Canadian Pairs 2018/2019 Season News and Updates

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So with the break up of Seguin/Bilodeau, I have the following senior pairs for Canada:

Moore-Towers & Marinaro
Ruest & Wolfe
Walsh & Michaud
Brasseur & Bardei
Matte & Ferland
McCaw & Adcock

Anyone else?


Julianne Seguin, Charlie Bilodeau, Max Deschamps and Frank Boudreau-Audet seem to currently not be in a partnership. Anyone else still looking?
 
Whatever happened to Bryn Hoffman? I thought after she and Bryce Chudak split that she was looking for a partner. But we haven't see her since.
 
So with the break up of Seguin/Bilodeau, I have the following senior pairs for Canada:

Moore-Towers & Marinaro
Ruest & Wolfe
Walsh & Michaud
Brasseur & Bardei
Matte & Ferland
McCaw & Adcock

Anyone else?


Julianne Seguin, Charlie Bilodeau, Max Deschamps and Frank Boudreau-Audet seem to currently not be in a partnership. Anyone else still looking?
I wonder if juniors like Ostiguy & Choinard will re-evaluate and move up?
 
Amazing to see how our once "deep" field of Pairs is now pretty shallow. We have one team that is top 15-20 in the world material. *yikes*.
 
I was at skate Detroit very briefly. Walsh fell on a <<3t, but landed a nice throw 3loop. The style of the program suits him a lot more than her, but it will be nice once skate can rolls around
I think that Walsh may not be the right partner for Michaud! What about Seguin?
 
I think that Walsh may not be the right partner for Michaud! What about Seguin?
Walsh is one of the top junior women single skaters in Canada. She is very consistent in competition. They just started training for this yr. he has been traveling around with his girlfriend and I am not sure about her. It is beginning of season..I think she is competing next week again.
 
Evelyn Walsh/Trennt Michaud debuted their SP to the Beatles' "Come Together" by Gary Clark Jr. at Skate Detroit this past Friday (55.01, 4th place). They did a triple twist, she fell on the sbs 3T and landed a good throw 3Lo. Walsh also skated Junior singles in Detroit and made the final round, attempting triples through loop. She has an India-themed SP and her FS is to "Papa can you hear me" (instrumental & Streisand).

Re-posting @blue_idealist's question here:
I wonder if Natasha Purich is still seeking a partner.
Purich suffered a "severely smashed patella" [left kneecap] (her words on Instagram) and underwent surgery back in early March. She is currently rehabbing (Pilates focus).

ETA:

Patricia Andrew & Paxton Fletcher were the only junior pair team at Skate Detroit. They scored 48.58 in the 2nd place SP to "Step in Time" (Mary Poppins) and 80.50 in their 2nd place FS to Pirates of the Caribbean. They had a scary fall on the 3twist in their FS (both fell but she didn't hit her head on the ice, fortunately), landed sbs 2A and both throw doubles (Salchow & flip).
 
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Walsh is one of the top junior women single skaters in Canada. She is very consistent in competition. They just started training for this yr. he has been traveling around with his girlfriend and I am not sure about her. It is beginning of season..I think she is competing next week again.

I really like Walsh and Michaud but as a team I don't think they have that "it" factor. There isn't much of a height difference so I think that impacts upon many of their elements.
 
I'm glad W/M have music that plays to him. He's for now the star of the team although she's holding her own fairly well in the discpline. Their music last year was so syrupy it was hard to watch. They are in it for the world team right now with Ruest and Wolfe so let's see what happens.

Did not know about Purich. That. Sounds. AWFUL.

I would have had Charlie with Brasseur but it looks like the Bardei partnership is truly happening. I think we should see how that goes.

I hope this year Charlie and Boudreau-Audet find partners. No idea who they would be but i'm sure SC and Quebec section are on it. No way that kind of talent is going to waste with the thin field in Canada.

I have pencilled Seguin in with Deschamps. I can just see it, so I'm not entertaining anything else until somehow that becomes an impossibility :p
 
I really like Walsh and Michaud but as a team I don't think they have that "it" factor. There isn't much of a height difference so I think that impacts upon many of their elements.

To me, W/M were a good junior team but I don't see them having much success in seniors. I think they're both strong pairs skaters but not a particularly good match together.

They could surprise me, though. It'll be interesting to see if they manage to reinvent themselves as seniors.
 
I was wondering when the huge drop in Canadian pairs team numbers happened and it seems it was between 2012 and 2013.
Up to and including 2012 we were consistently at about 10-12 entries in pairs at Canadians - 2012 had twelve senior pairs teams competing. All of a sudden, in 2013, there were just SIX TEAMS!! We've been hovering at around 7-8 teams since.
WTF happened that year?
 
Amazing to see how our once "deep" field of Pairs is now pretty shallow. We have one team that is top 15-20 in the world material. *yikes*.

RUS- Zabijako, Tarasova, Boikova
GER- Hocke, Hase (SB 35)
FRA- James, Esbrat? (SB 40)
ITA- DMG, ?
CAN- MTM, Ruest (SB 33) or Walsh (SB 42)
CHN- Sui, Yu or Peng

USA- whoever
PRK- Ryom
AUS- A/Windsor
AUT- Ziegler (SB 24)

This is who I am looking at to be top 16 at 2019 Worlds. So at this point they are top 15 material. Maybe not last year.

Grouping them in relative placement guesses...

