2019 Oscars Red Carpet & Ceremony - All Awards Lead To Roma

[VGThuy]

Spike Lee giving his version of a polite answer to two British journalists who asked him if Green Book offended him:

https://twitter.com/mxr_ly_/status/1099997938204508161

 

[smurfy]

I liked Crash too.

Other nominees that year:
Munich
Capote
Brokeback Mountain
Goodnight and Good Luck.

I was rooting for Goodnight & Goodluck or Munich.
I was never a fan of Brokeback Mountain, I thought it was ok, and it seemed to me some people LOVED that movie and would gush about it - so the pushback on Crash may have more to do with folks not happy another movie did not win ??

 

[Vash01]

I liked Crash too.

Other nominees that year:
Munich
Capote
Brokeback Mountain
Goodnight and Good Luck.

I was rooting for Goodnight & Goodluck or Munich.
I was never a fan of Brokeback Mountain, I thought it was ok, and it seemed to me some people LOVED that movie and would gush about it - so the pushback on Crash may have more to do with folks not happy another movie did not win ??

I would have placed Munich and Brokeback Mountain higher than Crash. I thought Crash was good but not enough to win the BP Oscar.

 

[Vash01]

I as thinking of the worst BP Oscars. This is purely based on my taste, and not necessarily critics’ opinions.

Moonlight (The worst ever, IMO)
Crash
Shakespeare in Love
No country for old men
Departed

Chicago (I was a bit hesitant about listing this, but IMO The Pianist was the best picture that year. I do understand why it did not win)

I may think of more later.

 

[PRlady]

I liked Crash too.

Other nominees that year:
Munich
Capote
Brokeback Mountain
Goodnight and Good Luck.

I was rooting for Goodnight & Goodluck or Munich.
I was never a fan of Brokeback Mountain, I thought it was ok, and it seemed to me some people LOVED that movie and would gush about it - so the pushback on Crash may have more to do with folks not happy another movie did not win ??

That was a good year for movies and I was rooting for Good Night and Good Luck. But Brokeback was a breakthrough movie culturally the way Black Panther was this year and it pissed off a lot of people when it didn’t win.

I really liked Munich as well, an underrated film.

 

[Tinami Amori]

Queen's music won Rami Malek his Oscar IMO.

I just think that there should be separate categories for "musicals", "biographies". A film biography of a dearly loved and famous person ads an element that has nothing to do with elements of cinematography, on which the films should be judged.

I didn't care for The Favourite, but I thought the acting was appropriate to the writing and that it was really good.

The story in the film is "very vaguely based" on recorded history about Queen Anne and her court, and on rumors which circulated at court at that time (which were somewhat documented). Some episodes in the film were a blunt invention, the tea poisoning never happened. So it is pretty much a "costume drama" with some good acting.

 

[VGThuy]

I just think that there should be separate categories for "musicals", "biographies". A film biography of a dearly loved and famous person ads an element that has nothing to do with elements of cinematography, on which the films should be judged.

I don't always agree with that because I think there have been some excellent musical biographical films where the actor really did an excellent job portraying a character with pathos and depth. What comes to mind is Sissy Spacek playing Loretta Lynn in Coal Miner's Daughter. Of course, to me, the most interesting parts were the first half where the film really showcased a level of American-style rural poverty that rarely gets shown in Hollywood film and her struggles with her marriage (at 15 though I think the movie said it was 13) and really being a child bride not understanding sex and where her pregnancies were coming from (the movie didn't delve into that part but it did delve into her unhappiness with spending almost her entire life having children). Once it got into more super stardom issues, I sort of felt it got formulaic, though even then her struggles were interesting.

