From Russia With Love (No 32): Spring to Summer 2019

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What's this about Med having health problems? It was mentioned in the Oksana Baiul thread.

https://fs-gossips.com/evgenia-medvedeva-i-wont-be-able-to-jump-for-a-long-time/
I will not deny that the season was tough for me. The year 2018 turned out to be a turning point. This season made me stronger greatly. Many things I treat with irony now. Where previously something offended me, it has now made me laugh, I can step over it and go further.
At the World Championships I skated with injury, I still can not jump. Now I almost don’t skate, and for a long time I won’t be able to jump.
In Moscow, I’m relaxing morally, meeting with friends. Sometimes we have to meet even at night. Nothing special, we walk, go to the cafes. – Medvedeva said during a meeting with her fans at Nike.
 

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So she was injured a big part of the Olympic season, she was injured before this past season, she is injured now in the off season...she seems to be injured quite often. I wonder how long her body can take it.
Injuries are such nasty things. One frequently leads to another. A pulled hamstring or a foot injury can lead to knee or hip problems. Unfortunately, speaking from personal experience.
 

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Injuries are such nasty things. One frequently leads to another. A pulled hamstring or a foot injury can lead to knee or hip problems. Unfortunately, speaking from personal experience.

Yeah, it does happen the way. You become "carefull" about the hurting body part and then you compensating body positioning the body differently and put more strain to the body.
 

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Yes, but eventually there will come time when the skater realises that the body can’t take it. E.g. when one month of training results in six months of healing... Medvedeva is facing uphill battle, with more and more Russian junior girls become senior eligible. I wouldn’t be surprised if she will retire before the next Olympics.
 

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Yes, but eventually there will come time when the skater realises that the body can’t take it. E.g. when one month of training results in six months of healing... Medvedeva is facing uphill battle, with more and more Russian junior girls become senior eligible. I wouldn’t be surprised if she will retire before the next Olympics.
It all must be so frustrating and disappointing for Medvedeva. As soon as her body changed, she immediately got injured. And it all snowballed from there.
 

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It's not the end of skating life for Medvedeva.... at the Worlds before the SP, during practice session, she pulled her hip, and was in pain. Then she fell (or abruptly stepped out) on an axel attempt (as per video recording by fan) and had to "catch herself" at the boards talking to Orser. It happens to all skaters...... really!

https://www.sport-express.ru/figure...nata-mira-2019-po-figurnomu-kataniyu-1526132/
– Мне сегодня было очень сложно, потому что испытывала сильную боль. На разминке перед короткой программой потянула бедро.
- It was difficult for me today, because i felt a strong pain. At the warm up before the SP i pulled my hip.

http://www.aif.ru/sport/winter/chm_v_saytame_zoloto_zagitovoy_bronza_medvedevoy_rekord_tursynbaevoy
- Как выяснилось, Медведева каталась с поврежденным на разминке бедром. Делала это через боль, но справилась.
- As it was discovered, Medevedeva was skating with an injury to the hip she received during warm-up. She skated in pain, but managed/handled it.
 

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It's not the end of skating life for Medvedeva.... at the Worlds before the SP, during practice session, she pulled her hip, and was in pain. Then she fell (or abruptly stepped out) on an axel attempt (as per video recording by fan) and had to "catch herself" at the boards talking to Orser. It happens to all skaters...... really!

https://www.sport-express.ru/figure...nata-mira-2019-po-figurnomu-kataniyu-1526132/
– Мне сегодня было очень сложно, потому что испытывала сильную боль. На разминке перед короткой программой потянула бедро.
- It was difficult for me today, because i felt a strong pain. At the warm up before the SP i pulled my hip.

http://www.aif.ru/sport/winter/chm_v_saytame_zoloto_zagitovoy_bronza_medvedevoy_rekord_tursynbaevoy
- Как выяснилось, Медведева каталась с поврежденным на разминке бедром. Делала это через боль, но справилась.
- As it was discovered, Medevedeva was skating with an injury to the hip she received during warm-up. She skated in pain, but managed/handled it.
but there could be the issue that if you have frequent injuries, one may have become afraid to skate.
 

