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Please see my subsequent response as to the very unlikely veracity of this with respect to the trimetazidine statement.And sketchy technique.
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Please see my subsequent response as to the very unlikely veracity of this with respect to the trimetazidine statement.And sketchy technique.
For instance, if he used a different finger than marked, a Canadian teacher would say, "oh, dear John, I see you have used a different finger that marked in the sheet. Of course I want you to have complete freedom to decide what finger to use. Do whatever feels comfortable to you. Just please consider that maybe this notation here is for a good reason, and when the tempo picks up, you may find yourself in difficulty because the finger you're using now won't be as comfortable. Would you like to try playing as written? Just to see. "
Yes, that is exactly what my teacher friends say. They have to create an alternative message for the communication to the parents, not the kids.I've never actually heard an American teacher speak that way. I don't know about Canadian. Yes, we do email parents the way you're describing because a subset of American parents lose their mind if you send them an email that says "hey, junior is playing video games instead of coming to school" so teachers have developed ways to talk to parents. It's not the way we talk to kids.
Why is this a US/Rus thing? A Russian won the ladies, an American won the men. They both did quads. Why is this a poor reflection on the US because none of their women does quads?
Please see my subsequent response as to the very unlikely veracity of this statement about American female skaters using trimetazidine. The technique is open to criticism. They are mutually exclusive.
Was the CAS ruling just specific to the Olympics? Can the ISU refuse her participation in Worlds?
My reading of the CAS decision was that it was very narrow, and limited to her participation at the Olympics. Since the ISU is the sponsoring body of Worlds, it would be up to them to suspend/ban Valieva (or the entire Russian Skating Federation) if they wished. Even if RUSADA refused to take any further action. Which of course the Russians would appeal to CAS. Under a different panel, they might or might not prevail again.I can't believe CAS didn't limit the suspension of her suspension to just the period covered by the Olympics. There will be no "irreparable harm" from missing Worlds. It's not an every-four-year event.
My reading of the CAS decision was that it was very narrow, and limited to her participation at the Olympics. Since the ISU is the sponsoring body of Worlds, it would be up to them to suspend/ban Valieva (or the entire Russian Skating Federation) if they wished.
THE CAS AD HOC DIVISION PUBLISHES THE ARBITRAL AWARD ISSUED IN THE ARBITRATION PROCEDURES RELATING TO FIGURE SKATER KAMILA VALIEVA (Feb. 17, 2022)
Full decision of CAS OG 22/08 IOC v. RUSADA / CAS OG 22/09 WADA v. RUSADA & Kamila Valieva / CAS OG 22/10 ISU v. RUSADA, Kamila Valieva & ROC (41 pages): https://www.tas-cas.org/fileadmin/user_upload/OG_22_08-09-10_Arbitral_Award__publication_.pdf
The CAS ruling explicitly covered her Olympic participation only, because of the tight time factor. I saw nothing in their explanation that would prevent the ISU from imposing other consequences on a skater or federation. Whether the ISU has the stones to tangle with Russia, and the willingness to fight another battle at the CAS level, is the question. Past actions suggest the ISU does not have the intestinal or ethical fortitude to do so.If the IOC, as the sponsoring body of the Olympics, didn't have the right to suspend Valieva from the Olympics, why would the ISU be able to suspend her from worlds?
That's probably the next step. Assuming that Valieva is on the entry list I would assume that the ISU would bring another appeal to the CAS.Is it even possible for the ISU to do anything or challenge her participation at Worlds until the official competitor lists are turned in by each federation? Until and unless the RFSF submits Valieva as an entry or an alternate, the ISU has nothing it can take to CAS, right?
True, and the ISU argued for suspension in the case before the CAS and lost.If the IOC, as the sponsoring body of the Olympics, didn't have the right to suspend Valieva from the Olympics, why would the ISU be able to suspend her from worlds?
The time factor wasn't the only issue. The CAS also found that the rules regarding provisional suspension were different for protected persons. That ruling is equally applicable to competitions besides the Olympics.The CAS ruling explicitly covered her Olympic participation only, because of the tight time factor. I saw nothing in their explanation that would prevent the ISU from imposing other consequences on a skater or federation. Whether the ISU has the stones to tangle with Russia, and the willingness to fight another battle at the CAS level, is the question. Past actions suggest the ISU does not have the intestinal or ethical fortitude to do so.