 

[Tinami Amori]

I don't always agree with that because I think there have been some excellent musical biographical films where the actor really did an excellent job portraying a character with pathos and depth. What comes to mind is Sissy Spacek playing Loretta Lynn in Coal Miner's Daughter. Of course, to me, the most interesting parts were the first half where the film really showcased a level of American-style rural poverty that rarely gets shown in Hollywood film and her struggles with her marriage (at 15 though I think the movie said it was 13) and really being a child bride not understanding sex and where her pregnancies were coming from (the movie didn't delve into that part but it did delve into her unhappiness with spending almost her entire life having children). Once it got into more super stardom issues, I sort of felt it got formulaic, though even then her struggles were interesting.

I actually agree with you about Coal Miner's Daughter, and films like Walk the Line, Sid and Nancy, La Vie En Rose, few others, because the script is about personal lives of these artists. Bohemian Rhapsody, The Doors, etc., on the other hand are more like a documentary/a chronology of the band's/musician's professional side, the music and work of the artist/s, so the "art itself", if well liked, loved, admired, affects the the jury's opinion in Oscar selection.

 

[Parsley Sage]

Bradley and Gaga, WOW, just WOW. And they stood up to perform out of nowhere, no prep--having sat and watched the show all night.

Gaga left for 73 minutes to change her dress

https://variety.com/2019/film/news/oscars-what-you-didnt-see-on-tv-lady-gaga-spike-lee-1203148801/

"And early in the telecast, Lady Gaga got up and left for 73 minutes, but it turns out it was for a costume change before her performance of “Shallow.”

Earlier someone said that wearing a gold dress to the Oscars was a jinx. Turns out it's the luckiest colour for actresses to wear. Green is the unluckiest

https://fabukmagazine.com/the-luckiest-colour-dress-to-wear-at-the-oscars-revealed/

 

[Japanfan]

I actually agree with you about Coal Miner's Daughter, and films like Walk the Line, Sid and Nancy, La Vie En Rose, few others, because the script is about personal lives of these artists. Bohemian Rhapsody, The Doors, etc., on the other hand are more like a documentary/a chronology of the band's/musician's professional side, the music and work of the artist/s, so the "art itself", if well liked, loved, admired, affects the the jury's opinion in Oscar selection.

You're probably right that the work of the artist influences the jury's opinion of the film. It shouldn't be that way, but the nomination of films for various awards and final selection are never without bias, as everyone knows.

I'm unlikely to see a film about an artist unless I like that artist. If I had to see it because I was on the jury of nominating films or choosing a winter, I could not watch without bias.

 

[snoopy]

At the time, there was a FSU brouhaha over brokeback mountain versus crash that rivaled Roma versus bohemeian rhapsody.

 

[MacMadame]

I've never seen Crash but I saw Brokeback Mountain and I did not like it. I really disliked one of the main characters and that made it hard to enjoy the film.

 

[VGThuy]

I was one of Brokeback Mountain's champions on this forum and immensely disliked Crash's screenplay and handling of racial topics. That opinion hasn't changed in 15 years since.

 

[allezfred]

This is purely based on my taste, and not necessarily critics’ opinions.

Moonlight (The worst ever, IMO)

Your taste sucks. IMO.

You should be stanning that film given that Zagitova skated to its (brilliant) soundtrack for her SP last season.

 

[screech]

Late to the thread, but my thoughts...

LOVED Queen + Adam Lambert's opening, and the audience (especially Javier Bardem!) certainly did too. Adam Lambert is no Freddie, but I love that he doesn't try to be.

Loved Chris Evans being a gentleman and escorting Regina King to the stage after it seems her heel got caught in her dress. Not the first time he's done this (a few years ago he helped Betty White make her way to the stage). Can every awards show just hire him to gallantly offer his arm to winners? Only downside is that him being a gentleman took some attention away from her win.

Loved Samuel L Jackson and Spike Lee's moment on the stage. Was very happy for Rami, though his speeches, as genuine as his comments may be, do sound very rehearsed. But he definitely laid one (two) on his girlfriend/costar when his name was announced! Best moment of the night was Olivia Coleman's speech. Now THAT is someone who didn't expect a win. I loved her comments to Glenn in her speech (and Glenn was very gracious). I also loved that a movie about menstruation won an Oscar.

