2019 Golden Globes Red Carpet and Awards Ceremony

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Seriously, if the biggest competition was A Star is Born and Black Panther, then I can see why Bohemian Rhapsody won. People really loved that movie even if it's pretty basic. At least it's enjoyable. If Roma had been eligible, I bet it would have been stronger competition.
 

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I mean, I absolutely loved Bohemian Rhapsody, but that could be because I didn't know a lot of the history and inaccuracies in the movie (which is a big source of the criticism).

HFPA usually likes to get the big names on stage, so I'm surprised it didn't go to ASIB to get Bradley (and Gaga) up there to win at least 1 of the 3 awards for which he was nominated.
 

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The inaccuracies in Bohemian Rhapsody were an issue for me. I enjoyed the movie very much and Rami gives a great performance but it's not something I'll watch again and again like Black Panther. Black Panther was a revelation and historical film for many people.

ETA: I hope Crazy Rich Asians is nominated from an Oscar.
 
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I still think Black Panther should have won and may win the Oscars.
I think it will win technical Oscars, but I'd say Best Picture is an extremely long shot. But getting a BP nod alone would put it in a league of its own for comic-book films.
 

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I think it will win technical Oscars, but I'd say Best Picture is an extremely long shot. But getting a BP nod alone would put it in a league of its own for comic-book films.
Well it was the biggest movie of 2018; First film with all major acting categories were played by black people; a black director and a soundtrack that features a nobel prize winner.

Also it is extremely well acted and made film.
 

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Seriously, if the biggest competition was A Star is Born and Black Panther, then I can see why Bohemian Rhapsody won. People really loved that movie even if it's pretty basic. At least it's enjoyable.
A lot of people found "Black Panther" and "A Star is Born" to be enjoyable and loved those movies. I'm not usually a big fan of action films or of super hero films, but I thought "Black Panther" was spectacular and a standout and original in that genre. I know people who haven't seen it who just think of it as being like Spiderman or The Avengers, but I definitely don't. I thought it was brilliant.

Bohemian Rhapsody was quite popular around the world, and it is the foreign press that is voting. I'm still surprised it won, though.

Brian May was involved in the production of "Bohemian Rhapsody" and did not seem to have a problem with any historical inaccuracies. So, they didn't bother me. I have a soft spot for Queen as I think of them when I think of the music of my childhood. I definitely enjoyed the film. I just didn't think it was anything special in terms of movie making.
 

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Well it was the biggest movie of 2018; First film with all major acting categories were played by black people; a black director and a soundtrack that features a nobel prize winner.

Also it is extremely well acted and made film.
A movie shouldn't be given awards just because of the skin colour of the people involved. Yes, it was a great film, but was it *really* that much better than all of the other superhero movies out there? IMO no.
Also, worldwide, Infinity War made about $700 million more
 

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A movie shouldn't be given awards just because of the skin colour of the people involved. Yes, it was a great film, but was it *really* that much better than all of the other superhero movies out there? IMO no.
Also, worldwide, Infinity War made about $700 million more
Are you kidding me? They're have been plenty of awards given to "historical" films with "firsts". Infiniity War was released in more theaters too.

However, Infinity War was a very good film but it did not have the impact of Black Panther.
 

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A movie shouldn't be given awards just because of the skin colour of the people involved. Yes, it was a great film, but was it *really* that much better than all of the other superhero movies out there?
IMO, yes, it was. And that is why I think it should be lauded. The color of the actors' skin was integral to the story. I don't think it should win just because black people were involved. Just like I don't think Crazy Rich Asians should win just because Asians are involved. IMO, "Black Panther" is a brilliant and thought-provoking movie. I thought it was significantly better than "Bohemian Rhapsody." And I say that as someone who loves Queen and loves music-related movies and really am not into super hero films.
 

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A lot of mediocre movies get nominated and win awards for reasons I disagree with, so I don’t mind if those movies that made it a mission to showcase talents of POC that often get ignored or never get cast in anything that gets attention get in.
 

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Well it was the biggest movie of 2018; First film with all major acting categories were played by black people; a black director and a soundtrack that features a nobel prize winner.

