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I figured I would make a thread separate from the movie thread so that one doesn't get bogged down too much by various critics picks and awards discussion.
Every year, various critics groups and industry and other award bodies come together and announce their choices for the best of the year. It usually gets started around festival time in the late summer/early Fall where studios and distributors submit films that they believe will be awards fodder. Then a lot of buzz happens there and we can see how much they follow through towards Oscar.
Oscar is not the be-all-to-end-all and a lot of these groups are worthy awards in their own right, but award season has become such a sport in the past decade or so that all of these different groups are looked at as Oscar precursors. It starts out with Gotham (New York independent film awards) and the Independent Spirit Awards (the L.A. based group). Then various critics circles start their announcements with The National Board of Review always being the first and the National Society of Film Critics often being last (even after the Golden Globes some times).
The big critics choices I always pay attention to every year are The National Board of Review, The New York Film Critics Circle, Los Angeles Film Critics Association, and the National Society of Film Critics (not to be confused with the Broadcast Film Critics Association that does the televised Critics' Choice Awards) only because they've been around the longest and tend to contain some of the more respected published film critics.
With the critics' choices, I don't think a movie not being named hurts them for Oscar so much. I think what they really do is give smaller movies a fighting chance to be in the conversation. I do think they may create a backlash that savvy rival studios can exploit if one film ends up dominating the critics' choices and non-critics who see it don't understand what the fuss is about and get behind another movie to ensure that critical favorite doesn't win. IMO, it happened with Boyhood and The Social Network where they dominated all the critics awards and then Birdman and The King's Speech took advantage and took all the guild/industry awards including Oscar.
After the critics make their choices, then various awarding bodies start announcing their nominees and winners. The Golden Globes are made up of the Hollywood Foreign Press and people still don't quite know who makes up those members despite its official description as being made up of published journalists (not film critics or academics or filmmakers) from around the world. They have a shoddy history, but I have to say they've been making pretty good choices for the last few years and I've agreed with the GG more than Oscar these days.
Then you have all the guild awards that represent different facets of the Hollywood industry: Editors, Cinematographers, Writers, Actors, Directors, Producers, etc. Many of these members are also member of the Academy (Oscars) but they contain many more members (in the thousands) than are represented at the Oscars as they consist of the entire union membership of these guilds and often include television members. This is where you see the most overlap with the Oscars.
The British Academy Awards (BAFTA) have also become pretty good precursors as its membership may overlap with the Academy as well.
Last, the Oscars are made up of over 6000 members consisting of those who work in the industry, or used to work in the industry. Membership is invite only. Each member is supposed to be a representative of one of the branches of the Academy (sound, visual effects, actors, composers, writers, directors, editors, cinematographers, etc.). Each branch is responsible for picking nominees for their respective categories but the full membership picks the nominees for Best Picture. Once the nominees are out, then the full membership may vote for all of the categories with some exceptions (I think foreign film and documentary film categories can only be voted by members who attend special screenings of all of the nominees...at least it used to be that way).
Also worthy of note, Best Picture is voted on a totally different system than the other categories. Unlike the other categories, a winner isn't chosen by the nominee who has the most votes, which run the risk of a plurality winner rather than a majority winner. Rather, the Best Picture nominees are ranked by all members from 1st to whatever the last number is for that year and whichever film has the highest ranking from that system will win Best Picture (much like the figure skating ordinal system). That's may help explain why Moonlight won Best Picture but lost most other awards to La La Land or didn't sweep the other awards that La La Land did not win.
So as of today, here are some of the announced nominees/winners from various bodies. Anyone may feel free to update this thread with new lists as I won't be able to keep up-to-date as quickly as I probably should for a OP of a thread like this.
Gotham Awards
https://gotham.ifp.org/
* = winner
The Independent Spirit Awards
https://www.filmindependent.org/blog/drumroll-2018-film-independent-spirit-award-nominees/
The National Board of Review
Est. 1909. They consist of a select group of film enthusiasts, filmmakers, film professionals, and film academics. I'm not sure if it's the same group every year.
http://www.awardsdaily.com/2017/11/28/2017-national-board-review-winners/
The New York Film Critics Circle
Founded in 1935, the Circle’s membership includes critics from daily newspapers, weekly newspapers, magazines, and qualifying online general-interest publications. Every year in December the organization meets in New York to vote on awards for the previous calendar year’s films.