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Yes, she handled it on that occasion. But skating with injury will eventually catch up on you. There is plenty of examples of that, e.g. Pogorilaya, Aliev.... the injuries will eventually win. No amount of strong will can overcome when the body doesn’t respond any more. I know this even from personal experience. I have never been an elite skater, only an adult skater. But I got a labral tear. It took about a year before it got diagnosed. And in the meantime I continued with skating. I knew I had a problem, I struggled but well, I still could skate so why not continue, if the doctors were taking their time figuring out what was wrong with me. Eventually I was not able to lift a leg even high enough to walk up the stairs - I had to grab my trousers to lift my leg manually with my hand! When I finally found a specialist who immediately knew what’s wrong, he arranged the surgery at a very short notice. He said it was surprising I still could walk. But I was still skating!
 

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Yes, she handled it on that occasion. But skating with injury will eventually catch up on you. There is plenty of examples of that, e.g. Pogorilaya, Aliev.... the injuries will eventually win. No amount of strong will can overcome when the body doesn’t respond any more. I know this even from personal experience. I have never been an elite skater, only an adult skater. But I got a labral tear. It took about a year before it got diagnosed. And in the meantime I continued with skating. I knew I had a problem, I struggled but well, I still could skate so why not continue, if the doctors were taking their time figuring out what was wrong with me. Eventually I was not able to lift a leg even high enough to walk up the stairs - I had to grab my trousers to lift my leg manually with my hand! When I finally found a specialist who immediately knew what’s wrong, he arranged the surgery at a very short notice. He said it was surprising I still could walk. But I was still skating!

Sorry to hear about this. Are you better now?
 

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but there could be the issue that if you have frequent injuries, one may have become afraid to skate.
Yes, she handled it on that occasion. But skating with injury will eventually catch up on you.
Yuzuru Hanuy gets injured if not every year, then practically every other year.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EMgMKDQ-2c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muERPPVdyN4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf1kuqVf5bk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjt6svDYlho
http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/BN-FL634_hanyu_G_20141109211814.jpg

And yet Orser manages to get him keep doing quads and even win or medal.....:p
https://img.kyodonews.net/english/public/images/posts/7aef50f7455a7f2664bda235c4118221/photo_l.jpg
 

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Sorry to hear about this. Are you better now?
No worries, one surgery and it was much better. But I could never jump again. Even though I was doing only single jumps before. I switched to solo dance even though I had always thought that ice dance is boring. But sometimes one needs to face the reality. If the body can’t take it, no amount of wanting will help. The same will be with elite skaters. Everyone has injuries from time to time, but when the injuries happen constantly and they are reoccurring, the results will eventually go downhill and the skater will have to face the reality.
 

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I know. And Pluschenko was skating with all sorts of extra material inserted in his body, to keep him functioning. I guess it depends on being lucky and have the sort of injuries that allow that. For example, if someone breaks the bone, it usually heals and doesn’t have long-term negative effect. If one tears ligaments, that can be easily career ending injury.
 

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I pulled a hamstring but never took any time off. In fact, didn't tell anyone. Mind over matter. Didn't want to lose the momentum, didn't want to disappoint my coaches, didn't want to let anyone down, and all that stuff that every athlete and dancer goes through when they are injured. Resulted in a nasty career-ending knee injury.
 

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I pulled a hamstring but never took any time off. In fact, didn't tell anyone. Mind over matter. Didn't want to lose the momentum, didn't want to disappoint my coaches, didn't want to let anyone down, and all that stuff that every athlete and dancer goes through when they are injured. Resulted in a nasty career-ending knee injury.

So of course the fed has known all about these issues and yet they supported her so that she could get world bronze, but left Tuktik off the world team? It's a real shame when skaters don't realize they're being used like pieces of meat. Intelligent people who understand that a competitive career is brief, would do themselves a favour and get out when the getting is good. I now have much respect for Lipnitskaya. I remember how quickly the fed wanted her to sign off on her retirement to bring the bad press to an end. Haha...Good for her.
 

