Downton Abbey Season 6 - PBS broadcast

The most recent episode... I still miss Sybil and it just goes to show that Sybil was forward thinking and knew the signs of the time before everyone else did. No one "upstairs" noticed Gwen(the housemade) when she worked for them except Sybil :)
 
So the previews for the next week show Mary being concerned about the risks the race car drivers take. It would not surprise me if she ends up being impressed with him because he's adept at driving while her last husband died in a car accident. That seems a very Lady Mary reaction to something that, for a while, defeated her.

ETA: Oh, and if Robert's recurring indigestion doesn't end up as some kind of serious medical issue that can only be solved by having the modern treatments from York very close by, I will make naked snow angels.

And there was some really excellent dialogue in episode 4. My favorites where:

When complimented for saying something nice about Lady Edith, Lady Mary says, "Even a monkey could type out the bible if you leave it long enough."

Then there was the Dowager's whole conversation about Mary needing more than a handsome smile and a hand on the gear shift.
 
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Coco said:
ETA: Oh, and if Robert's recurring indigestion doesn't end up as some kind of serious medical issue that can only be solved by having the modern treatments from York very close by, I will make naked snow angels.
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That's a pretty safe bet. Fellowes is anything but subtle with his plot hints. (However I'm kind of wishing you're wrong, just so that there will be naked snow angels. :D)

I'm also assuming it will be his ulcer. These days it's rare to have to have surgery for an ulcer, but I don't know what the standard of care was back in 1926.
 
Artemis@BC said:
That's a pretty safe bet. Fellowes is anything but subtle with his plot hints. (However I'm kind of wishing you're wrong, just so that there will be naked snow angels. :D)

I'm also assuming it will be his ulcer. These days it's rare to have to have surgery for an ulcer, but I don't know what the standard of care was back in 1926.
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If it isn't something truly dire, my diagnosis is it's his gall bladder, but I'm not willing to bet a naked snow angel on that. :lol:
 
Given the hints my first thought was: They better not have him killed by this, as a way to end the series!!

I'm sure it will be tied into the hospital plot though. I wonder what the position will be - When Sybil died, the 'expert' from London was used, but in the end Dr. Clarkson was the one who was right.

I wonder if it will tie in with Anna's issue as well - I assume she will need to go to London to deliver so the doc can take out the stitches? And that she doesn't want to talk about it, I assume in 1926 women wouldn't tell their husbands of 'female' issues like that. (btw on wikipedia 'cervical incompetence' is said to refer to the cervix dilating too early, but painless, in the 2nd and 3rd trimester. Anna is in 1st trimester, but diagnosed as such? And she was clearly in pain. Artistic license?)
 
There is a whole lot of artistic license in Anna's storyline. I mean she supposedly had a couple of late first trimester or early second trimester miscarriages and never missed even an hour of work and Bates never had a clue.

Me no think so....... :duh:
 
Well, everyone who saw the Earl's illness illuminating the hospital storyline got that right. Danker & Spratt are definitely the comic relief, and now we know that Mary was clueless about Marigold. Mary does not, shall we say, have a very high EQ but her sisterly relationship with Tom is so nice. They'd better not screw it up with a romance.

And omg Daisy is annoying. If Mr. Mason is destined to find love, not to mention good cooking, with Mrs. Patmore, just lay off little girl. Go teach Andy to read or something.
 
Daisy continues to annoy. And Denker is completely useless.

Man, Robert's attack was really graphic.
 
The first part of the attack reminded me of the scene in the original Alien movie - that would have been a twist having something burst from his chest.

Does anyone really care about the Baxter storyline? It just doesn't add anything to the show for me. I use to like Mosley but I find him annoying now as well.

I have been rewatching the old episodes finished Season 1 ("What is a weekend?" priceless :)) and am in Season 2 - the show use to be so much better and besides Matthew I really miss O'Brien of all people.
 
PRlady said:
Well, everyone who saw the Earl's illness illuminating the hospital storyline got that right.
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My diagnosis was wrong, but @Artemis@BC was right on target.
And omg Daisy is annoying. If Mr. Mason is destined to find love, not to mention good cooking, with Mrs. Patmore, just lay off little girl. Go teach Andy to read or something.
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My PBS reception was in and out every 2-3 minutes, but I did manage to catch enough of Daisy to agree that she was completely annoying! I also saw the entirety of Robert's bloody awful ruptured ulcer. :yikes: :scream:

What I'm surprised nobody has mentioned yet is Edith's completely awesome jeweled "headband of power" :glamor: for her evening out on the town. :respec:
 
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These days it's rare to have to have surgery for an ulcer, but I don't know what the standard of care was back in 1926.
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Surgery was common.
It wasn't known that many ulcers are caused by bacteria; and at the time, antibiotics to treat such infections didn't exist.
 
