I don't think the criteria was meant to be gamed such that a super senior that never had technical content necessary to put him in medal contention could discourage the rise of a Jr. Skater (ie a skater that have a whole senior career after Nathan) who has the physical capacity to do competitive content.
No, they don't. If they did, then they would have treated him like Vincent in 2018 and "built for the future".
Here's another Russian articleWell this Russian article from Sports-Express is certainly going to stir the pot in its Malinin vs. Brown selection analysus. They believe that Malinin's peak skating ability based upon his scoring trails only Chen and Hanyu, so they are highly critical of the USFS on that basis for not supporting its 17-year old prodigy. Especially for selecting the inferior Brown as his "swan song" instead.
Американцы не пустили русскоязычного юниора на Олимпиаду. «Выразительный» образ победил четверные?
Концепция «позитивной дискриминации» в действии.www.sport-express.ru
Here's the final paragraph where the Russian author doesn't hold back on his views on the bias in the selection process:
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If Jason Brown skated at 2018 Nationals the way he did 2021, he most likely would have made the team. Especially with all the calls Vincent got. The tech panel hammered him worse than at the Olympics. The truth was that Brown skated his way out of contention and out of the top 5 into 6th place at Nationals while Vincent did the senior GP and although didn’t set the world on fire, he scored very close to what Adam and Jason were scoring. Different situations and different BOWs at play here.
I attribute it to a kind of xenophobia that fetishizes Americans with "exotic" looks or "foreign" names.I'm not sure why some posters are suggesting it's a good idea for him to throw a temper tantrum and leave the US, miss the Olympics AND 2 years of skating, only to resurface in another country and have to reestablish himself in a new environment w. new coaches, etc. Really smart move
I never indicated that it was a moral issue. So don't ascribe such to my comments.
and once again ilia more than likely didnt have the opportunity to
I don't know how many people were in the decision-making, but I wouldn't be surprised if it ended up being like a 4-3 split or something on who to choose.
Misha Ge was a (IMO) mediocre skater who managed to place top 6 at Worlds, skating for Uzbekistan. So it's safe to assume that a superior Malinin could surpass that, if he chose to do switch.
If, god forbid, I was USFS, I'd have Jason do the SP and Nathan the FP. If not Nathan, then Vincent FP. If he has one of his good skates, Vincent is the better bet for the FP over Jason, who consistently nails a high scoring SP.The only thing I can think is that there must be some discussion going on with regard to the TE and whether or not Nathan can skate it. Maybe the plan is to use Jason in the SP because Nathan's ongoing hip injury has caused Team Raf to reevaluate his participation in the TE. I suppose if everyone else bombs their SP then Jason could win that segment.
Maybe not having his minimums was another issue
The Selection Criteria left the Selection Committee with no choice. As long as Brown finished in the top three and Chen, and Zhou finished in the top five, they had to be selected because they had higher international scores than Malinin.
Once again how is a young skater suppose to have body of work.
And also giving up a sure medal at Junior Worlds.
A lot of skaters look like they were on downward trends only to peak at the Olympics so you never know. All I know is that you don't ignore the scores Vincent can achieve, has achieved multiple times. He's the only other for sure medal contender when he's on. We all know Vincent bombed 2 out of 3 Worlds trips but he also did well at the Olympics and one other Worlds, where he medaled. Ilia Malinin will be battling to overcome Jason Brown's PCS and GOEs internationally and his last international senior competition was poor with 4 rotation calls and much lower scores than Brown and Vincent has scored on the senior level. People love harping on Vincent's past scores and performances but they're totally ignoring Malinin's past scores this past season as well.
Was the last.time that happened in 2010, four Olympics ago? And in 2006 they accepted Kwan's petition. Arutunian has since said that there were days she could practice, and days she could show up and barely do laps. She had also had a weak third in 2004 and was off the podium in 2005, so she wasn't coming in as a reignig medalist, let alone champion.
I guess not surprising, but good lord. And leave Timothy's greenhouse out of it!Well this Russian article from Sports-Express is certainly going to stir the pot in its Malinin vs. Brown selection analysus. They believe that Malinin's peak skating ability based upon his scoring trails only Chen and Hanyu, so they are highly critical of the USFS on that basis for not supporting its 17-year old prodigy. Especially for selecting the inferior Brown as his "swan song" instead.
Американцы не пустили русскоязычного юниора на Олимпиаду. «Выразительный» образ победил четверные?
Концепция «позитивной дискриминации» в действии.
Here's the final paragraph where the Russian author doesn't hold back on his views on the bias in the selection process:
Crazy how the quickly that journalist is citing their sexual orientation and gender identity. For those who hate "identity politics" they're always the first to invoke identity to undermine the credibility of someone's placement. It happens all the time to POC or other minorities students in elite universities or those who reach certain promotions within big corporate settings, but they're the ones who get accused of playing the "race" or whatever "card" or invoke identity politics when they push back in some way or advocate for themselves.Well this Russian article from Sports-Express is certainly going to stir the pot in its Malinin vs. Brown selection analysus. They believe that Malinin's peak skating ability based upon his scoring trails only Chen and Hanyu, so they are highly critical of the USFS on that basis for not supporting its 17-year old prodigy. Especially for selecting the inferior Brown as his "swan song" instead.
Американцы не пустили русскоязычного юниора на Олимпиаду. «Выразительный» образ победил четверные?
Концепция «позитивной дискриминации» в действии.
Here's the final paragraph where the Russian author doesn't hold back on his views on the bias in the selection process:
But (deserved or not), Jason did not finish in the top 3. And the scores were not even close. Also, Jason had higher international scores because Ilia was competing junior, meaning he wasn't able to reach the same scores. Yes, he had one international senior event and skated poorly, but that's ONE event compared to the multiple that everyone else got.
You can blame that on Jason Brown, too, because he would have dropped out of Group 3, had he placed 6th like he did in 2018. You might argue that the only reason they held Nationals was to see if Jason Brown wouldn't fail.
Except for the fact that Malinin absolutely does have his minimums for the Olympics. It’s the world championships, which has a higher standard, that he is missing the minimum short program score for.
Michelle Kwan was fourth in the worlds the year prior. And barely missed the podium. She was a 5 time world champion. She was also coming in that season as the reigning senior national champion.
Why are people upthread saying he didn’t have them?
Ilia had one JGP season under his belt from 2019.