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So of course the fed has known all about these issues and yet they supported her so that she could get world bronze, but left Tuktik off the world team? It's a real shame when skaters don't realize they're being used like pieces of meat. Intelligent people who understand that a competitive career is brief, would do themselves a favour and get out when the getting is good. I now have much respect for Lipnitskaya. I remember how quickly the fed wanted her to sign off on her retirement to bring the bad press to an end. Haha...Good for her.
The poster to whom you're replying is talking about HER OWN injury, not Medvedeva's.
Medvedeva's "pulled hip" happened AT the Worlds, during warm up, AFTER the Feds selected and sent her over Tuktamyseva.
Fed did NOT want Lipnitskaya to leave the sport, and supported her to move to Urmanov....

You're either a provocateur or... should not be leaving your house and crossing a street without a guardian..:rofl:
 

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So of course the fed has known all about these issues and yet they supported her so that she could get world bronze, but left Tuktik off the world team? It's a real shame when skaters don't realize they're being used like pieces of meat. Intelligent people who understand that a competitive career is brief, would do themselves a favour and get out when the getting is good. I now have much respect for Lipnitskaya. I remember how quickly the fed wanted her to sign off on her retirement to bring the bad press to an end. Haha...Good for her.
Nah, that's my story and has nothing to do with Med.
 

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Nah, that's my story and has nothing to do with Med.

It would have been better if I didn't quote you. :p:D But I sense Med doesn't know when it's time to stop making a point. Zagitova is out of reach and the next set of Eteri girls will also eclipse her. Time to bow out gracefully?
 

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The poster to whom you're replying is talking about HER OWN injury, not Medvedeva's.
Medvedeva's "pulled hip" happened AT the Worlds, during warm up, AFTER the Feds selected and sent her over Tuktamyseva.
Fed did NOT want Lipnitskaya to leave the sport, and supported her to move to Urmanov....

You're either a provocateur or... should not be leaving your house and crossing a street without a guardian..:rofl:

First if that's her (Med) story and there are no other underlying issues, well then Zagitova really has her beat because she hasn't looked strong for a good season now.

Around the time when her (Lip) eating disorder came out there was no support for Lipnitskaya. When things started to fall apart Plushenko was defending her honor in the press. TAT's comment was some stars just shine or a very short time. Maybe they said other things but in my gut I felt they were embarrassed of her story.
 

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Zagitova is 16 and already struggled this season with jumps, nerves, mental balance and many fans insisting on injury. Medvedeva didn’t have those issues at 16, so let’s see how Zagitova does at 19. Also you can’t be sure the young girls to pass Medvedeva Zagitova or even Tukt. They might do quads but they aren’t immune to injuries or later pressure like Zagitova has had such problems with.
 

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Just adding my two cents on injury. Lifestyle can make such a difference. A healthy balanced lifestyle not only in terms of food (so important) but also sleep, stress, etc can make us much more resilient. I was happy to read that Med is being followed by a nutritionist. Not saying it would 'save' everybody's body, but you would be surprised sometimes. So let's just wait and see.
 

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If! Alina brings Masaru to Japan, for her show, given what she said a few times, and the fact of Masaru's dress, seems, yes, Masaru will come out on the ice "and do something", maybe just for a photo op, or riding an ice-skate board... :D

Air Bud the basketball champion and the dogs who subsequently played Air Bud in the movies had very cute sets of red booties.

I'm sure that ice-appropriate footwear could be designed for Masaru. :p
 

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Just adding my two cents on injury. Lifestyle can make such a difference. A healthy balanced lifestyle not only in terms of food (so important) but also sleep, stress, etc can make us much more resilient. I was happy to read that Med is being followed by a nutritionist. Not saying it would 'save' everybody's body, but you would be surprised sometimes. So let's just wait and see.