PRlady said:
Yeah there was that. I'm squeamish and didn't look away fast enough. :yikes:
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Same here on both counts :scream:

I thought the mention of Marigold between the Dowager and Cora seemed kind of shoe-horned in at a very random place just so Mary could hear it. I thought her reaction and the way she went about asking Anna seemed unusually subtle for Mary, but I suppose with the shock of Robert's illness and surgery, she's not quite herself at the moment. I have a small hope that this means a return to Season 2 Mary, who was a more nuanced character and kicked ass, but I'm not holding my breath on that one.
 
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Surgery was common.
It wasn't known that many ulcers are caused by bacteria; and at the time, antibiotics to treat such infections didn't exist.
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Also once it's perforated that badly you've got immediate problems anyway. Minor bleeding looks like coffee grounds. Blood that bright you have acute issues.

The official hashtag of Downton season 6 should be #ShutUpDaisy.
 
skatesindreams said:
Surgery was common.
It wasn't known that many ulcers are caused by bacteria; and at the time, antibiotics to treat such infections didn't exist.
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I know zilch about medicine, but i remember my grandfather's life-changing "child hood illness story" (in 1919) and he mentioned antibiotic called "pycyianeus".

I feel bad for Sir Robert, he loves his drinks after dinner.... :D
 
I might have gotten the ulcer right but I certainly didn't predict that -- projectile blood-vomiting in the Downton dining room! And in front of future-PM Chamberlain no less!

Still, I'm glad that particular storyline came to a head and we don't have to endure another 3 weeks of Robert clutching his stomach in pain. Interesting though that they didn't even mention which hospital he went to. Is the local hospital equipped for that kind of surgery, or did he go to York? No doubt we'll hear more in the coming weeks and it will affect the hospital fight.

And now Mary finally knows something is up with Marigold. If she didn't have such a low opinion of Edith's ability to, well, have a life, she would have put two and two together long ago. And she still hasn't really figured things out. Not that it really matters much of course, I doubt she'd be all "keep that bastard child away from my darling George," but it will be interesting to see how it plays out. It's even possible it might make her think a little better of Edith. And in the same week as her cutting "of course it's not a date" comment.

Mary has matured in so many ways, I'd like to see her mature in her relationship with Edith.

And in lighter fare: the dining adventures of Carson and Mrs Hughes were pretty funny. (Though I hated Mr Carson's attitude, I do agree that bubble & squeak is not really a good veg accompaniment for lamb chops!)

And yes, Daisy is a total pill. Her jealous, immature behaviour might have been explained 10 years ago, but she's far too old for that now.
 
It shall be very interesting to see how Queen Mary utilizes the information she just discovered about Marigold......:eek: She looked pretty shocked about it.
 
I'm not entirely sure Mary will be kind about this new nugget of info.
 
Mary confuses me. She didn't want Lord Gillingham for more than a fling even though he was the most eligible aristocrat out there. She doesn't want this new dude because she thinks he is not worthy of her. She tells Tom "she won't marry down."

What the heck does she want? Does she even know? Lol!

I'm happy to see Edith get a little action. :grope: :40beers:
 
jadingirl said:
T Does anyone really care about the Baxter storyline? It just doesn't add anything to the show for me. I use to like Mosley but I find him annoying now as well.

I have been rewatching the old episodes finished Season 1 ("What is a weekend?" priceless :)) and am in Season 2 - the show use to be so much better and besides Matthew I really miss O'Brien of all people.
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I don't think anyone cares about Baxter. It's just filler IMO. It's hard to end a series well, on the right note. The Edith and Carson/Hughes storylines are interesting, but Baxter, Mr. Mason, and Mosley - not so much. The Barrow storyline has become tiresome IMO, and Daisy getting educated is of limited interest, especially since she isn't doing anything with it.

In any case, I'm still sad that the series is coming to a close and will probably watch it in its entirety when I find the time.
 
jadingirl said:
I have been rewatching the old episodes finished Season 1 ("What is a weekend?" priceless :)) and am in Season 2 - the show use to be so much better and besides Matthew I really miss O'Brien of all people.
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I miss O'Brien too. They really haven't had a great villain on the show since she left.
 
I like seeing Tom back. He's a breath of fresh air. He seems comfortable with who he is and has probably taken to the changes in culture better than any of them. He's a good friend for Mary and I suspect he will be a moderating influence if (when) she tries to get nasty with Edith again.
 
jadingirl said:
The first part of the attack reminded me of the scene in the original Alien movie - that would have been a twist having something burst from his chest.

Does anyone really care about the Baxter storyline? It just doesn't add anything to the show for me. I use to like Mosley but I find him annoying now as well.

I have been rewatching the old episodes finished Season 1 ("What is a weekend?" priceless :)) and am in Season 2 - the show use to be so much better and besides Matthew I really miss O'Brien of all people.
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That's exactly what my husband said when it happened "oh so he has an Alien in him; that explains that." :rollin:

Agree Baxter is a bore - I like her enough and she's important for Barrow, but these court dramas are so Bates-two-seasons-ago. Thought it was funny when Carson quipped "do other houses have the constable visiting so often?" Maybe that's finally the end of all that.