But didn't WADA determine that CAS did not correctly apply the rules?The time factor wasn't the only issue. The CAS also found that the rules regarding provisional suspension were different for protected persons. That ruling is equally applicable to competitions besides the Olympics.
That was in WADA's statement re the CAS ruling.But didn't WADA determine that CAS did not correctly apply the rules?
The CAS ruling explicitly covered her Olympic participation only, because of the tight time factor. I saw nothing in their explanation that would prevent the ISU from imposing other consequences on a skater or federation. Whether the ISU has the stones to tangle with Russia, and the willingness to fight another battle at the CAS level, is the question. Past actions suggest the ISU does not have the intestinal or ethical fortitude to do so.
I've wondered if the symbolic sanctions western countries will impose on Russia will include witholding all athlete visas...Another way to prevent Valieva and/or Eteri at Worlds, is for France to deny them visas (or rescind existing visas).
The ISU cited the Ukraine situation as a reason for not making a decision yet on 2022 Jr Worlds (halfway down this communication…”Season 21/22 ISU Championships”):Will there be travel issues due to the war between Russia and Ukraine?
Aren't Russians already banned (over doping, I believe) The Russian ban is why we have the ROC. I believe the Russian Flag is not present at the Olys.“Russia” or Russians? Because “Russia” is not here because of actions of government employees! No one has proved government employees or Putin had anything to do with this! Yet! Many people support banning all Russian citizens from Olympics for 10 years! That would have been great. But pretty much every sports organization opposes banning all Russian citizens as something that could end lots of sports in Russia and damage clean athletes! But maybe it is time for that. No russian citizen in any sport anywhere for 10 years. Nothing -except in Russia of course
HUH? That is odd.The ISU cited the Ukraine situation as a reason for not making a decision yet on 2022 Jr Worlds (halfway down this communication…”Season 21/22 ISU Championships”):
Decisions of the ISU Council - International Skating Union
The ISU Council met on February 24, 2022 via an online meeting.www.isu.org
Phil Hersh just tweeted about the crud having a further impact on ISU activities but not yet on traveling to and from events. I guess it is just a wait and see. But he did comment in another tweet about how silly we were to think that WW3 would start in the Middle East. I replied that with respect to either region, it's still about the oil.Will there be travel issues due to the war between Russia and Ukraine?
Aren't Russians already banned (over doping, I believe) The Russian ban is why we have the ROC. I believe the Russian Flag is not present at the Olys.
HUH? That is odd.
didn't see this one yet. thx for posting.The ISU cited the Ukraine situation as a reason for not making a decision yet on 2022 Jr Worlds (halfway down this communication…”Season 21/22 ISU Championships”):
Decisions of the ISU Council - International Skating Union
The ISU Council met on February 24, 2022 via an online meeting.www.isu.org
Really no women outside of Eteri's camp are landing quads in competition these days. It's basically Eteri's camp versus the rest of the world.Why is this a US/Rus thing? A Russian won the ladies, an American won the men. They both did quads. Why is this a poor reflection on the US because none of their women does quads?
This is all so confusing. I would think if a skater is banned, then she is banned.Is it even possible for the ISU to do anything or challenge her participation at Worlds until the official competitor lists are turned in by each federation? Until and unless the RFSF submits Valieva as an entry or an alternate, the ISU has nothing it can take to CAS, right?
Or, maybe Petaluma, Cal. We have a full-size rink nearby....It is The Snoopy Rink.Perhaps the ISU was poised to announce Belarus as the new Jr Wds host? That would be seen as a political no-no…close ally of Russia. Or Estonia? That one not so controversial but too close for comfort?
Or, maybe Petaluma, Cal. We have a full-size rink nearby....It is The Snoopy Rink.
That's not true. Sofia Samodelkina (Davydov), Veronika Zhilina (Plushenko), and Anastasia Zinina (Plushenko) all landed quads on the JGP this past fall.Really no women outside of Eteri's camp are landing quads in competition these days. It's basically Eteri's camp versus the rest of the world.