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If I remember correctly this woman is a different Sarah Hughes
On Thursday, she landed two triple Axels in practice at the Orleans Arena in Las Vegas ahead of competing at Skate America on Friday night and Saturday. Her short program and free skate are coincidentally set to the songs āScarsā and āRain, in Your Black Eyes.ā
Glenn said later Thursday, and her coaches confirmed Friday, that she so far does not plan to attempt the triple Axel in competition at Skate America.
āWeāre trying to get some mileage on it prior to putting it in,ā Peter Cain said. āWe were hoping to put it in this week, but I donāt think weāre quite ready yet.ā
10 years ago US ladies really weren't a threat for the world podium even if clean. Mirai had a brief moment in 2010 but it was Ashley and Gracie who made US ladies relevant again between 2012-16.I love all the US ladies and I want all of them on the podium and it's a problem.
It's insane how competitive the US ladies are with each other and how they still struggle on a world level. 10 years ago all of our top 3-4 would be world podium contenders if they were clean. Now it's much different.
I've met the "other" Sarah Hughes and I've seen this sentence included at the bottom of other NBC OlympicTalk articles:
"NBC Sports researcher Sarah Hughes (not the figure skater) contributed to this report."
Whatever happened to figure skater Sarah Hughes (not the NBC Sports researcher)?
I mean that if our current top 3-4 were competing the same programs 10 years ago they would be medal favorites.10 years ago US ladies really weren't a threat for the world podium even if clean. Mirai had a brief moment in 2010 but it was Ashley and Gracie who made US ladies relevant again between 2012-16.
Follow Adam Rippon on social media. He's always with her.
Who are the 3-4 skaters that would be podium contenders 10 years ago? I see only Bradie and Mariah and even them Yuna and Mao were on another level and a clean Joannie Rochette was better too.I mean that if our current top 3-4 were competing the same programs 10 years ago they would be medal favorites.
The NBC researcher Sarah Hughes is also often seen on Nastia Liukin's Instagram stories during gymnastics competitions.Follow Adam Rippon on social media. He's always with her.
Oh....that is like trying to compare apples to potatoes. Two different eras with different goals, skills and rules.I mean that if our current top 3-4 were competing the same programs 10 years ago they would be medal favorites.
However looking at this competition, US skaters seem to be stuck in the past save for Alyssa Liu. It seems clear to me that the US judges still reward clean skating over attempted difficulty. Mariah Bell and Karen look like throw backs to the Kwan era with 3-2 combos. While it is enjoyable to watch, this content looks really watered down compared to what the Russian girls are doing.Oh....that is like trying to compare apples to potatoes. Two different eras with different goals, skills and rules.
...which is terrific! Bradie almost won the entire comp. I always feel like she is the one to watch. Shin (and Chen) were great, too, but Bradie has the experience edge over Shin (for now) if she skates a clean program.8 of the 11 U.S. ladies went for 3-3 combos in the SP and Bradie won the FS with two 3Lz+3T. Everyone knows they have to up their tech. content.
This is a great post because you've managed to sum up the fundamental weakness of US skating. Regarding Mariah, she knows how to work that PCS, which I give her big props for, but up against a clean skate by the Russian ladies, it becomes much more difficult. US judges love a clean skate, but then so do I. However, 3-2 combos will not get it done internationally.However looking at this competition, US skaters seem to be stuck in the past save for Alyssa Liu. It seems clear to me that the US judges still reward clean skating over attempted difficulty. Mariah Bell and Karen look like throw backs to the Kwan era with 3-2 combos. While it is enjoyable to watch, this content looks really watered down compared to what the Russian girls are doing.
true. USa never really got the memo when COP came down the line. COP emphasizes different things and the US ladies kept thinking those gorgeous spirals.and lay backs etc. (And oh how I MISS THOSE) would carry them through.However looking at this competition, US skaters seem to be stuck in the past save for Alyssa Liu. It seems clear to me that the US judges still reward clean skating over attempted difficulty. Mariah Bell and Karen look like throw backs to the Kwan era with 3-2 combos. While it is enjoyable to watch, this content looks really watered down compared to what the Russian girls are doing.
