2024-25 Pairs General Discussion - Who Wants to Skate Forever (in Junior Pairs)?

[Karen-W]

Do the feds have to name what pairs they are sending by September? I thought that wasn't decided until later.

Oh, I thought you were talking about the feds that have earned spots.

 

[BrightSkates]

Mila-no way.......... (someone finish it)

 

[Cpomfan]

E/M are going to WTT! They will actually now have money to afford invisible mesh

 

[farahfan]

E/M are going to WTT! They will actually now have money to afford invisible mesh

haha. so according to the rulebook Chan Howe should have gone for having the higher world standing, but feds can decide to substitute in someone else?

 

[tangerine dream]

haha. so according to the rulebook Chan Howe should have gone for having the higher world standing, but feds can decide to substitute in someone else?

I can't find the document, does it specify overall world rankings vs season rankings? EfiMit are much higher on the season rankings (1814pts to 794). Chan/Howe are only ahead overall because they have three seasons of results while EfiMit have only one.

https://results.isu.org/ws/wr2024-25/wrpairs.htm

 

[Karen-W]

haha. so according to the rulebook Chan Howe should have gone for having the higher world standing, but feds can decide to substitute in someone else?

I can't find the document, does it specify overall world rankings vs season rankings? EfiMit are much higher on the season rankings (1814pts to 794). Chan/Howe are only ahead overall because they have three seasons of results while EfiMit have only one.

https://results.isu.org/ws/wr2024-25/wrpairs.htm

Basically, the feds are pretty much allowed to send whomever they want. According to the WS Pulkinen should have gone over Brown, and according to the WR Sanchez should have gone over Brown. For Italy - according to the WS Rizzo should have gone instead of Grassl, but according to the WR Rizzo should have been selected instead of Memola.

 

[kwanfan1818]

I'm pretty sure the rules were set up when WTT was created so that the made-for-TV competition wasn't blown off by the strongest competitors. The first was held in 2009 and -- please correct me if I'm wrong -- the number of post-season tours in Japan wasn't as high as it is now or as lucrative. The ISU hadn't cut the prize money earned in GP's and possibly championships yet, and I don't remember the number of SOI dates being as low; 2009 was right after the merger with Champions on Ice.

Also, like the first Olympics Team Event, I'm sure when WTT started that the skaters needed to be convinced they would have a blast, and it would be worth the interruption. Skaters had their post-Worlds routines set -- vacations, getting new choreography, getting their heads out of their current choreography, healing injuries, getting ready for tours -- and there was no guarantee WTT would be nothing but a good deed gone punished.

It's who the crowds will enjoy, and performing at Worlds is in most fans' minds. Kvitelashvilli was invited to Japanese tours, so his inclusion will be a treat.

 

[Karen-W]

Cross-posting from the Finnish news thread...

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[Andrea82]

Looks like Dutch Olympic Commitee has set a minimum score they are asking to Danilova/Tsiba.

https://cdn.nocnsf.nl/media/zm1ftror/kwalificatiedocument-os-milano-cortina-2026-kunstschaatsen-v1.pdf

It is the average of the scores of places 10th to 18th at Worlds. So 173.89 points. It is doable for them (unlike the scores asked by Swedish Olympic Committee), they have scored it in the past. However, it is not a score they can do at every occasion.
It seems such score should be achieved in one of two pre-determined competitions if I translated it correctly. The issue for them can be that they can get it but not necessarily in one of those 2 competitions. In such a case, I hope the Dutch Olympic Committee won't be merciless.

I don't remember if they asked for a minimum score to Van Zundert last time and if she achived it.