2024 ISU Congress Agenda

Karen-W

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In Favor of delaying implementation - USFS, JSF, Russia, Armenia, Israel, Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan, Ireland, Georgia
Opposed to delaying implementation - Canada, Spain, Iceland, Norway, India, Indonesia, Peru, Monaco

Unknown - Korea, France, Italy, Germany, Great Britain (I think they were in the red cards but I'm not positive), Australia, Austria, Czechia (I think I spotted the same guy that spoke up about the QRs standing up in the green cards but I'm not positive), Poland, Netherlands, and lots of other countries, lol.
 

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In Favor of delaying implementation - USFS, JSF, Russia, Armenia, Israel, Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan, Ireland, Georgia
Opposed to delaying implementation - Canada, Spain, Iceland, Norway, India, Indonesia, Peru, Monaco

Unknown - Korea, France, Italy, Germany, Great Britain (I think they were in the red cards but I'm not positive), Australia, Austria, Czechia (I think I spotted the same guy that spoke up about the QRs standing up in the green cards but I'm not positive), Poland, Netherlands, and lots of other countries, lol.
yes, I think Czech man was up with the green card if he took the cards in the rolling call at the beginning in the right order.
Here are the Green cards:
 

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More green cards: Bulgaria (Ivan Dinev); Ukraine (Yevgeny Martynov).

Video of the press conference has been published. (I have not watched yet.)

(34:48)​

I have a feeling that Ireland's Karen O'Sullivan will be active in discussion of the Constitution at the Extraordinary Congress next year. :)
 

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yes, I think Czech man was up with the green card if he took the cards in the rolling call at the beginning in the right order.
Here are the Green cards:
I'm going back through the roll call now to see who I can identify :)
 

Frau Muller

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So where’s the Readers’ Digest version of what passed in this Congress, which goes into effect in the 2024/25 season? So far, I only know that the Qualifying Rounds at Worlds did not pass. I also know that Billie Idol songs have not been vanished! 🤪
 

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So I randomly started watching todays video and considering the complete inability of some members to follow simple instructions ie.. "stand up with your green card and don't sit down until I tell you to" helps to understand why ISU figure skating makes so many inept decisions. I mean christ on a bike, stand up and don't sit down until Benoit says you can. How complicated is that ? :rofl:
You missed the earlier session where Beniot said the same thing, and then told them to sit down, and then needed them to stand up again. It's a game of follow the leader without clear leadership.
 

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yes, I think Czech man was up with the green card if he took the cards in the rolling call at the beginning in the right order.
Here are the Green cards:

More green cards: Bulgaria (Ivan Dinev); Ukraine (Yevgeny Martynov).

Video of the press conference has been published. (I have not watched yet.)

(34:48)​

I have a feeling that Ireland's Karen O'Sullivan will be active in discussion of the Constitution at the Extraordinary Congress next year. :)
I was able to identify additional green cards for - Slovenia, Italy, Lithuania, Liechtenstein, Estonia, Germany, Hong Kong, Hungary, Latvia and Uzbekistan

Additional red cards from - Denmark, Argentina, Belgium, Andorra, Luxembourg, Brazil, Mexico, Great Britain, Philippines, New Zealand, Netherlands

Still unknown - Austria, Australia (I think they were green), Finland, France, Korea, Morocco, Singapore, Serbia, Switzerland, Slovakia, Sweden, Turkey, Thailand, Taiwan - we never got a clear shot of the front far corner where most of the S & T countries were seated.

They only recorded 1 abstention but I did not see Singapore, Morocco, France or Austria stand up for either the red or green cards as far as I could tell.
 
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I'm watching the Press Conference now - streamed about an hour ago - and they mentioned new cameras, and equipment for video review during competitions. Do we have any detail on the new setup?

 

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Are these Congress events new or have they just never been this public? Maybe I just stayed out of the threads if it had "Congress" in the title because... oh brother the U.S. congress always seems useless. lol 59th... so these are happening every year? or what?
 

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Are these Congress events new or have they just never been this public? Maybe I just stayed out of the threads if it had "Congress" in the title because... oh brother the U.S. congress always seems useless. lol 59th... so these are happening every year? or what?
They are biennial - except there wasn't one in 2020 because of the pandemic. It was streamed in 2022 and 2018 - it seems like that was probably the first year the ISU did that.
 

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Are these Congress events new or have they just never been this public? Maybe I just stayed out of the threads if it had "Congress" in the title because... oh brother the U.S. congress always seems useless. lol 59th... so these are happening every year? or what?

I think ISU Congress happens every two years, and the ISU Council meets at least once every year. I don't know if the Congress has been livestreamed in previous years.
 

Karen-W

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This is oppression.

(Also why is Russia there? Why do they get a vote?)
:rolleyes:

Way to cherry-pick amongst the countries that voted for delay or the ones that voted to implement immediately.