Yes med is being looked after and she had to wait for her body to strengthen before she was allowed to jump as to protect the newly healed injury. She injured herself at worlds so again is not allowed to do much but the plan was for her to go to Moscow in between shows and look after her business commitments but alas no training now that she is hurt. Coaches are having end of season vacation and Brian is at her current show...Not sure what is planned next.
 

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Ilya Averbukh's show 15 Years of Success will be in Kazan on 24 April. Last week, one of the participants of this play on the ice, Olympic champion in figure skating Roman Kostomarov became a guest in Realnoe Vremya's studio. During the online conference, he answered many questions about the world of figure skating – about the failure of Russian men's singles, Olympic scandals and if Alina Zagitova should continue her career.
English version of the interview: https://realnoevremya.com/articles/3484-roman-kostomarov-as-realnoe-vremyas-guest
 

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I haven't seen this posted here earlier.

Another proof of how big figure skating is in Russia right now. Eteri Tutberidze was interviewed by "Russian Larry King" Vladimir Posner. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mTs3GwrMpg

Eteri was so flattered to have been invited that she was the nicest I have ever seen her in that interview. Posner was a disappoitment however. He was not engaged into the conversation whatsoever exept for the part where they spoke about the life in the US - their common ground, Posner grew up there. Clearly, it was not his idea to invite her (sometimes his guests are suggested by editors while Posner's preferred domain are academics, politicians, writers and philosophers because he is himself an intellectual in a way), but it is not an excuse to be unprofessional.

At the end of the interview, Posner asked her to name the greatest skaters of all time in each discipline. She abstained for the ladies, reiterated Boitano for men (I think she already gave his name earlier in an interview for the Golden Skate), named Berezhnaya/Sikharulidze in pairs and Papadakis/Cizeron in ice dancing. @allezfred will appreciate.
 
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Alina Zagitova's fan clubs are posting that as soon as Alina arrived back from Japan, she came to practice the next morning, and looks serious about the upcoming season.

However, she is now taking Masaru with her to the rink, as an emotional support animal, and while she skates, if Masaru needs to "go out", in order for Alina not to have to take off her skates, it is Eteri who takes care of Masaru (but does not like to be photographed doing it).
https://cdn.tribuna.com/fetch/?url=https://b.radikal.ru/b42/1904/2b/a6b01fe123d3.jpg
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Tutberidze's ice show in Krasnodar, Champions on Ice, will be aired on Russia Channel #1, on April 20th, live.
Here is the link to the show.
https://www.1tv.ru/sport/shou-eteri-tutberidze-chempiony-na-ldu/o-shou

Here is the link to "time count down", with a screen which will start the show.
https://www.1tv.ru/sport/shou-eteri-tutberidze-chempiony-na-ldu/pryamoy-efir

Ch#1 Advert on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fzOXnivph0

If it is geoblocked in your area, the videos will be posted shortly after.
 
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Thanks! This interview, with translation, has its own thread: https://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/th...e-tv-interview-with-v-posner-russia-1.105478/
I haven't seen this posted here earlier.

Another proof of how big figure skating is in Russia right now. Eteri Tutberidze was interviewed by "Russian Larry King" Vladimir Posner. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mTs3GwrMpg

Eteri was so flattered to have been invited that she was the nicest I have ever seen her in that interview. Posner was a disappoitment however. He was not engaged into the conversation whatsoever exept for the part where they spoke about the life in the US - their common ground, Posner grew up there. Clearly, it was not his idea to invite her (sometimes his guests are suggested by editors while Posner's preferred domain are academics, politicians, writers and philosophers because he is himself an intellectual in a way), but it is not an excuse to be unprofessional.

At the end of the interview, Posner asked her to name the greatest skaters of all time in each discipline. She abstained for the ladies, reiterated Boitano for men (I think she already gave his name earlier in an interview for the Golden Skate), named Berezhnaya/Sikharulidze in pairs and Papadakis/Cizeron in ice dancing. @allezfred will appreciate.
 
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