I think US skating continues to be influenced by the values that have traditionally shaped US skating (values that produced Karen Chen's spiral for instance). We don't have an Eteri in our midst. That's a good thing. We may not be in medal contention these days (and probably won't be until we get a crop of senior ladies who can consistently jump quads like we have on the men's side) but US skating still looks like US skating while Russian (ladies) skating (with the exception of Medvedeva) looks so incredibly formulaic and cookie cutter. It's skating devoid of soul or artistic interest. Watching paint dry is more exciting than what I saw from the latest Russian Cup. I saw one or two big jumps, a whole lot of arm flailing, clutter and formula and not much else...certainly no connection to the music or any kind of artistic expression. I would hate to see US skating end up looking like that.true. USa never really got the memo when COP came down the line. COP emphasizes different things and the US ladies kept thinking those gorgeous spirals.and lay backs etc. (And oh how I MISS THOSE) would carry them through.
I'll take Karen's spiral any day.... 4 minutes of it... But that won't win.
You're just a pathetic Sour Grapes! American Ladies not doing well, too bad you can't handle it...We may not be in medal contention these days (and probably won't be until we get a crop of senior ladies who can consistently jump quads like we have on the men's side) but US skating still looks like US skating while Russian (ladies) skating (with the exception of Medvedeva) looks so incredibly formulaic and cookie cutter. It's skating devoid of soul or artistic interest. Watching paint dry is more exciting than what I saw from the latest Russian Cup.
And yet Kwan herself landed more 3/3ās than people think, and Sarah Hughes landed 2 to win the Olympics. It amazes me how people continually try to downplay the US ladies. I see the US ladies as catching up while still maintaining artistry (minus Bradie who is working on it, but her focus is in the technical side). I donāt see many Russians landing quads or triple axels, and to be honest, not many Russian ladies landing 3/3ās past the age of 17-18. They have a shelf life of 2-3 years on the senior level if theyāre lucky.However looking at this competition, US skaters seem to be stuck in the past save for Alyssa Liu. It seems clear to me that the US judges still reward clean skating over attempted difficulty. Mariah Bell and Karen look like throw backs to the Kwan era with 3-2 combos. While it is enjoyable to watch, this content looks really watered down compared to what the Russian girls are doing.
Russian ladies who are landing quads and 3A are: Seniors: Shcherbakova, Trusova, Kostornaya, Tuktamysheva, Frolova plus few less known ones. All top 20 Russian Ladies land 3/3 combos. Juniors: Akatieva, Khromykh, Berestovskaya, several more, can't remember all the names i posted lately with "quads" or "3A" on the Russian circuit. And then there are novices.... who also jump quads and 3A's.I donāt see many Russians landing quads or triple axels, and to be honest, not many Russian ladies landing 3/3ās past the age of 17-18. They have a shelf life of 2-3 years on the senior level if theyāre lucky.
Under Armour turned to a crew of up-and-coming young athletes to help introduce the collection, including: football standout Bunchie Young; figure skater Audrey Shin; free-skier Troy Podmilsak; soccer star Chloe Shimkin; International Youth Boxing Champion Jesse Mehler; and nationally-ranked twin snowboarders, Devin and Barrett Hendrix.
Russian ladies who are landing quads and 3A are: Seniors: Shcherbakova, Trusova, Kostornaya, Tuktamysheva, Frolova plus few less known ones. All top 20 Russian Ladies land 3/3 combos. Juniors: Akatieva, Khromykh, Berestovskaya, several more, can't remember all the names i posted lately with "quads" or "3A" on the Russian circuit. And then there are novices.... who also jump quads and 3A's.
Alysa Liu used to jump 3A and quad, but not lately. One more Senior Lady, Amber Glenn showed 3A, but has not done it few days ago at Skate America.
Russian girls don't need to stay in Senior more than 2-3 years past 15. Because at 18 normal people go to college/university or training for future REAL career and occupation. It's good to win as much as possible by the age of 18 and then have a real life.. Because when one is realistic about what has to happen at 18 as far as choices "sports vs. education/career", that one is not falling into depression, drinking, binge eating, or any other abnormalities.