Russia and Belarus can only be banned from competition, they can't be banned from exercising their rights as ISU Members to attend Congress and vote - this was discussed and debated 2 years ago.
 

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Way to cherry-pick amongst the countries that voted for delay or the ones that voted to implement immediately.
Russia and Belarus can only be banned from competition, they can't be banned from exercising their rights as ISU Members to attend Congress and vote - this was discussed and debated 2 years ago.
I wish to see how they voted for Russia and Belarus' exclusion from competitions. It would be funny if they voted in favour.
 

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So they're saying skaters can step to an inside edge and rock over to outside? Um, OK....that's not the way I learned my Adult Silver Moves, but whatever...
What the what what??? Every single one of my skating coaches (both dance and non-dance) have been very clear that you step onto the outside edge on a cross roll. And frankly, if I can manage it then elite skaters have zero excuse.
 

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What the what what??? Every single one of my skating coaches (both dance and non-dance) have been very clear that you step onto the outside edge on a cross roll. And frankly, if I can manage it then elite skaters have zero excuse.
Apparently this has been the rule for 5 years now, and this just amends the official regulations to match the way the cross roll has been judged.
 

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First, thanks to all of you who have the patience and mental capacity to follow what appears to have been an absolute clown show. I've tried to read this thread but am still not sure about the outcome. Would one of you mind confirming the status of the proposed reduction in jumping passes from seven to six? Passed as part of the package but implementation is delayed until after the OLYs?
 

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Schedule of the final day of the ISU Congress

Friday, June 14
09.00 to 12.00 (approx.) Congress – agenda items D.22 – D.28
12.15 to 13.00 (approx.) Opening Doors – Cocktails
20.00 to 24.00 Closing Banquet hosted by the ISU


Agenda for the final day of the ISU Congress

D. Congress

22. Election of an auditing company to serve until the next Congress.

23. Motions concerning amendments to the General Regulations referred to the Figure Skating and SpeedSkating Branches.

24. Ratification of the actions and decisions of the Council, the Director General, the Directors and theTechnical Committees.

25. Presentation of a status report on the existing four-year plan for the ISU for the period since the 2022Congress.

26. Election of Honorary Members.

27. Various including all other matters which, in accordance with the Constitution or the Regulations, arerequired to be dealt with by Congress.

28. Closing of Congress by the President.
 

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First, thanks to all of you who have the patience and mental capacity to follow what appears to have been an absolute clown show. I've tried to read this thread but am still not sure about the outcome. Would one of you mind confirming the status of the proposed reduction in jumping passes from seven to six? Passed as part of the package but implementation is delayed until after the OLYs?
Yes, the proposed technical changes for Singles, and Pairs were passed but delayed until the 2026/27 season, and so I would suggest waiting to see the technical requirements for that season before getting too invested in these changes because, as we've seen this week, the ISU Congress could reverse, or change the decision at the next Congress in 2026.
 

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They're already on item #26 - election of Honorary Members - they're going to do that in 2026, so onto 27. This session is going to be over very fast, lol.

ETA - and less than 10 minutes later, they're done! Yeah, they really do need to tighten up this schedule. They could have easily finished this Congress in 4 days.
 
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Just for the sake of clarity these are the technical changes that were approved for next season for the Singles & Pairs disciplines.

236. Singles & Pair Skating Technical Committee
Rule 610 To amend paragraphs
Spins

In any spin change of edge can be counted only if done in a basic position. Variations of the position of the head, arms or free leg, as well as fluctuations of speed are permitted.

Spin in one position and (in Singles) Flying spin (which means a spin with a flying entrance and no change of foot and position): positions that are not basic are allowed, counted in the total number of revolutions required by the Rules, but are not valid for Level features.
In spins in one position and flying spins
The concluding upright position at the end of the spin (final wind-up)is not considered to be another position independent of the number of revolutions, as long as in such a final wind-up no additional feature is executed (change of edge, variation of position etc).

Illegal/Elements Movements are
- somersault type jumps;
Reason: somersault type jumps are very spectacular and nowadays it is not logical anymore to include themas illegal movements

237. Singles & Pair Skating Technical Committee
Rule 611, paragraph 3 To amend as follows:
The Junior Short Program shall consist of the following required elements, which form three groups. The groups that are effective on July 1st of each year are:

2024-2025
Men
a) Double or triple Axel Paulsen;
b) Double or triple Flip jump;
c) Jump combination consisting of a double and a triple jump or two triple jumps;
d) Flying camel spin;
e) Sit spin with only one change of foot;
f) Spin combination with only one change of foot;
g) Step sequence fully utilizing the ice surface.

Women
a) Double Axel Paulsen;
b) Double or triple Flip jump;
c) Jump combination consisting of two double jumps or one double and one triple jump or two triplejumps;
d) Flying camel spin;
e) Layback / sideways leaning spin or sit spin without change of foot;
f) Spin combination with only one change of foot;
g) Step sequence fully utilizing the ice surface.

