UPDATED: OMFG . . . Adam Rippon, Tonya Harding and Mirai Nagasu are on the DWTS' all-athlete cast

bardtoob said:
All I know is that Tonya, like her or not, always gives you a choice regarding whether or not to watch her. It is within your free will to choose whether or not to watch a clueless hot mess. At the end of the day, Tonya can continue telling the types of lies she tells because they are completely inconsequential to anybody else's life at this point and have probably kept her from committing suicide.
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Having seen the show, I'm thinking you are right. Life after skating is a tough transition for all skaters, and Tonya has less education than most and she couldn't be a coach or be a regular show skater. Whatever lies Tonya is telling is probably her coping mechanism to keep her sane, from spiralling into depression, etc.

I once had a job experience where I faced a harsh reality about my so so quality of work. When I realized my supervisor didn't think much of me, I did spiral into depression. Eventually I faced my demons and improved my work, but the emotional low for months on end was very hard to take, and I now see a lot of people, under similar situations, just go on denials and blame everyone but themselves, and people have a way of convincing themselves that their own version of events is the TRUTH. That denial stuff happens every day. Tonya's is just larger than life
 
alchemy void said:
Sentence of the month. :respec: I want this on a tshirt, or maybe a bottle of jesus juice.
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Thank you Void.

It is nice that one person under-stand's me on this web sight, but too many do not and the many positive messages about Tonia hardened criminal have made me think I should go away for a while. Instead I have joined Twitter, it is a great place to chat and discuss if you do not all ready know it. My name there is https://twitter.com/stasiya_love.
 
StasiyaGalustyanLove said:
Thank you Void.

It is nice that one person under-stand's me on this web sight, but too many do not and the many positive messages about Tonia hardened criminal have made me think I should go away for a while. Instead I have joined Twitter, it is a great place to chat and discuss if you do not all ready know it. My name there is https://twitter.com/stasiya_love.
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Don't let the pseud door hit you on the way out.
 
GullyGirl84 said:
I actually don't have any problem believing that Tonya does not follow skating anymore (I mean, there is a possibility that someone related to I, Tonya promotion could have mentioned Mirai and the triple axel), I actually believe her on this one. I think that she said on Ellen that she doesn't really follow skating anymore, it's not like US skaters are that famous. It's not like she's one of the former national champions who goes to nationals each year.
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It's probably healthier for Tonya NOT to follow the sport she got kicked out of back when most of the current champions were either not born yet or were very small children.
 
I love how he called it like it is. Some people in the skating community can't let it go but the growing general feel is time to move on already with the general population.

I kind of feel the same way. And given that Sasha may not be able to lift Tonya , highlight moves like a butt spin are going to be done... and how can you not enjoy that? lol
 
StasiyaGalustyanLove said:
Thank you Void.

It is nice that one person under-stand's me on this web sight, but too many do not and the many positive messages about Tonia hardened criminal have made me think I should go away for a while. Instead I have joined Twitter, it is a great place to chat and discuss if you do not all ready know it. My name there is https://twitter.com/stasiya_love.
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Well, my old pseud I had years ago, The Looney Tunes Fairy, might understand you. Or is it Looney Toons perhaps. I guess we'll never know for sure or not if The Looney Tunes Fairy understands you since the Fairy doesn't exist anymore. Oh well! o_O :whistle:
 
What skating shows? Tonya is a 47 year old, out of shape (for a normal 47 year old woman, no ..... for a pro skater, yes she is), still disliked skater who can land a couple of double jumps. I don't see anyone lining up for that. With her continued arrogant comments like "I DESERVE this!" and "I had everything TAKEN AWAY from me!" (uh, no Tonya, you lost it via your own actions), and still lying about things every time she opens her mouth, she's not helping her case.
 
BaileyCatts said:
What skating shows? Tonya is a 47 year old, out of shape (for a normal 47 year old woman, no ..... for a pro skater, yes she is), still disliked skater who can land a couple of double jumps. I don't see anyone lining up for that. With her continued arrogant comments like "I DESERVE this!" and "I had everything TAKEN AWAY from me!" (uh, no Tonya, you lost it via your own actions), and still lying about things every time she opens her mouth, she's not helping her case.
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Your tone seems very pointed right now.
 
BaileyCatts said:
What skating shows? Tonya is a 47 year old, out of shape (for a normal 47 year old woman, no ..... for a pro skater, yes she is), still disliked skater who can land a couple of double jumps. I don't see anyone lining up for that. With her continued arrogant comments like "I DESERVE this!" and "I had everything TAKEN AWAY from me!" (uh, no Tonya, you lost it via your own actions), and still lying about things every time she opens her mouth, she's not helping her case.
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You are basing your observations on the obscure skating fan (if I could think of a word more effective than obscure I would use it) most 47 year old women would kill to have Tonya’s physical abilities. Your dislike doesn’t give you the freedom to make up random fake facts to back up your opinions.
 
uhm .... it seems pretty direct to me.

oh, and you mean like Tonya's random fake facts that she makes up? Okay. And exactly what in my statement is "fake facts"? Those quotes are directly out of Tonya's mouth on her DWTS segment. I don't see a single random fake fact anywhere in my statement. Go ahead, point it out. Fact: she is 47 years old. Fact: she is out of shape for a pro figure skater. Fact: she is still disliked. Fact: she can only land a couple of double jumps. Fact: she said those exact statements; those quotes came directly out of Tonya's mouth. Fact: she still lies. So where exactly are the 'random fake facts' again?
 
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BaileyCatts said:
uhm .... it seems pretty direct to me.

oh, and you mean like Tonya's random fake news that she makes up? Okay. And exactly what in my statement is "fake news"? Those quotes are directly out of Tonya's mouth on her DWTS segment.
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Other than you claiming that compared to a “normal” 47 yo women Tonya is out of shape? You can call her a liar, faker, whatever you feel like she is but when you make a generalization like that at least provide the facts to back it up.

Plus saying “compared to a pro skater” isn’t a good comparison when Tonya never had that opportunity, regardless of her own fault when it comes to that.
 
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Posting a-g-a-i-n .......

oh, and you mean like Tonya's random fake facts that she makes up? Okay. And exactly what in my statement is "fake facts"? Those quotes are directly out of Tonya's mouth on her DWTS segment. I don't see a single random fake fact anywhere in my statement. Go ahead, point it out. Fact: she is 47 years old. Fact: she is out of shape for a pro figure skater. Fact: she is still disliked. Fact: she can only land a couple of double jumps. Fact: she said those exact statements; those quotes came directly out of Tonya's mouth. Fact: she still lies. So where exactly are the 'random fake facts' again?
 
BaileyCatts said:
Posting a-g-a-i-n .......

oh, and you mean like Tonya's random fake facts that she makes up? Okay. And exactly what in my statement is "fake facts"? Those quotes are directly out of Tonya's mouth on her DWTS segment. I don't see a single random fake fact anywhere in my statement. Go ahead, point it out. Fact: she is 47 years old. Fact: she is out of shape for a pro figure skater. Fact: she is still disliked. Fact: she can only land a couple of double jumps. Fact: she said those exact statements; those quotes came directly out of Tonya's mouth. Fact: she still lies. So where exactly are the 'random fake facts' again?
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Well if we are comparing U.S. skaters of the past. Names like Cohen and Hughes come to mind, when they last skated professionally they didn’t even bother with jumps no? Are there any direct examples of her contemporaries landing more than a “couple double jumps” at said age? I’m not calling Tonya a patron saint but at least provide examples.
 
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