#TeamTrainwreck 23: Perky through the ages!

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SamuraiK said:
Panfilova & Rylove are really nice but I cant feel an once of hearbtreak for a team that does not get triples.. Junior charity / Ted Brown softy aprroach this aint. Not sorry.
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Well that's most US teams, but then none of them are on the team either
And he can do them, so there's that
And her throw triples are excellent
 
It would be the most TTW thing ever for Talalaikina to get denied skating for Italy...

And also Gubanova apparently is going to represent Georgia, not Armenia? :gallopin1

However, that is good news for our girl Galustyan, if true.
 
SmallFairy said:
Such drama :gallopin1 Why would they not want her? They’ve taken all kinds of skaters in the past. From France, Czech Republic…
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How many of them were Singles skaters? The first two Singles skaters I can think of are Samuel Contesti, whose wife had Italian citizenship, and Ivan (Bariev) Righini, whose mother had Italian citizenship. Anyone else?

It appears that acquiring Italian citizenship through naturalization is a very lengthy process, so Talalaikina might never be able to represent Italy at the Olympics, no matter how much her Personal Bests may improve.
 
Vagabond said:
It appears that acquiring Italian citizenship through naturalization is a very lengthy process, so Talalaikina might never be able to represent Italy at the Olympics, no matter how much her Personal Bests may improve.
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There is an Italian law that allows citizenship "for exceptional contribution to the country".
Charlène Guignard received Italian citizenship in 2013 via this route, partly so she could attend the 2014 Olympics. At the time, she and Marco were certainly not going to challenge for medals or even top-10 placement (17th at Worlds in 2013, 9th at 2014 Euros). It's possible that Talalaikina may qualify under the same rule. Charlène had been living in and competing for Italy since late 2009 and has an Italian skating partner though, which may have had an impact on the process.

More info here: http://www.artonice.it/?q=en/node/13807

ETA: this is my first time posting in the #TeamTrainwreck thread, I hope that's okay!
 
Vagabond said:
How many of them were Singles skaters? The first two Singles skaters I can think of are Samuel Contesti, whose wife had Italian citizenship, and Ivan (Bariev) Righini, whose mother had Italian citizenship. Anyone else?

It appears that acquiring Italian citizenship through naturalization is a very lengthy process, so Talalaikina might never be able to represent Italy at the Olympics, no matter how much her Personal Bests may improve.
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Paul Bonifacio Parkinson (who skated at Sochi) from Canada thanks to his Italian mother.

Italy have a "citizenship by special merit" exception too. A presidential decree would be needed. It was used in late 2013 for Charlene Guignard.
I don't think they would do it for Talalaikina now. May do it for 2026 if she is needed.
 
GoneWithTheWind said:
There is an Italian law that allows citizenship "for exceptional contribution to the country".
Charlène Guignard received Italian citizenship in 2013 via this route, partly so she could attend the 2014 Olympics. At the time, she and Marco were certainly not going to challenge for medals or even top-10 placement (17th at Worlds in 2013, 9th at 2014 Euros). It's possible that Talalaikina may qualify under the same rule. Charlène had been living in and competing for Italy since late 2009 and has an Italian skating partner though, which may have had an impact on the process.

More info here: http://www.artonice.it/?q=en/node/13807

ETA: this is my first time posting in the #TeamTrainwreck thread, I hope that's okay!
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Welcome, @GoneWithTheWind It's more than just okay that you're posting here. It's great!

As an ice dancer, Guignard provided her Italian partner with an opprotunity to compete internationally and at the Olympic level that he would not otherwise have had. A foreign-born Singles skater is in an altogether different situation, as she might be taking a spot at ISU Championships away from an Italian.

SmallFairy said:
Karel Zelenka from Czech Republic skated singles. Contesti was the other one I thought of…
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Zelenka and his family moved to Italy when he was six, so he was probably a citizen by the time he competed internationally for Italy.
alchemy void said:
And how quickly we forget Nikol Gosviani switching from Russia to Italy... only to place 4th at 2015 Italian Nationals. :gallopin1 :drama:
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Like Contesti, Gosviani was already married to an Italian when she switched.
 
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Vagabond said:
Zelenka and his family moved to Italy when he was six, so he was probably a citizen by the time he competed internationally for Ital.
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A friend of mine from our former club used to go to Mishin's and Kudriavtsev's camps in Switzerland back in the days and that was how she actually got to know Zelenka.
I remember she told me that Zelenka wasn't sent to some competition (2005 Euros?), because he was "not really Italian" despite having the citizenship and they preferred to have a "real Italian" dude there so that was why Paolo Bacchini was sent that particular year after all.

ETA: According to wikipedia, Karel Zelenka got his Italian citizenship in January 2006.
 
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