2025-2026
Men
a) Double or triple Axel Paulsen;
b) Double or triple Loop jump;
c) Jump combination consisting of a double and a triple jump or two triple jumps;
d) Flying sit spin;
e) Camel spin with only one change of foot;
f) Spin combination with only one change of foot;
g) Step sequence fully utilizing the ice surface.

Women
a) Double Axel Paulsen;
b) Double or triple Loop jump;
c) Jump combination consisting of two double jumps or one double and one triple jump or two triple jumps;
d) Flying sit spin;
e) Layback / sideways leaning spin or camel spin without change of foot;
f) Spin combination with only one change of foot;
g) Step sequence fully utilizing the ice surface.

2026-2027
Men
a) Double or triple Axel Paulsen;
b) Double or triple Lutz jump;
c) Jump combination consisting of a double and a triple jump or two triple jumps;
d) Flying camel spin;e) Sit spin with only one change of foot;
f) Spin combination with only one change of foot;
g) Step sequence fully utilizing the ice surface.

Women
a) Double Axel Paulsen;
b) Double or triple Lutz jump;
c) Jump combination consisting of two double jumps or one double and one triple jump or two triple jumps;
d) Flying camel spin;
e) Layback / sideways leaning spin or sit spin without change of foot;
f) Spin combination with only one change of foot;
g) Step sequence fully utilizing the ice surface.

Reason: Usual groups rotation.

243. Singles & Pair Skating Technical Committee
Rule 620 To amend the below parts as follows, whereby all text of the current rule which is not shown as amended, shall stay in force:
Short Programs Pairs
2. The Senior Short Program shall consist of the following required elements, which form three groups. The groups that are effective on July 1st of each year are:

2024-2025
a) Any hand to hand lift take-off (Group Four);
b) Twist lift (double or triple);
c) Throw jump (double or triple);
d) Solo jump (double or triple);
e) Solo spin combination with only one change of foot; Pair Spin Combination;
f) Death spiral backward outside;
g) Step sequence fully utilizing the ice surface;

2025-2026
a) Any Lasso lift take-off (Group Five);
b) Twist lift (double or triple);
c) Throw jump (double or triple);
d) Solo jump (double or triple);
e) Solo spin combination with only one change of foot;
f) Death spiral backward inside;
g) Step sequence fully utilizing the ice surface.

2026-2027
a) Any hip lift take-off (Group Three);
b) Twist lift (double or triple);
c) Throw jump (double or triple);
d) Solo jump (double or triple);
e) Solo spin combination with only one change of foot; Pair Spin Combination;
f) Death spiral forward inside;
g) Step sequence fully utilizing the ice surface.

3. The Junior Short Program shall consist of the following required elements, which form three groups. The groups that are effective on July 1st of each year are:

2024-2025
a) Any hand to hand lift take-off (Group Four);
b) Twist lift (double or triple);
c) Double or triple Salchow throw jump;
d) Double Flip or double Axel solo jump;
e) Solo spin combination with only one change of foot; Pair Spin Combination
f) Death spiral backward outside;
g) Step sequence fully utilizing the ice surface.

2025-2026
a) Any Lasso lift take-off (Group Five);
b) Twist lift (double or triple);
c) Double or triple toe loop or Flip/Lutz throw jump;
d) Double loop or double Axel solo jump;
e) Solo spin combination with only one change of foot;
f) Death spiral backward inside;
g) Step sequence fully utilizing the ice surface.

2026-2027
a) Any hip lift take-off (Group Three);
b) Twist lift (double or triple);
c) Double or triple loop throw jump;
d) Double Lutz or double Axel solo jump;
e) Solo spin combination with only one change of foot; Pair Spin Combination;
f) Death spiral forward inside;
g) Step sequence fully utilizing the ice surface.
Reason: Usual groups rotation
 
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So backflips are now legal? Except they can't be practiced at official practices or warmup.

I wonder who besides Adam will do one next season.

Thanks to those who reported all the details from the Congress. I watched part of Tues through today but missed quite a bit trying to work at the same time, so the summaries posted here were much appreciated.
 

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Just for the sake of clarity these are the technical changes that were approved for next season for the Singles & Pairs disciplines.

242. Singles & Pair Skating Technical Committee
Rule 619 To amend the below parts as follows, whereby all text of the current rule which is not shown as amended, shall stay in force:
Lifts
Pair lifts are classified as follows:
Group Three - Hand to Hip or upper part of the leg including buttocks (above the knee) position
Reason: To avoid possible miss-understanding.

Twist lifts
The Woman must be caught in the air at the waist by the Man prior to landing and be assisted to a smooth landing on the ice on a backward outside edge on one foot.
Reason: To allow more variety in landing.
Yesterday during the FS Branch meeting they said it was 243 not 242 that would be implemented this season.

ETA - Confirmation it is 243 - https://isu.org/isu-news/news/145-n...-decisive-regulatory-changes?templateParam=15
 

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