1-4 Sui, Tarasova, James, Zabijako
5-8 CHN2, MTM, DMG, USA
9-12 A/W, Boikova, Ryom, Hocke
13-16 - Hase, Esbrat, CAN, Ziegler
 
In the Seguin/Bilodeau split thread, there have been some unwarranted swipes against Kirsten. I've enjoyed K&M's progress as a team. And I think the aesthetic snobbery against Kirsten is just that. Kirsten has definitely improved in terms of her presentation and aesthetic qualities under Gauthier/Marcotte, and with choreo by Julie Marcotte. Michael is coming along with his partnering skills, and they seem to be developing a good connection with each other on and off the ice.

I really enjoyed Seguin/Bilodeau too, but they've split (and before they split), somehow M-T/M had been eclipsing them in terms of overall results. I think a lot of S/B's slowed momentum had to do with injuries and lack of training time. Apparently Charlie was worried about their overall progress, and he clearly felt they were no longer clicking on all cylinders together. In the long run, hopefully it will work out for them both with new partners. And if they find good partners, it may be a boon for Canadian pairs.

As for the continued sniping about Kirsten, it's unwarranted IMO. At the rate Kirsten & Michael have improved against the odds since they partnered amidst sneering opposition, I don't see any reason why they need to set their sights low. The fact that some fans still seem to have an undigestible beef with them and/or their skating, is constipation for those fans to suffer. Others who have an appetite for good skating and this increasingly strong partnership, can share in the delectable delights K&M and their coaching team have in store for us. :)

I think ultimately S/B wow factor is their connection/packaging/choreo. They need to maximize this every year while they work to squeeze every tech mark out that they can. Look for a sbs 3L or 3Z and a 3 jump combo this year. Book it. So they'll have that.

S/B have this ability to break down walls between each other and between them and the audience that few pairs can do in the world. When they skate at their best you feel you know them and you certainly like them as well. They need to capitalize on that and pick the right music that builds these connections.

IMHO MT/M have this potential as well but it depends on who packages and choreographs them. We saw a smidge of their ability to connect in their short this year. Their long was beautiful and I'm a fan, but it's something you look at and appreciate vs being drawn into their personality and souls.

I see these two pairs like rooms that have been immaculately decorated by a renowned interior designer. MT/M represent a room you want to take a picture of and put in a magazine. S/B represent a room you want to run into and jump on or soak into the furniture and hang out for awhile.

I have thoroughly enjoyed both these teams. Apparently, S/B peaked and so the appealing furniture and their comforting hospitality wore out rather quickly. ;) At their best, S/B had a magical chemistry. But their problems off the ice in recent years apparently adversely affected their progress and unity. Unfortunately, they've been unable to overcome the challenges they've faced to come out on the other side intact.

Your interior design analogy was so interesting that I had wanted to respond to you earlier but I never got around to it. In view of S/B's split, it's kind of anti-climactic now.

Personally, I have definitely been drawn into K&M's recent fp choreographed by Julie Marcotte. I like how it grew stronger for them in their second season exploring it. I think it's been a breakthrough program for them that has garnered good marks from judges. They've shown full commitment to their material, and the program was always a joy to watch. K&M definitely seem like skaters and people I'd enjoy hanging out with. :cheer2: Add to that, the fact of their believing in each other and in themselves to the point where they've stayed the course against many obstacles and have thus far been able to flourish.
 
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Amazing to see how our once "deep" field of Pairs is now pretty shallow. We have one team that is top 15-20 in the world material. *yikes*.

I'm not all that worried. Things can change really quickly.

-We have W/M and R/W who I see progressing
-If Charlie and Julianne repartner with someone decent they can be competitive in not a lot of time
-Brasseur/Bardei - let's see them at Quebec champs. Buzz from those connected to the rink is all positive right now
-Some talent percolating at the lower levels
-Deschamps, Boudreau-Audet, Purich all capable and floating out there, waiting to partner and/or get healthy
-Lubov may dial back in after spending a season making some money

There are many quality pieces in the system; it's just a matter of putting them together. I don't think it will take long.
 
I'm not all that worried. Things can change really quickly.

-We have W/M and R/W who I see progressing
-If Charlie and Julianne repartner with someone decent they can be competitive in not a lot of time
-Brasseur/Bardei - let's see them at Quebec champs. Buzz from those connected to the rink is all positive right now
-Some talent percolating at the lower levels
-Deschamps, Boudreau-Audet, Purich all capable and floating out there, waiting to partner and/or get healthy
-Lubov may dial back in after spending a season making some money

There are many quality pieces in the system; it's just a matter of putting them together. I don't think it will take long.
Really agree with you. There are quite a few great teams out there even in junior. Lots to look forward to and even a few junior teams who could consider moving senior soon.
 
The problem with a lot of turnover and little depth is that it takes a while to get back extra spots, and then there is the frustration of teams who would normally be fighting for the second or third experience spot to build a reputation and climb the ranks.

After the initial scrum to fill the void is a lot of frustration.
 
The problem with a lot of turnover and little depth is that it takes a while to get back extra spots, and then there is the frustration of teams who would normally be fighting for the second or third experience spot to build a reputation and climb the ranks.

After the initial scrum to fill the void is a lot of frustration.
Well sure, but imo 4CC helps a lot. We have a guaranteed 3 spots their every year, so even if the worlds spots drop there is ISU championship experience available. Also, we currently have 2 Worlds spots and maintaining that is very doable - not guaranteed of course, but also not a stretch. 3 4CC spots and 2 Worlds spots really isn't bad.
 
Plus, for the entries without a ton of experience, there are a healthy number of slots in the B events. I see Skate Canada doing a decent job of trying to fill those. Heck even for Autumn Classic, SC digs fairly deep to fill slots such that the real newbs can get their feet wet in front of international judges and in many cases have a shot at hitting the world TES threshold.

And I agree -- we've been spoiled by a number of disciplines with 3 qualified entries but I think 2 is the standard we should be aiming for in every discipline. 3 is a bonus.
 
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