Every year, various critics groups and industry and other award bodies come together and announce their choices for the best of the year. It usually gets started around festival time in the late summer/early Fall where studios and distributors submit films that they believe will be awards fodder. Then a lot of buzz happens there and we can see how much they follow through towards Oscar.
Oscar is not the be-all-to-end-all and a lot of these groups are worthy awards in their own right, but award season has become such a sport in the past decade or so that all of these different groups are looked at as Oscar precursors. It starts out with Gotham (New York independent film awards) and the Independent Spirit Awards (the L.A. based group). Then various critics circles start their announcements with The National Board of Review always being the first and the National Society of Film Critics often being last (even after the Golden Globes some times).
The big critics choices I always pay attention to every year are The National Board of Review, The New York Film Critics Circle, Los Angeles Film Critics Association, and the National Society of Film Critics (not to be confused with the Broadcast Film Critics Association that does the televised Critics' Choice Awards) only because they've been around the longest and tend to contain some of the more respected published film critics.
With the critics' choices, I don't think a movie not being named hurts them for Oscar so much. I think what they really do is give smaller movies a fighting chance to be in the conversation. I do think they may create a backlash that savvy rival studios can exploit if one film ends up dominating the critics' choices and non-critics who see it don't understand what the fuss is about and get behind another movie to ensure that critical favorite doesn't win. IMO, it happened with Boyhood and The Social Network where they dominated all the critics awards and then Birdman and The King's Speech took advantage and took all the guild/industry awards including Oscar.
After the critics make their choices, then various awarding bodies start announcing their nominees and winners. The Golden Globes are made up of the Hollywood Foreign Press and people still don't quite know who makes up those members despite its official description as being made up of published journalists (not film critics or academics or filmmakers) from around the world. They have a shoddy history, but I have to say they've been making pretty good choices for the last few years and I've agreed with the GG more than Oscar these days.
Then you have all the guild awards that represent different facets of the Hollywood industry: Editors, Cinematographers, Writers, Actors, Directors, Producers, etc. Many of these members are also member of the Academy (Oscars) but they contain many more members (in the thousands) than are represented at the Oscars as they consist of the entire union membership of these guilds and often include television members. This is where you see the most overlap with the Oscars.
The British Academy Awards (BAFTA) have also become pretty good precursors as its membership may overlap with the Academy as well.
Last, the Oscars are made up of over 6000 members consisting of those who work in the industry, or used to work in the industry. Membership is invite only. Each member is supposed to be a representative of one of the branches of the Academy (sound, visual effects, actors, composers, writers, directors, editors, cinematographers, etc.). Each branch is responsible for picking nominees for their respective categories but the full membership picks the nominees for Best Picture. Once the nominees are out, then the full membership may vote for all of the categories with some exceptions (I think foreign film and documentary film categories can only be voted by members who attend special screenings of all of the nominees...at least it used to be that way).
Also worthy of note, Best Picture is voted on a totally different system than the other categories. Unlike the other categories, a winner isn't chosen by the nominee who has the most votes, which run the risk of a plurality winner rather than a majority winner. Rather, the Best Picture nominees are ranked by all members from 1st to whatever the last number is for that year and whichever film has the highest ranking from that system will win Best Picture (much like the figure skating ordinal system). That's may help explain why Moonlight won Best Picture but lost most other awards to La La Land or didn't sweep the other awards that La La Land did not win.
So as of today, here are some of the announced nominees/winners from various bodies. Anyone may feel free to update this thread with new lists as I won't be able to keep up-to-date as quickly as I probably should for a OP of a thread like this.