I don't think the show suffered at all from not having a host, but I think having a big opening musical number really helped in that. If they hadn't had Queen, I think it might have felt like it was missing something.
I also think Queen + Adam Lambert has just made a good case for themselves as a future Superbowl halftime show act.

My best dressed was Melissa McCarthy. That jumpsuit fit her like a dream, and I loved the cape.
Worst moment of the night - I forget which award it was (one of the early ones) but it had the three people reading off a page for their acknowledgements, and most of the speech was them prompting each other to speak. I'm a former elementary school teacher, and it made me think of watching kids, who clearly weren't prepared, presenting a group project.

Oh, and while I understand why some people really didn't want Green Book's wins, and the issues with the movie, I do think Spike Lee has been a brat about it.

 

[Rob]

I can't really think of a recent movie, other than Titanic, that I would put on the worst BP list. I once tried to watch some of the really old BPs and was totally bored by movies like the Great Ziegfeld, Broadway Melody, Greatest Show on Earth, a couple of the old westerns, etc. I think there are enough of them to fill my bottom 5 or 10.

 

[MacMadame]

I would agree with you, @Rob. There are plenty of movies I don't think should have won but that doesn't make them bad movies, just not as good as some other movie that didn't win.

 

[Simone411]

I enjoyed Bohemian Rhapsody and considered any liberties it took with the truth with a grain of salt. It did Freddie Mercury proud, and when the rest of the band was part of making it and was happy, two thumbs up.

I'm thrilled for Olivia Colman, she was amazing as Queen Anne, even if The Favourite can also be described as an acquired taste (I adored it). I do feel sorry for Glenn, but when she showed up all in gold my mind immediately went back to the Kwan haters in 2002 who dumped on Kwan mercilessly and gleefully after the Olympics claiming she wore a gold dress for "Fields of Gold" because she thought she had the Olympic gold medal locked up, yadda yadda, ad nauseum. I've come to the conclusion a gold dress is a jinx; whether it's in sports or other entertainment, and you're up for a potential win, DON'T WEAR GOLD!!!!

One thing about it, though, Michelle got her redemption for those that dumped on her at 2003 Worlds by winning Gold there. And Peggy Fleming said it best that Michelle brought us a break from the Worlds troubles and brought spirit back into the lives of so many. Thus she got to wear that beautiful Gold dress during her exhibition afterall.

Michelle Kwan - Fields of Gold 2003 Worlds Exhibition.

 

[MacMadame]

I read an article that said the data shows that Gold is not a jinx, but might even "help." I guess a higher percentage of gold dress wearing nominees won vs. nominees wearing other colors?

ETA here are some articles about it:

https://www.today.com/style/it-lucky-wear-gold-oscar-night-14-best-actress-winners-t108685

Something more generic about wearing gold:

https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/fashion/celebrity/g4906/celebrities-at-oscars-looking-like-oscars/

PS I thought of Michelle too at the time.

 

[VALuvsMKwan]

Some of you may well be interested in this story. Since all I really know about "Crazy Rich Asians" is what I have read here, I was not familiar with Constance Wu, nor did I know that her father is a professor at Virginia Commonwealth University in beautiful downtown Richmond.

https://www.wric.com/news/entertain...pecial-meaning-behind-oscars-dress/1813924658

 

[VGThuy]

Oscar nominee for Best Original Screenplay for First Reformed, Paul Schrader, most famous for writing the film Taxi Driver and Raging Bull, went back on Facebook after being requested by the film's studio to get off of it for while and had some things to say about what he learned from being a part of this past Oscar season. Most interesting was: he got "enmeshed in a process that made [him] care about awards [he] didn't even respect . . . and learned anew never to underestimate the power of mediocrity."

Ouch.

