2019 Oscars Red Carpet & Ceremony - All Awards Lead To Roma

[Rob]

I think Gaga's first black dress was for standing on the red carpet with the exaggerated hips. Maybe a little too stiff on the sides for the performance. And there are always wardrobe malfunctions risks with strapless. I actually liked the second one better anyway.

 

[chantilly]

She also probably had to touch up hair and makeup.
Possibly get out of her spanx for singing.
Who knows.
It takes them hours to get ready for these events.

 

[MacMadame]

And really, 73 minutes to get out of one dress and into another? If she'd changed her hair, I could understand the amount of time, but really? I bet she was at the snack bar or something during that time too.

My understanding from a friend who would work as a "seat holder" is that once you leave your seat, you can't be let back in except at certain controlled times. Like during commercials.

That could make a 5 minute bathroom break into a 20-30 minute absence. So it probably lengthened her absence too.

 

[chantilly]

Yeah totally forgot about the seat filler thing.

 

[MacMadame]

I think it would be so cool to be a seat filler at the Oscars!

 

[VGThuy]

So Steven Spielberg may be proposing a ban on all Netflix and other streaming services films from being eligible for Oscars moving forward. I hear so much back-and-forth about preserving the theatrical experience and letting stream-only films be eligible for Emmys instead vs. the difficulty many filmmakers of color and women from having a chance to compete in Hollywood and having streaming services like Netflix help their films actually get "widely distributed" and seen as theater tickets are so expensive and theaters will not be playing their movies nor will they get funding to have them distributed there.

I think streaming is more accessible by a big way and allows more movies to be seen than ever before at affordable prices. I think it's the future and they're just fighting a natural evolution of film watching:

I think this thread speaks for me:

https://twitter.com/franklinleonard/status/1101888967694200832

I also can't help but think there's financial interest from movie theater chains that is behind this fight.

 

[Foolhardy Ham Lint]

I also can't help but think there's financial interest from movie theater chains that is behind this fight.

This reminds me of the US Supreme Court antitrust case that, (according to Wikipedia), decided the fate of movie studios owning their own theatres and holding exclusivity rights on which theatres would show their films.

 

[Japanfan]

So Steven Spielberg may be proposing a ban on all Netflix and other streaming services films from being eligible for Oscars moving forward. I hear so much back-and-forth about preserving the theatrical experience and letting stream-only films be eligible for Emmys instead vs. the difficulty many filmmakers of color and women from having a chance to compete in Hollywood and having streaming services like Netflix help their films actually get "widely distributed" and seen as theater tickets are so expensive and theaters will not be playing their movies nor will they get funding to have them distributed there.

I think streaming is more accessible by a big way and allows more movies to be seen than ever before at affordable prices. I think it's the future and they're just fighting a natural evolution of film watching:

Adding Netflix to our monthly cable bill is not affordable for us and I don't want to give up cable. Our bills are really hard to manage already. I feel manipulated into getting Netflix, and I resent it.

We already get a lot of movies On Demand, and I'd like it to stay that way. We do pay $5.00 per movie, but I think Netflx is at least $10.00 a month? We don't buy two movies every month.

Also there is difference between watching films on the small TV screen versus and the big theater screen.

Maybe the Oscars could introduce a new category for streaming movies - though I doubt the Academy would be so inclined.

I also can't help but think there's financial interest from movie theater chains that is behind this fight.

Sure, but Netflix also has financial interests.

 

[VGThuy]

Is it more manipulative than having to see a movie in the theater? Where I live, seeing one movie is about $17.00 depending on the theater. I pay $13.99 a month for Netflix and the cheapest plan is $7.00/mo so I do get your point about having to pay and now that Amazon and Netflix are making movies their movies will only be available on their services most likely like television channels (like if you wanted to watch a show or tv movie on HBO/Cinemax/Showtime/etc. you had to buy a package to include all of those channels) as opposed to theatrically-released movies where you can buy/rent from anywhere. So I get feeling like you're being strong-armed. But whether you're paying $5.00 to rent one movie, paying about $12-20 for a movie ticket, or a monthly $7.00 streaming subscription to watch unlimited movies, either way, you're paying

Of course, people can usually easily find any movie they want on certain websites that may provide free streaming though it may come with ads and malware if you're not careful.

Anyway, whether one feels being strong-armed to buy Netflix I think is sort of off topic as to whether they should be banned from Oscar consideration. Right now, Netflix is following the rules for eligibility for the Oscars (and Emmys). Making it more cumbersome may have consequences for non-internet streaming independent films that barely make the qualifications as well as they won't get wide theatrical distribution until AFTER they get awards consideration (if any).

 

[Jay42]

I think it's incredibly short sighted to change the rules to prevent Netflix from being competitive for the Oscars. Generally speaking a lot of people are cutting their cable bills and going to streaming services because it's more affordable. Going to a movie theatre is a tremendous amount of effort for many people, parents, people with disabilities, people who don't have a ton of money. Streaming services are affordable and easy to use. The thread you posted @VIETgrlTerifa also makes an excellent point, Netlflix in consistently putting out content directed by women and people of colour and running awards campaigns for them. To get that from a major studio is nearly impossible.