Also it is extremely well acted and made film.
I dont think a movie should win awards based on skin color. Also the most popular movie at the B.O. Doesn't always win (actually that is quite rare). I have not seen this movie, though I plan to. I don't usually watch superhero movies.

I didn't know the history of Queen but as a movie I found it very enjoyable and extremely well acted. The music performances in the movie felt very real, like I was there.

Besides, I was not looking for A documentary about Queen. So I am ok with the changes they made to create an effective story that was entertaining.
 

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Well it was the biggest movie of 2018; First film with all major acting categories were played by black people; a black director and a soundtrack that features a nobel prize winner.

Also it is extremely well acted and made film.
Having huge box office doesn't mean it will win Best Picture at the Oscars.

And as I recall "Moonlight" (which I think only made about 20 million at the box office) was a (great) movie with all major acting categories played by black people, was written and directed by a black man, AND WON Best Picture. That same director this year made the extremely moving "If Beale Street Could Talk," which IMO is a far more compelling movie than "Black Panther," which was well made fluff. I'm glad you felt empowered by it, but all I am saying is that *I* don't believe it is the genre of film that Oscar usually anoints with a Best Picture statue.
 

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Having huge box office doesn't mean it will win Best Picture at the Oscars.

And as I recall "Moonlight" (which I think only made about 20 million at the box office) was a (great) movie with all major acting categories played by black people, was written and directed by a black man, AND WON Best Picture. That same director this year made the extremely moving "If Beale Street Could Talk," which IMO is a far more compelling movie than "Black Panther," which was well made fluff. I'm glad you felt empowered by it, but all I am saying is that *I* don't believe it is the genre of film that Oscar usually anoints with a Best Picture Oscar.
I think LOTR was an exception.

I didn't like Moonlight (I liked the first one third, but not the rest if the movie) and I thought Beake street was a poorly made movie (despite the meaningful story it was based on).
 
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I don't get what's the big deal if Crazy Rich Asians or Black Panther get in for Best Picture. Not that it matters, but the critics' scores for those movies are higher than or on the level of a lot of BP nominees in the past two decades, they have high audience scores which means people actually enjoy those films, and they have the box office. Sure they're not art films and I personally wouldn't nominate them, but after so many years of seeing films I personally don't relate to or like get nominated for big awards because the membership relates to their themes and central characters (because they center around stories they identify with), then there's no issue for me. It's not like it has Bohemian Rhapsody's low critic score or The Blind Side's, etc. I don't see people complaining that those movies got in for superficial reasons, but because people perceive BP or CRA getting in because of the race of the actors, producers, director, screenwriters, etc. it's now a problem. People vote for these things mainly based on feeling and if they somehow felt something from those movies to rank them in the BP race and they get enough members to vote them in, then to me, their reasons are just as valid as other people's reasons for voting for films they personally like. Thats all it is. Like it or not, a lot of people truly liked/loved BP and CRA. Plus, people might be complaining about nothing as it's no guarantee these movies will get in.
 

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Actor TV Series (Drama) - Richard Madden ("Bodyguard')
I am so so happy with this. Watching the show, I was very impressed but figured it would get ignored at the awards like many great British shows that aren’t trendy. The nom was a great surprise and the win is extraordinary. Madden gave such an incredible performance. Well deserved.

Also v pleased to see Ben Whishaw FINALLY get recognized. So overdue for even a nomination.

Was Meghan Mulalley doing Julianne Moore drag?!

Don’t make me choose between Close and Colman for the Oscar!

Gaga will win for Best Song and won’t factor in the acting race, if she’s even nominated.
 

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Having huge box office doesn't mean it will win Best Picture at the Oscars.

And as I recall "Moonlight" (which I think only made about 20 million at the box office) was a (great) movie with all major acting categories played by black people, was written and directed by a black man, AND WON Best Picture. That same director this year made the extremely moving "If Beale Street Could Talk," which IMO is a far more compelling movie than "Black Panther," which was well made fluff. I'm glad you felt empowered by it, but all I am saying is that *I* don't believe it is the genre of film that Oscar usually anoints with a Best Picture statue.