She likely knows this and is capable of more and is going to work toward landing those in the future.This is a great post because you've managed to sum up the fundamental weakness of US skating. Regarding Mariah, she knows how to work that PCS, which I give her big props for, but up against a clean skate by the Russian ladies, it becomes much more difficult. US judges love a clean skate, but then so do I. However, 3-2 combos will not get it done internationally.
And let's not forget we have an entire thread dedicated to Rachael Flatt is a graduate of Stanford with a degree in biology and is pursuing a PhD from the University of North Carolina. In addition, she wrote her Masters thesis on eating disorders among elite athletes.Regarding your assertion that only Russian girls pursue education and real careers, please note the following:
There are many others who have degrees and careers who are not as famous, but I would note that Tenley Albright, the 1956 Olympic Champion is a stellar example from Wikipedia)
- Michelle Kwan has a bachelors degree from the University of Denver and a Masters degree from Tufts in International Relations and currently is the Director of Surrogates for Joe Biden; she also worked for Hillary Clinton
- Sarah Hughes is a lawyer and went to Yale for her undergraduate degree and the University of Pennsylvania
- Emily Hughes received her undergraduate degree from Harvard and worked as a business analyst for Deloitte Consulting and now works for the International Olympic Committee
- Sasha Cohen's bachelors degree is from Columbia, one of the Ivy League schools and majored in finance
- Karen Chen currently attends Cornell, one of the Ivy League schools in the department of Human Biology, Health and Society on a pre-med track.
- Mirai Nagasu is attending the University of Colorado with a major in business
- Kimmie Meissner has a bachelors degree and is currently pursuing a Physician's Assistant degree, both from Towson, in Maryland. She still coaches actively
- Ashley Wagner is enrolled at Northeastern in Boston Massachusetts
- Bradie Tennell, while actively coaching is potentially pursuing a career in the medical field
- Alysa Liu is o track to graduate from high school at least a year ahead of time; undoubtedly, she will pursue a serious field of study
"A graduate of The Winsor School in Boston, Albright entered Radcliffe College in 1953 as a pre-med student,[7] and focused on completing her education after the 1956 Olympics.[8] She graduated from Harvard Medical School in 1961 at the age of 24,[9] went on to become a surgeon,[8][10] and she practiced for 23 years, continuing as a faculty member and lecturer at Harvard Medical School. For a while, she chaired the Board of Regents of the National Library of Medicine at the National Institutes of Health. As a director, she has served both not-for-profits such as The Whitehead Institute for Biomedical Research and the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution and for-profit enterprises such as West Pharmaceutical Services, Inc., and State Street Bank and Trust Company.[11] She is currently the Director of the MIT Collaborative Initiatives."
I think to dismiss the American ladies prematurely is short-sighted.
Thanks so much. I forgot about Rachael Flatt. She is a stellar example. As I said, if we put our collective heads together, we would find other such examples. Although not a high level skater, Condi Rice was the Secretary of State and Vera Wang heads up a fashion empire worth many millions.And let's not forget we have an entire thread dedicated to Rachael Flatt is a graduate of Stanford with a degree in biology and is pursuing a PhD from the University of North Carolina. In addition, she wrote her Masters thesis on eating disorders among elite athletes.
And Polina Edmunds is at the University of Santa Clara (or did she graduate this summer?).
Most of the US Ladies who have been Olympians in the last 20 years have been outstanding scholars in addition to their athletic achievements. Only 3 of the 14 since 1998 have not earned a University degree (and one of those 3 is still actively competing). I think that the US ladies are more than holding their own with Russia's ladies when it comes to academic achievement.
She graduated earlier this year - more about her in this dedicated thread: https://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/threads/polina-edmunds.107522/#post-5851436And Polina Edmunds is at the University of Santa Clara (or did she graduate this summer?).
Ita, and believe all the ladies know they will have to up the ante at some point.She likely knows this and is capable of more and will work toward landing those in the future.