Gotham Awards
https://gotham.ifp.org/
* = winner
Best Feature
*Call Me by Your Name (Sony Pictures Classics)
The Florida Project (A24)
Get Out (Universal Pictures)
Good Time (A24)
I, Tonya (NEON/30WEST)
Best Documentary
Ex Libris – The New York Public Library (Zipporah Films)
Rat Film (MEMORY and Cinema Guild)
*Strong Island (Netflix)
Whose Streets? (Magnolia Pictures)
The Work (The Orchard and First Look Media)
Bingham Ray Breakthrough Director Award
Maggie Betts for Novitiate (Sony Pictures Classics)
Greta Gerwig for Lady Bird (A24)
Kogonada for Columbus (Superlative Films/Depth of Field)
*Jordan Peele for Get Out (Universal Pictures)
Joshua Z Weinstein for Menashe (A24)
Best Screenplay
The Big Sick, Emily V. Gordon and Kumail Nanjiani (Amazon Studios)
Brad’s Status, Mike White (Amazon Studios)
Call Me by Your Name, James Ivory (Sony Pictures Classics)
Columbus, Kogonada (Superlative Films/Depth of Field)
*Get Out, Jordan Peele (Universal Pictures)
Lady Bird, Greta Gerwig (A24)
Best Actor
Willem Dafoe in The Florida Project (A24)
*James Franco in The Disaster Artist (A24)
Daniel Kaluuya in Get Out (Universal Pictures)
Robert Pattinson in Good Time (A24)
Adam Sandler in The Meyerowitz Stories (New and Selected) (Netflix)
Harry Dean Stanton in Lucky (Magnolia Pictures)
Best Actress
Melanie Lynskey in I Don’t Feel at Home in This World Anymore (Netflix)
Haley Lu Richardson in Columbus (Superlative Films/Depth of Field)
Margot Robbie in I, Tonya (NEON/30WEST)
*Saoirse Ronan in Lady Bird (A24)
Lois Smith in Marjorie Prime (FilmRise)
Breakthrough Actor
Mary J. Blige in Mudbound (Netflix)
*Timothée Chalamet in Call Me by Your Name (Sony Pictures Classics)
Harris Dickinson in Beach Rats (NEON)
Kelvin Harrison, Jr. in It Comes at Night (A24)
Brooklynn Prince in The Florida Project (A24)
Breakthrough Series – Long Form
*Atlanta (FX Networks)
Better Things (FX Networks)
Dear White People (Netflix)
Fleabag (Amazon)
Search Party (TBS)
Breakthrough Series – Short Form
555 (Vimeo)
Inconceivable (YouTube)
Junior (Blackpills and VICE)
Let Me Die a Nun, (Vimeo)
*The Strange Eyes of Dr. Myes (YouTube)
The Independent Spirit Awards
https://www.filmindependent.org/blog/drumroll-2018-film-independent-spirit-award-nominees/
Best Feature
“Call Me by Your Name”
"The Florida Project"
“Get Out”
“Lady Bird”
“The Rider”
Best Director
Jonas Carpignano, “A Ciambra”
Luca Guadagnino, “Call Me by Your Name”
Jordan Peele, “Get Out”
Sean Baker, “The Florida Project”
Benny and Josh Safdie, “Good Time”
Chloé Zhao, “The Rider”
Best First Feature:
“Columbus”
“Ingrid Goes West”
“Menashe”
“Oh Lucy”
“Patti Cake$”
Best Female Lead
Salma Hayek, “Beatriz at Dinner”
Frances McDormand, “Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri”
Margot Robbie, “I, Tonya”
Saoirse Ronan, “Lady Bird”
Shinobu Terajima, “Oh Lucy”
Regina Williams, “Life and Nothing More”
Best Male Lead
Timothee Chalamet, “Call Me by Your Name”
Harris Dickinson, “Beach Rats”
James Franco, “The Disaster Artist”
Daniel Kaluuya, “Get Out”
Robert Pattinson, “Good Time”
Best Supporting Female:
Holly Hunter, “The Big Sick”
Allison Janney, “I, Tonya”
Laurie Metcalf, “Lady Bird”
Lois Smith, “Marjorie Prime”
Taliah Lennice Webster, “Good Time”
Best Supporting Male
Nnamdi Asomugha, “Crown Heights”
Armie Hammer, “Call Me by Your Name”
Barry Keoghan, “The Killing of a Sacred Deer”
Sam Rockwell, “Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri”
Bennie Safdie, “Good Time”
Best Screenplay
“Lady Bird”
“The Lovers”
“Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri”
“Get Out”
“Beatriz at Dinner”
Best First Screenplay
“Donald Cried”
“The Big Sick”
“Women Who Kill”
“Columbus”
“Ingrid Goes West”
Best Cinematography
“The Killing of a Sacred Deer”
“Columbus”
“Beach Rats”
“Call Me by Your Name”
“The Rider”
Best Editing
“Good Time”
“Call Me by Your Name”
“The Rider”
“Get Out”
“I, Tonya”
John Cassavetes Award
“A Ghost Story”
“Dayveon”
“Life and Nothing More”
“Most Beautiful Island”
“The Transfiguration”
Robert Altman Award
“Mudbound”
Best Documentary
“The Departure”
“Faces Places”
“Last Men in Aleppo”
“Motherland”
“Quest”
Best International Film
“A Fantastic Woman”
“BPM”
“Lady Macbeth”
“I Am Not a Witch”
“Loveless”
Piaget Producers Award
Giulia Caruso & Ki Jin Kim
Ben LeClair
Summer Shelton
Annual Kiehl’s Someone to Watch Award
Amman Abassi, “Dayveon”
Justin Chon, “Gook”
Truer Than Fiction Award
Shevaun Mizrahi, “Distant Constellation”
Jonathan Olshefski, “Quest”
Jeff Unay, “Cage Figher”
Annual Bonnie Award
So Young Kim
Chloe Zhao
Lynn Shelton
The National Board of Review
Est. 1909. They consist of a select group of film enthusiasts, filmmakers, film professionals, and film academics. I'm not sure if it's the same group every year.