I never said that huge box office numbers means a best picture win at the oscars nor does that mean a movie is great. I never said that. I simply gave some examples of the film's success. When did I ever say it should win because is was the #1 grossing film in 2018.

All of the movies you mentioned have black and african american actors however, you are missing the point. Moonlight was a great movie but it was a not a major studio film nor in it's representation of black people as a whole as historical inferior and racist trope. The impact of Black Panther was much more widespread and huge. It's a film that received the backing a major studio with major budget. That has NEVER happened before. A major movie where the main character is a black hero. It's a movie that shows what it is to be black in America and in Africa and the cultural struggles. Erik Killmonger(Michael B Jordan) is the anti-hero. Killmonger’s stated purpose was to liberate black people all over the world. There are so many nuances throughout the movie that reflect on things like African colonization, Black power movement, Pan-africanism, and assimilation. The fictional country Wakanda is touted as the only African country to never be colonized(like Ethiopia). The movie asks many questions but one of the most important questions it asks is the question does the world(european/western) want to keep African underdeveloped and dependent on aid?

I respect the work done by Barry Jenkins and the stories he is telling. But Ryan Coogler's Black Panther is telling and examining the story of the worldwide African Diaspora.
 

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I dont think a movie should win awards based on skin color.
A movie shouldn't be given awards just because of the skin colour of the people involved.
Hollywood has always been partial to films about slavery/African Americans and the Holocaust. It allows it to pat itself on the back for being progressive.

Of course, the stories of slavery/African Americans/the Holocaust do need to be told.

But Hollywood has a ways to go before it actually becomes progressive. It is still very much run by an old boy's club and is largely sexist, with women very underrepresented among the producers and directors of films.

And I'd like to see other minority groups, like Native Americans, get better representation in film. And more opportunities to make films. And more female directors.
 
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Rami looking awkward on the stage as the only cast member up there. Odd that the cast of the best picture didn't go up on stage with the producers, except Rami (we know Lucy Boynton is in the audience...)
So apparently the rest of the cast weren't invited! I don't know who's in charge of these things but someone needs a butt-kicking over that. Just as Queen wasn't only Freddie, that movie wasn't only brilliant because of Rami.

Meanwhile, did they really say this during the opening monologue?

Oh said, "Rami Malek wore Freddie Mercury’s teeth throughout the entire film.”

“Can you imagine how hard that must have been?” Samberg said. “I mean, first of all, you have to get the family’s permission to exhume the body. I don’t even know where you would begin with that conversation.”
How awful. Why would you say something like that? I can only imagine how Brian and Roger felt hearing that! Not to mention Freddie's family watching at home!
 

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I still think Black Panther should have won and may win the Oscars.
Watched “Black Panther” and it was entertaining if formulaic for what it was. If that is the pinnacle of cinematic achievement of the past 12 months what a shite year it will have been for film.
 

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There was an article about why movies like Black Panther will have a hard time winning awards versus movies like Hidden Figues. Wish I could find the link.
 

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So apparently the rest of the cast weren't invited! I don't know who's in charge of these things but someone needs a butt-kicking over that. Just as Queen wasn't only Freddie, that movie wasn't only brilliant because of Rami.
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They got to go to the after party at least (from Joe Mazzello's instagram).
 

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I'm surprised more people aren't making a big deal about alleged sexual predator Bryan Singer's director and major involvement with Bohemian Rhapsody. Usually all the rival studios go full-steam ahead with any controversy they can think of to weaken the competition for these awards.

ETA: I see that Elsie Fisher from Eighth Grade was attacked by her mostly Millennial (or is it younger) followers on Twitter for saying she was happy that Rami Malek won and that BR won Best Film and bringing up Bryan Singer being a sexual predator and assaulter of minor-aged boys.
 
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Wow. "Bohemian Rhapsody" winning is a bigger upset than Rami Malek winning. I liked the movie and it has done very well around the world, but I did not think of it as a great movie. It would have been cool if "Black Panther" had won, but I didn't expect that.
You really wanted a Superhero movie to win? That would start a flood of Superhero movie (and I will quit going to movies). Don’t we already have too many of those?
 

