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in dance why are Z and K the third alternate, after the great performance at four continents why are they left back in this position? Because of US nationals? I’d go with International judging.
2024 Four Continents/Junior Worlds/Worlds US Team Speculation
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Wyliefan
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They didn't go by nationals order for the women. No Lindsay at all. I wonder if she was so injured that she took herself out of consideration. 
Karen-W
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The USFS adhered pretty strictly to Nats results in every discipline except women.
Notably, they aren't sending Everhardt out to try and obtain the TES mins AND they skipped over Clare Seo, who finished ahead of Starr at Nats.
The other "skip" they made was not even bothering to assign the Mokhovs as #3 alternates despite them having the TES mins. Then again, the Mokhovs shouldn't be getting assignments (or the increase in Team Envelope Funding as a 3rd alternate) just because the pool of teams we have that are internationally eligible is temporarily smaller than normal.
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So is Sarah’s season affectively over? They’re not sending her anywhere?
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I’m confused why Green/Parsons are first alternate when they shared that they are dealing with injuries.
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Well, Coupe de Printemps entries aren't due until next week, I think, so they could send her out to that.
What blows my mind is they named Martins/Bedard pending TES mins but they aren't even officially (as on 1/31) confirmed participants at Challenge Cup. I presume the USFS has additional information that makes them believe MarBed will be able to compete there, so that's good.
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The only logical reason I can think of is Team Envelope Funding for next season. Due to their 4th at Nats they're in B1 whereas Pate/Bye and Zingas/Kolesnik are in B2 due to their 5th & 6th place finishes. Absolutely no one has their envelope changed by these alternate selections.
AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)
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USFSA has seen my enthusiasm and is now consulting me. Everything is very on the hush-hush.
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FWIW USFS updated their international assignments page yesterday and Challenge Cup is back on there, so somebody must be going. This would be a better fit for team Malinina/Skorniakov to take Sarah Everhardt and Lucius Kazanecki since Coupe de Printemps is a week before worlds, when presumably both parents would prefer to be in the US focusing on Ilia. Hopefully we'll find out soon from either the Challenge Cup organizers or USFS.
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Challenge Cup competitors named:
Kaori! Nina P.! Shaidorov!
No Sarah E or Lucius…
Kaori! Nina P.! Shaidorov!
No Sarah E or Lucius…
Karen-W
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Uhm, yeah... there's an updated list from Jan 31 - still no US skaters - Martins/Bedard are listed as Res 2 in Pairs.Challenge Cup competitors named:
Kaori! Nina P.! Shaidorov!
No Sarah E or Lucius…
AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)
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Challenge Cup competitors named:
Kaori! Nina P.! Shaidorov!
No Sarah E or Lucius…
North America skaters aren’t participating in this at all, when is this? Surprising to see some of the world podium contenders at this event.
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Oh OK yeah now I see a Canadian entrant
Where does USFSA expect to send Isabelle and Ryan to obtain minimums then?
Karen-W
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I think they're hoping or expecting that there will be a couple of withdrawals that will move the teams listed as reserves up to be able to compete.
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Well, in future, if I win a big lottery, I will sponsor a North American Senior B in late Jan, early Feb. Problem solved
Hey! Just want to chime in and say you’re absolutely wrong. A lot of top level skaters do read this forum and negative comments do effect people. Not that you would care
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Oh, you are correct. I do not care if anything I say here bothers top level skaters. They read public forums by their own choice and if what they read affects them then that is the risk they are taking. They need to own that choice as much as I own my words and determine whether or not the risk of reading a public forum is worth the toll it may or may not take on their mental health.Hey! Just want to chime in and say you’re absolutely wrong. A lot of top level skaters do read this forum and negative comments do effect people. Not that you would care
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Hey! Just want to chime in and say you’re absolutely wrong. A lot of top level skaters do read this forum and negative comments do effect people. Not that you would care
Karen didn't say they don't read it. She said they are likely exposed to it in their own rinks.
That being said, people on an online skating forum will never refrain from criticizing any skater just in case they read it. If you decide to go looking, you have to accept you may not like what you find.
And I’m saying that’s not true, at least from my own experience the things said at rinks do not compare to these forums
and I also disagree with the sentiment that just because it’s an online skating forum it excuses some of the mean things said about skaters and their accomplishments.
Wyliefan
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When it's nasty comments about things like a skater's appearance, sure. But I'm not sure a discussion of who gets what spot falls into that category.
Karen-W
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And I’m saying that’s not true, at least from my own experience the things said at rinks do not compare to these forums
and others who do have plenty of rink life experience have stated otherwise. Just because you haven't experienced doesn't mean it isn't happening. But, really, if a skater wants or needs validation for their accomplishments then they can go find their fan thread over in The Trash Can. If there isn't one, they can start it and go from there.
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And I’m saying that’s not true, at least from my own experience the things said at rinks do not compare to these forums
Your own experience is that people don’t say nasty things in rinks? Hard to imagine.
And sorry, but no one is saying mean thinks in this thread. There are mean thing that have been said in other threads, and they generally get called out, but if a skater can’t handle a pretty measured discussion of who should get alternate spots, they need to curate their own experience. You may as well.
Fair point. Skaters should steer clear of these forums but it can be hard when the whole sport is about being judged on people’s opinions
But, really, if a skater wants or needs validation for their accomplishments then they can go find their fan thread over in The Trash Can. If there isn't one, they can start it and go from there.
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luckily none of it is being judged by our opinions we're just cranky old people who spend too much time obsessing over blades attached to people's feet
although I would adore it if a skater came and started their own cheer thread that's hilarious and a power move
Karen-W
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Same! I might even become a fan (if I wasn't already).
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Oh, they do, just not here.
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I don't doubt that, it's just that bulletin boards are so old school and for a young(er) person to wander on here and be like "I'm going to use this archaic technology just to talk up myself" it's just so funny to me (although there is some discussion to be had about whether we should be returning to board models as opposed to using places like discord as a database but that's something else entirely)
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There wasn’t an ideal place to put it, but Coupe du Printemps entries are out and there are no US skaters, even though this event is on the USFS international assignments page. 
I hope USFS has chosen another event to send skaters to instead. Triglav seems like the only highish profile option. There are a number of skaters who could use a post-nationals assignment, IMO: Kazanecki, Everhardt, Johnson (junior ladies), etc.
I hope USFS has chosen another event to send skaters to instead. Triglav seems like the only highish profile option. There are a number of skaters who could use a post-nationals assignment, IMO: Kazanecki, Everhardt, Johnson (junior ladies), etc.
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Got a link to the entries?