 

[cygnus]

I posted this a while back in the movie thread, but anyone interested in intelligent discussion of Oscar winning movies from a British/Irish point of view might like the podcast The Best Pick, which discusses every Oscar winning movie in random order (last one was Casablanca- next Gone with the Wind), putting it in context with the times and other movies of the year. Great fun. http://bestpick.libsyn.com/

 

[Winnipeg]

Bohemian Rhapsody should clearly have won BP and the best actor (at least it won one).


I thought Munich was underrated too

 

[chantilly]

Bohemian Rhapsody should clearly have won BP and the best actor (at least it won one).


I thought Munich was underrated too

Can’t agree with your first point in the least. It was barely a dramatic film over a concert film. And personally for me Rami was outacted by Viggo for sure and I’d also say Bradley Cooper, who IMO In all the brouhaha of the sinking of A Star is Born was overlooked, despite his nomination which he really deserved. Didn’t see Vice or Dafoe’s performance.

I agree with your last point, although I thought the very end was odd.

But Munich was Spielberg who won not long before, and there was definitely some controversy about the film’s subject matter.

 

[Foolhardy Ham Lint]

Gaga left for 73 minutes to change her dress

https://variety.com/2019/film/news/oscars-what-you-didnt-see-on-tv-lady-gaga-spike-lee-1203148801/

"And early in the telecast, Lady Gaga got up and left for 73 minutes, but it turns out it was for a costume change before her performance of “Shallow.”

Earlier someone said that wearing a gold dress to the Oscars was a jinx. Turns out it's the luckiest colour for actresses to wear. Green is the unluckiest

https://fabukmagazine.com/the-luckiest-colour-dress-to-wear-at-the-oscars-revealed/

I kind of wanted Close to wear a coat made out of 101 Dalmatians.

 

[Japanfan]

I kind of wanted Close to wear a coat made out of 101 Dalmatians.

You do realize this would require 101 dalmations to die?

 

[Foolhardy Ham Lint]

You do realize this would require 101 dalmations to die?

You do know I am being ironic here.

 

[Foolhardy Ham Lint]

One thing about it, though, Michelle got her redemption for those that dumped on her at 2003 Worlds by winning Gold there. And Peggy Fleming said it best that Michelle brought us a break from the Worlds troubles and brought spirit back into the lives of so many. Thus she got to wear that beautiful Gold dress during her exhibition afterall.

Michelle Kwan - Fields of Gold 2003 Worlds Exhibition.

Kwan's influence and star power is such, we still talk about her with fondness more than ten years since her retirement.

 

[VGThuy]

I kind of wanted Close to wear a coat made out of 101 Dalmatians.

Why not 102 dalmations like in the sequel? She needed an extra one to make it a hoodie, LMAO.

 

[screech]

Gaga left for 73 minutes to change her dress

https://variety.com/2019/film/news/oscars-what-you-didnt-see-on-tv-lady-gaga-spike-lee-1203148801/

"And early in the telecast, Lady Gaga got up and left for 73 minutes, but it turns out it was for a costume change before her performance of “Shallow.”

Earlier someone said that wearing a gold dress to the Oscars was a jinx. Turns out it's the luckiest colour for actresses to wear. Green is the unluckiest

https://fabukmagazine.com/the-luckiest-colour-dress-to-wear-at-the-oscars-revealed/

Really? Why? She went from one meh black dress to another meh black dress. The difference between the two dresses wasn't big enough, IMO, to require a wardrobe change (and neither were that spectacular IMO either). I barely noticed, other than thinking 'hmm, I thought her dress was strapless?' And really, 73 minutes to get out of one dress and into another? If she'd changed her hair, I could understand the amount of time, but really? I bet she was at the snack bar or something during that time too.

If I were ever nominated for an Oscar, no matter how lucky, I wouldn't wear gold (or a bold pattern). I'd want to wear a colour where the gold award would 'pop' when I hold it, either a dark neutral colour or a jewel-tone.