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So does Canada innit.Spain has a long history with doping
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What country doesn’t have a long history with doping at this stage though?
So does Canada innit.Spain has a long history with doping
Everyone talks about Berezhnaya but Evgeny Sviridov also got suspended at the same time.I can think of four senior women skaters (five if you include Kyoko Ina) who have had drug testing issues.
How many senior men skaters have had these issues?
It's the combination of sunburn, and cold temperatures.Is there a reason why skiers get lip blisters but not skaters? They are both in cold environments.
So does Canada innit.
What country doesn’t have a long history with doping at this stage though?
Sometimes it's the cases where the stakes are smallest is where cheating of any kind is most rampant. (Same with politicking in sports.)A steroid is an unconditional dope, but what is the point of using it in this case? To take 11th place? Moreover, from the very beginning it was clear that she would not be among the leaders. All this is doubtful.
The supplement industry is pretty powerful too. When there was legislating being proposed to regulate them more, they got people to write letters to Congress saying not being able to get certain supplements would be medically damaging. I forget the exact phrasing but it was something about taking supplements that aren't manufactured by big companies.Decades ago, supplements were largely exempted from regulation in the US. The regulation of drugs and food is much more strict. There are a number of problems with supplements not containing exactly what is on the label, or having additional ingredients not on the label. The chance of ever getting this regulatory gap fixed is (IMHO) slim and none. Any athlete taking this stuff runs the risk that they will ingest a banned substance.
If WADA wanted to switch to using hair samples, they could just say if you can't provide a hair sample, you are presumed guilty. That's what they do for urine samples now. And then people wouldn't shave all their hair anymore.If after an initial urine test comes back positive-in-trace-amounts, it would be helpful if WADA then had the ability to test hair (or maybe something else?) that could distinguish between a 1-time contaminant/incidental contact and continued use of higher doses over time. Yes, people can shave most of their body, but would they really remove all of their hair (nose, eyebrows/lashes, etc.)? There has to be a better way to test the athletes because otherwise, there will always be an excuse and a "well, you can't prove it" defense.
Bhutan?What country doesn’t have a long history with doping at this stage though?
The Federated States of Micronesia?Bhutan?![]()
It seems harsh, but if you want (semi)clean sport, then yes. There are countless drugs that can be performance-enhancing, including many that wouldn't initially seem to be likely candidates.It is and it isn't. It kind of gets to why the anti-doping rules can't depend on national regulatory regimes, including whether drugs require prescriptions or are over-the-counter. Athletes have to be informed and careful, but is it at this point asking too much of them?
Or is the occasional torment of a Jessica Calalang or possibly in this case Laura Barquero necessary "collateral damage?"
I have done some research and found no record of any athletes from Vatican City being disqualified for doping in any Olympic Sport.The Federated States of Micronesia?![]()
Ah, because "they" hushed up the "holy water" incidents.I have done some research and found no record of any athletes from Vatican City being disqualified for doping in any Olympic Sport.
I have done some research and found no record of any athletes from Vatican City being disqualified for doping in any Olympic Sport.
I believe they sell buttons at the gift shop that read, "The Pope Don't Dope".Ah, because "they" hushed up the "holy water" incidents.
OT: @Hedwig: "Ein Grab für zwei" by Anne Holt. I find it very interesting. Didn't know it was obviously inspired a bit by a real case.Off topic: Which novel is ghat? Sounds interesting- good read?
Re Barcquero- I hope this is solved soon and ruled as a mistake.I like this pair very much and it would be a sad thing for Spanish skating if it were true.
If after an initial urine test comes back positive-in-trace-amounts, it would be helpful if WADA then had the ability to test hair (or maybe something else?) that could distinguish between a 1-time contaminant/incidental contact and continued use of higher doses over time. Yes, people can shave most of their body, but would they really remove all of their hair (nose, eyebrows/lashes, etc.)? There has to be a better way to test the athletes because otherwise, there will always be an excuse and a "well, you can't prove it" defense.
Someone in one of these threads about the matter (There are so many of them that I cannot find it at the moment) linked a summary about doping history in figure skating. There was a quote regarding Sochi which made me think about Bukin, though he was not mentioned related to that case.Bukin is supposedly another, since he was not given an invite to the 2018 OWG.
Can double bleaching be detected? If so, they'd likely prohibit it as a masking agent.Apparently double bleaching your hair removes pretty much all traces of whatever might be in it
I don't know, but I don't believe WADA do anything other than urine testing at the moment so it's probably a moot point, but if they did ban bleach as a masking agent for hair tests that would mean athletes wouldn't be able to colour (or at least lighten) their hairCan double bleaching be detected? If so, they'd likely prohibit it as a masking agent.
Thank you.According to Marca, Barquero used Trofodermin for the blade cut between her fingers.
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Una crema por el corte con un patín, causa del positivo de Laura Barquero
La madrileña, a la espera del contraanálisis, tendrá que demostrar que no hubo culpa para rebajar una sanción de cuatro añoswww.marca.com
This is the same ointment which gave the 18 month suspension for Therese Johaug.
Some people have very few? I don't think I've any detectable nose hairs.Could drugs be detected in nose hairs? They wouldn't be bleached or removed, right?
I have spent more time than I care to admit watching hilarious videos of barbers using this black hair removal stuff in nostrilsCould drugs be detected in nose hairs? They wouldn't be bleached or removed, right?
If it worked I think it is less private than having to pee in a cup a person you don't even know is holding for you....Some people have very few? I don't think I've any detectable nose hairs.
I feel like asking for hair is problematic - athletes might be bald, female figureskaters generally shave/wax their armpits, cyclists often their legs, regulating hair on people's private parts seems weirdly icky, and so forth.
Could it be used as a voluntary double test? idk.
everyone pees, at least!