http://www.awardsdaily.com/2017/11/28/2017-national-board-review-winners/
Best Film
The Post
Best Director
Greta Gerwig, Lady Bird
Best Actor
Tom Hanks, The Post
Best Actress
Meryl Streep, The Post
Best Supporting Actor
Willem Dafoe, The Florida Project
Best Supporting Actress
Laurie Metcalf, Lady Bird
Best Foreign Language Film
Foxtrot
Best Animated Feature
Coco
Best Documentary
Jane
Best Original Screenplay
Paul Thomas Anderson, Phantom Thread
Best Adapted Screenplay
Scott Neustadter & Michael H. Weber, The Disaster Artist
Best Directorial Debut
Jordan Peele, Get Out
Best Ensemble
Get Out
Breakthrough Performance
Timothée Chalamet, Call Me By Your Name
Spotlight Award
Top Ten Films
- Wonder Woman: Patty Jenkins and Gal Gadot, NBR Freedom of Expression
- First They Killed My Father, NBR Freedom of Expression
- Let It Fall: Los Angeles 1982-1992
Top Ten Independent Films
- Baby Driver
- Call Me By Your Name
- The Disaster Artist
- Downsizing
- Dunkirk
- The Florida Project
- Get Out
- Lady Bird
- Logan
- Phantom Thread
Top 5 Foreign Language Films
- Beatriz at Dinner
- Brigsby Bear
- A Ghost Story
- Lady Macbeth
- Logan Lucky
- Loving Vincent
- Menashe
- Norman: The Moderate Rise and Tragic Fall of a New York Fixer
- Patti Cake$
- Wind River
Top 5 Documentaries
- A Fantastic Woman
- Frantz
- Loveless
- Summer 1993
- The Square
- Abacus: Small Enough to Jail
- Brimstone & Glory
- Eric Clapton: Life in 12 Bars
- Faces Places
- Hell On Earth: The Fall of Syria and the Rise of ISIS
The New York Film Critics Circle
Founded in 1935, the Circle’s membership includes critics from daily newspapers, weekly newspapers, magazines, and qualifying online general-interest publications. Every year in December the organization meets in New York to vote on awards for the previous calendar year’s films.
Best Film: Lady Bird / Greta Gerwig
Best Director: Sean Baker / The Florida Project
Best Actress: Saoirse Ronan / Lady Bird
Best Actor: Timothée Chalamet / Call Me By Your Name
Best Supporting Actress: Tiffany Haddish / Girls Trip
Best Supporting Actor: Willem Dafoe / The Florida Project
Best Screenplay: Phantom Thread / Paul Thomas Anderson
Best Cinematography: Mudbound / Rachel Morrison
Best Animated Film: Coco (Lee Unkrich, Adrian Molina)
Best Foreign Language Film: BPM (Beats Per Minute) / Robin Campillo
Best Non-Fiction Film: Faces Places (Agnes Varda)
Best First Film: Get Out (Jordan Peele)
Special Award for Career Achievement: Molly Haskell
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