Actually, as of this year there are now bonuses at Junior level. But only for triple axels and quads, so not really relevant to ladies, perhaps with an occasional rare exception.All bonuses go away by the junior level.
Yes, that does seem to the thinking behind the bonus system.Disagree entirely. Before the bonus was implemented, a ton of novices were qualifying to nationals having only attempted good-quality double jumps, with a few having a couple of the easier triples. Why? Because it wasn't worth the risk to even attempt triples. That's not the way to become competitive with the rest of the world. The bonus system encourages attempting harder jumps and also recognizes that learning fully-rotated jumps takes progression. Usually, skaters land underrotated triples first and eventually get to the point where they can fully rotate.
I remember when IJS first started Russia had been giving bonuses at senior level (and probably to juniors as well -- I know nothing about their lower level competitions) for triple axels and quads, and for triple-triple combos for ladies.
Do they still do that? If not, when did they stop?
Was that one reason the Russian ladies program made such great strides in the past 10 years?
I've seen both approaches at my local rink.There are two schools of thought here. US coaches, in general, do teach the stand up on anything technique. Others teach the complete rotation first, then work on standing up.
Which they then lose in the fall deduction. Or, now, at novice and below, the fall deduction is smaller than the jump bonus, so actually they would be better off falling than having the jump downgraded << and no bonus/base value for the lower rotation jump. Assuming -5 GOE for rotated with fall or messy downgrade with no fall.My point is neither is inconsistent with giving a bonus to fully rotated jumps. Yes, novices made it to nationals with doubles, but that is because there was no bonus. Give the bonus to fully rotated jumps (land or fall) and the result will be skaters going for full rotation. When you give a bonus for < Skaters will pull out early to avoid a fall because they get the extra point.
If there's a bonus for < jumps, but also only 70% base value and -GOE, then mileage may vary whether it's more valuable to underrotate and stand up or to fully rotate and fall. Vs. just sticking to doubles with higher positive GOE. Coaches can do the math as to which is likely to net more points for their students based on what the students are more likely to actually achieve during competition.
But if their long-term goal is fully rotated triples without falls by senior level, then the strategy would be different than if their goal is to score as high as possible now and not expect to still be competing at all a few years later.