and don't expect me to jump out of my skin to try to prove you wrong... The facts of threats against Alina and Eteri are starting to be documented with Russian Police and that's all that matters.... ;)
 
Michalle said:
I could see why Zagitova's fans would be unusually defensive, I remember when I preferred Lipinski to Kwan and some of the nastiness toward her for simply doing her best and beating a favorite (disappointment is certainly understandable in that situation but there was some pretty hardcore cruelty in the way she was talked about) was really upsetting and with Zagitova it sounds like there is some possible racism thrown in to make it even worse and the insane intensity of the social media era. However, it's one thing to defend a skater you like and another thing to go on the attack - it's an important distinction to maintain.
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Racism? Please explain...Asians vs Caucasians???
 
hanca said:
Maybe, but you see a lot of things that are not here!
Which makes me blind and you having hallucinations.
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what's in writing, recorded, documented, and submitted as evidence... are there... ;)
and now you can have a last word.

Frau Muller said:
Racism? Please explain...Asians vs Caucasians???
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... will try... in a most politically correct form, when the "ethnic issue" came up (not too often) - it's Alina's "Tatar back ground" and that she is culturally a "muslim". Rodina posted in her IG "Tatars are like mad Chechens, you have to watch out for them"... and etc... and "anti-Alina" crowd picked it up, and went with it... "tatars are sneaky, they are cheats, they'll stab you in the back". (and other, but it is very UN-PC).
 
hanca said:
Maybe you should use your energy fighting against the hate on the places that the hate is actually expressed, rather than somewhere where there is none? Thanks to you, I can’t stand the poor girl now. You are turning people off her.
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You can't stand a skater because of her fans? :confused:
 
muffinplus said:
You can't stand a skater because of her fans? :confused:
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Yes. It just brings bad feelings watching her skate, because I keep waiting for the idiots to come out of their holes and start spewing the sh*t. I know it is not her fault, but it is not my fault how I feel either.
 
Junior Test Skates 2019 on Russia Channel 1. link to site, can be seen with VPN outside of Russia.
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Link to the page on the Rus Fed's site, with schedule for Ice Dance (in Russian, but you can see the dates).
the rest of the schedules will be posted later.

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From most reporting all drama started from coach Eteris very public outbursts after medvedeva made her decision to switch coach. She wanted a war and it forced fans to pick sides. She even held grudges on Orser and it seems some Russians decided he is enemy. The reality is both medvedeva and Alina are amazingly talent and nice girls. One scored a higher short program at Olympics. If memory serves correctly they tied for the FS- even with Alina having the more difficult, backloaded program. It seems a victory for both. And for Russia. When one chose to move to a coach to help her get to next level it should’ve been accepted instead but of a public outcry from previous coach- which is all documented.

All this is water under bridge and the coach, media and fans should move on. The girls, who by all insider reports, get along good and hang out when on tours and shows. Gossip boards are just gossip. The girls are fine
 
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