And I miss O'Brien too :(

Artemis@BC said:
Still, I'm glad that particular storyline came to a head and we don't have to endure another 3 weeks of Robert clutching his stomach in pain. Interesting though that they didn't even mention which hospital he went to. Is the local hospital equipped for that kind of surgery, or did he go to York? No doubt we'll hear more in the coming weeks and it will affect the hospital fight.
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I'm pretty sure the ambulance said Yorkshire, and it seemed rather modern and fancy for the local hospital, but I could be wrong.

The one thing that surprised me in that SL is Bates - he seemed pretty laid back considering he's the personal valet of Robert and they are old war buddies. Everyone else was springing into action and he says "I'll check if they need anything in the morning." ??

And in lighter fare: the dining adventures of Carson and Mrs Hughes were pretty funny. (Though I hated Mr Carson's attitude, I do agree that bubble & squeak is not really a good veg accompaniment for lamb chops!)
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In some ways I think they are overcariacturizing (is that a word? :lol:) these two, but I did like the part when Carson couldn't help but polish his own silver.
 
Erin said:
I thought the mention of Marigold between the Dowager and Cora seemed kind of shoe-horned in at a very random place just so Mary could hear it. I thought her reaction and the way she went about asking Anna seemed unusually subtle for Mary, but I suppose with the shock of Robert's illness and surgery, she's not quite herself at the moment. I have a small hope that this means a return to Season 2 Mary, who was a more nuanced character and kicked ass, but I'm not holding my breath on that one.
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Agree it was shoehorned in. They could have made it a lot more subtle over time with Mary putting it together, but I guess they are running out of time and has to use the classic "overheard a secret" plot device.

I did think the way she asked Anna was spot on though. Two things: one is that for Mary there's a big difference between gossip about servants and gossip about the family - her instinct would be not to reveal a family secret but rather fish around to see what they might now. Second is that she has the feeling everyone knows something she doesn't, and doesn't want to reveal that, so she tried to make it sounds like she already knows whatever it is and was only curious if the servants knew.

In the end I think she will embrace Marigold (she pretty much has to for the Big Happy Ending I'm sure is coming) especially as the family (Mary more so when reminded of her father's mortality) now realizes how important the future generation is - all three of them.

Other random thoughts:

Would have made more sense for Andy to confide in Moseley, but they needed to mend this bridge they created between him and Barrow, so there you go.

Has Cora's character evolved at all? I'm rather tired of her soft-voice batting of eyelashes in respond to everything.

Fun to find out that Edith is 33 years old, no? Have I got that right? Also LOVE LOVE LOVE her style and that's she's :grope: but she needs to get rid of half the furniture in that overcrowded apartment. That was also a helluva martini - exceptionally modern ways, or a mistake by the prop department?

Love Sprat!!
 
Artemis@BC said:
I might have gotten the ulcer right but I certainly didn't predict that -- projectile blood-vomiting in the Downton dining room! And in front of future-PM Chamberlain no less!

Still, I'm glad that particular storyline came to a head and we don't have to endure another 3 weeks of Robert clutching his stomach in pain. Interesting though that they didn't even mention which hospital he went to. Is the local hospital equipped for that kind of surgery, or did he go to York? No doubt we'll hear more in the coming weeks and it will affect the hospital fight.
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I was pretty surprised too! I am glad I had already finished the cake I was eating... I was also surprised at the composure of everyone. I am pretty sure if someone, let alone my husband, projectile vomited blood all over I would be freaking out with high pitched hysterical screams.

I am happy Mary is finding out about Marygold, finally. I just wished Edith would have told her. I hope Mary doesn't do anything bad with the information.
Edith looked glowing on her date :)

Why is everyone not all over Tom to marry again?


Daisy. She still acts like she is 16, or what she was in the first season. Seriously. Clueless, immature, and I am just over her. She was so cute in the whole love triangle thing, though she clearly rushed in too. But she was young. Now she is old enough, and so annoying.

Sprat is wonderful.

I like the relationship between Dexter and Moseley, but I looks like they are pairing everyone up for the end of the series. How many weddings can one season handle? Though I secretly hope Mrs. Patmore and Mr. Mason lives in sin.
 
Japanfan said:
I don't think anyone cares about Baxter. It's just filler IMO. It's hard to end a series well, on the right note. The Edith and Carson/Hughes storylines are interesting, but Baxter, Mr. Mason, and Mosley - not so much. The Barrow storyline has become tiresome IMO, and Daisy getting educated is of limited interest, especially since she isn't doing anything with it.

In any case, I'm still sad that the series is coming to a close and will probably watch it in its entirety when I find the time.
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See, I never cared about the Mrs Hughes/Carson thing. I found the whole notion of them getting married rather contrived. Have no problem believing they'd have a terrible time getting used to living together.

Daisy...oy. Less history, more basic skills. She's not really getting educated, she's learning facts but she's never learned the logical reasoning skills to know what to do with them. #ShutUpDaisy
 
danceronice said:
I never cared about the Mrs Hughes/Carson thing. I found the whole notion of them getting married rather contrived.
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Such relationships were not uncommon.
My paternal grandparents met while employed, similarly.

How were people who spent their lives "in service" supposed to meet others?
 
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