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Hollywood has always been partial to films about slavery/African Americans and the Holocaust. It allows it to pat itself on the back for being progressive.

Of course, the stories of slavery/African Americans/the Holocaust do need to be told.

But Hollywood has a ways to go before it actually becomes progressive. It is still very much run by an old boy's club and is largely sexist, with women very underrepresented among the producers and directors of films.

And I'd like to see other minority groups, like Native Americans, get better representation in film. And more opportunities to make films. And more female directors.
Actually it was just a few years ago that no black actor/actress was nominated and there was furor over it (justifiably, IMO). I do agree with you about the Holocaust movies, but many of them having been superb. May be it is the pain that helps create great art, as is often the case.
 

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It seems to have been a while since a Holocaust or World War II movie has entered the awards equation for Best Picture at least. I know we had some like Dunkirk but it wasn't winning major awards or was favored to. Maybe those movies are becoming passe with the Academy. I know there was a trailer I saw this summer with Oscar Isaac playing this Israeli operative who captures a former SS officer and it becomes a sort of battle of wills with the former SS Officer playing mind games with him, and that seems to have come and gone.
 

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It seems to have been a while since a Holocaust or World War II movie has entered the awards equation for Best Picture at least. I know we had some like Dunkirk but it wasn't winning major awards or was favored to. Maybe those movies are becoming passe with the Academy. I know there was a trailer I saw this summer with Oscar Isaac playing this Israeli operative who captures a former SS officer and it becomes a sort of battle of wills with the former SS Officer playing mind games with him, and that seems to have come and gone.
You mean Operation Finale. It got mixed reviews as far as I know. It's on Canadian Netflix right now. Joe Alwyn from the Favourite is in it in a supporting role.
 

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Gosh, what an odd set of awards last night! Bohemian Rhapsody wins over all the others? Green Book is a comedy? The African-American produced films lose to African-American themed films by white people?

As a show, it's fine to keep on background. A couple of thank you speeches were great - Glenn Close and Darren Cris to name a couple. And the booze helps with having things too stilted.

The best part was the announcement and award to Carol Burnett!
 

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It seems to have been a while since a Holocaust or World War II movie has entered the awards equation for Best Picture at least. I know we had some like Dunkirk but it wasn't winning major awards or was favored to. Maybe those movies are becoming passe with the Academy. I know there was a trailer I saw this summer with Oscar Isaac playing this Israeli operative who captures a former SS officer and it becomes a sort of battle of wills with the former SS Officer playing mind games with him, and that seems to have come and gone.
Hacksaw Ridge, Darkest Hour were also nominated recently. And you have general war movies like Zero Dark Thirty and American Sniper. If you want movies that are ignored, it's romantic movies. And when they do get recognized, there is a huge backlash, a la La La Land.

I loved Crazy Rich Asians. I would love for it to be nominated.
 

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Hacksaw Ridge, Darkest Hour were also nominated recently. And you have general war movies like Zero Dark Thirty and American Sniper. If you want movies that are ignored, it's romantic movies. And when they do get recognized, there is a huge backlash, a la La La Land.

I loved Crazy Rich Asians. I would love for it to be nominated.
There is certainly a genre bias with these things where themes that men of a certain age relate to tend to be deemed as more important that ones that women do unless it's something a man can relate to. Any theme can be great art. It's all in the execution. Of course, last year we got a figure skating movie winning awards (one I publicly disliked), so that's something. I also didn't like La La Land either, but I definitely saw the backlash. I think a lot of front-runners for Best Picture face backlash. It's people not getting the hype and getting tired of expecting the usual winner so the root for the underdog.

What gets me is that when there's a movie outside of the male framework or white framework, people automatically assume with social media being what it is now, that #oscarsowhite was the only reason a film made and/or centered around POC only got in because of the race or #metoo if it's a female centered film made by a woman (Lady Bird) or whatever now but we had what 80 years of Oscars rewarding certain movies accepted by a membership that's majority white and male above a certain age? They only choose things based on merit? I don't think so.
 

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