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Ok. I just want to make sure that Alysa Liu is given the rank she deserves, and it is not "third" after the other two ladies.
How about the rank she 'earns'?
Ok. I just want to make sure that Alysa Liu is given the rank she deserves, and it is not "third" after the other two ladies.
“I admired Alysa before meeting her,” Kostner said, “and I admired her even more after for her work ethic, her eagerness to learn and her humbleness to say, ‘Oh, yeah, that was wrong. I’m going to try it again and see how I can make it work.’”
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Among the many things they worked on, Kostner said, were line, speed, jump landings, and how to push off to start moving. They also focused on range of crossovers, when to make the crossovers short and fast, when to make them big and long.
“That’s a great start in showing a difference in her skating,” Kostner said of the varied crossovers. “To not be just busy, busy, busy but to show gliding ability, holding positions, elegance and effortlessness by doing a simple thing like a crossover in amazingly different ways. I think it is starting to show.”
“It’s not just a process of the body, of learning things and putting them into action, but also of the mind, of the maturity of a person, of a girl slowly becoming an adult,” Kostner said. “Alysa is very aware of the steps she has to take, and I saw her ready to take those steps and also to have the patience to go through the steps. It doesn’t happen overnight.”
Both look at what they have done together so far as the start of a long-term relationship. Since April, they have used video and video chat to continue the work. They plan another series of live sessions together in Italy after the Junior Grand Prix Final.
“Carolina has seen my Junior Grand Prix [performances], and obviously she saw some improvements, but there still are a lot of things I need to fix in my skating skills and other areas,” Liu said.
I expect that any changes adding content to senior SPs wouldn't go into effect until 2022-23. But there might be bigger structural changes to the competition format on the table for that future era that would make the issue moot.
I actually think these changes will be made before 21-22 season.
For juniors as well. It's stupid that the 3axel junior girls do a 3a-combo and then are forced to do a 2axel in the same program.
What year was Mao Asada able to do 3axel in her SP? It was within her Olympic quad, right? So this should also pass this summer, you'd think.
All true... but! 3A and quads in juniors' SP are not forbidden, or not allowed.... They are simply "not included" because in the past there was "no need". Now there is "need" and the process should be simple - add the blimey scoring elements into the computer system.For those who will still be junior next year, they can lobby to have a rule change to allow 3A as the solo axel in the junior ladies' SP passed at the 2020 ISU Congress that would become effective immediately with the 2020-21 season.
Quads are not allowed in senior ladies' or junior men's short programs either. Should all those groups protest? In ways that screw up the results of competitions they're competing in? Or outside of competition?
Should senior men lobby to allow quad-quad combinations in the SP even though no one has attempted such a feat in a freeskate to date?
I expect that any changes adding content to senior SPs wouldn't go into effect until 2022-23. But there might be bigger structural changes to the competition format on the table for that future era that would make the issue moot.
The rule change allowing 3A as the solo axel in the senior ladies' SP was voted on at the 2010 ISU Congress and went into effect immediately with the new post-Olympic season 2010-2011. (There were also other major changes that year including removal of the leveled spiral sequence/men's second step sequence.)
All true... but! 3A and quads in juniors' SP are not forbidden, or not allowed.... They are simply "not included"
thank you for the details, very interesting and well explained. while quads in SP is a discussion in itself (jr. and sr. ladies). The 3A in jr. ladies SP is by default allowed if in combination. So that means it is not forbidden as a jump. It makes little sense to not prohibit it in combo, but not have an option of 2A or 3A.info posted.
Yes, a 3A is the highest valued triple (the axel is the highest valued jump within any revolution category because it has an extra 1/2 rotation), and it is an essential element for men in order to place in a top spot unless most everyone else has rough skates, but there are seven elements in the SP and to maximize points, one needs to excel in all seven - level 4 spins, level 4 step sequence, and the most difficult jumps. Technically, to maximize points one would need a 3A, and a 4Lz, 4F and 4T, putting the 4T in combo with one of the other quads (assuming quad/quad combo is allowed).Even in the men's event, an axel is worth more than your average jump. You are required to perform an axel in the SP. Athletes have the discretion to avoid other weak jumps if they wish, but without a strong triple axel they cannot maximize points. Plus, now you can only repeat one quadruple jump in the LP. This means--again--that the only way to maximize points in the men's long program is to have a strong triple axel.
Alysa's crazy first half jump layout looks solid. Her extension has also improved dramatically over the last month.Alysa’s 3A+2T, 4Lz+3T, 4Lz, and 3A: https://www.instagram.com/p/B5p48XLJNLd/?igshid=1e98y9a7d7pl5
Technically, to maximize points one would need a 3A, and a 4Lz, 4F and 4T, putting the 4T in combo with one of the other quads (assuming quad/quad combo is allowed).