 

[Japanfan]

Is it more manipulative than having to see a movie in the theater?

It is to me, because I'm paying more to watch things on the small (smaller) television screen, when we're already paying quite a bit for cable already.

I don't see movies in the theater very often, but when I do, I don't mind paying the price of a ticket to enjoy the big screen experience. And usually coffee with a friend I don't see often afterwards, so it's a bit of an occasion.

Where I live, seeing one movie is about $17.00 depending on the theater. I pay $13.99 a month for Netflix and the cheapest plan is $7.00/mo so I do get your point about having to pay and now that Amazon and Netflix are making movies their movies will only be available on their services most likely like television channels (like if you wanted to watch a show or tv movie on HBO/Cinemax/Showtime/etc. you had to buy a package to include all of those channels) as opposed to theatrically-released movies where you can buy/rent from anywhere. So I get feeling like you're being strong-armed. But whether you're paying $5.00 to rent one movie, paying about $12-20 for a movie ticket, or a monthly $7.00 streaming subscription to watch unlimited movies, either way, you're paying

No, I'm not being strong armed. I'm being realistic about our financial capabilities and obligations. Mr. Japanfan has only received a .03% pay increase in about ten years and my income as a self-employed person is not keeping pace with inflation (nowhere even close).

Adding $167.88. a year isn't much to a lot of people, but it would be unwelcome to us at this point in time.

I can choose to spend $5.00 to rent a movie or $13 to see a film in the theater ($17 is a lot in my view) or not, but if I subscribe to Netflix, I'm locked in.

Now, it might be worthwhile if we watched a lot of movies, but in truth there aren't a whole lot of movies that I want to see.

However, we may break down at some point.

Of course, people can usually easily find any movie they want on certain websites that may provide free streaming though it may come with ads and malware if you're not careful.

We have a friend who sense us some series sans ads/malware.

 

[made_in_canada]

I haven’t been to a movie theatre in well over a year. I don’t even have to pay for the ticket it’s just so much more pleasant to watch at home. Partly that’s our movie theatre that totally sucks (uncomfortable seats, freezing cold, generally only ever show blockbusters I’m not interested in), but partly it’s just a lot more convenient to watch at home and most movies are available digitally fairly shortly after they’re released in theatre anyway. We do have a projector system that means we have a mini big screen but I think even if we didn’t we’d be more likely to stay home. That’s without even considering Netflix.

I do appreciate Netflix though and I’m not sure I see the logic in excluding them from Oscar/Emmy contention. It’s just growing pains of a changing industry. Things change with changing technology and I don’t think it’s helpful to resist, you have to adapt. They do tend to produce much more diverse stories than major studios and if they make something worthy of consideration for awards more power to them.

 

[annie720]

I don't see movies in the theater very often, but when I do, I don't mind paying the price of a ticket to enjoy the big screen experience. And usually coffee with a friend I don't see often afterwards, so it's a bit of an occasion.

Exactly. We're going out in the snow later today to see Free Solo on the big screen when we could see it free on the National Geographic channel tonight. For this movie, I can't imagine the experience would be the same watching it on TV.

 

[clairecloutier]

I agree with @VIETgrlTerifa and @Nell411 that streaming films should be allowed in the Oscars because they enable accessibility, diversity, creativity, so much more than mainstream Hollywood films ever could. Maybe Spielberg has the financial and prestigious clout to get a more serious or quirky or interesting film made and released in mainstream theaters, but most filmmakers don’t have this luxury. Streaming provides a way to support those voices.

As a family with 2 kids, we rarely go to the movies, because when we do, it’s around $50, which is enough to discourage going, except to films that we really really want to see. So we’ve been seeing maybe 3 family movies a year together. For my husband and I to go by ourselves, it’s an expensive night out, paying $60 or $70 for babysitting, then movie tickets and food on top of that. As a result, this year we saw Black Panther (ETA and Crazy Rich Asians) in the theater and that was it.

I’m bothered about rising costs of various subscription services like Netflix, but for us, it’s still a far more cost-effective way to access content than going to movies. The moviegoing experience in our area has become higher-quality, but more expensive. Lounge seats, wider aisles, assigned seating, makes it a very comfortable and nice experience in the theater, but you pay more for those amenities.

 

[VGThuy]

I just read that Glenn Close's passion project of bringing her Tony-award winning role as Norma Desmond in the Andrew Lloyd Weber Sunset Boulevard musical on the big screen has been green lit and will start production in October. I wonder if this will be the vehicle to get her an Oscar. For my other musical theater fans, isn't the show sort of...boring? I'm not quite familiar with it (familiar with the original film) other than two songs, one of which I love's Close's rendition of.

 

[morqet]

I just read that Glenn Close's passion project of bringing her Tony-award winning role as Norma Desmond in the Andrew Lloyd Weber Sunset Boulevard musical on the big screen has been green lit and will start production in October. I wonder if this will be the vehicle to get her an Oscar. For my other musical theater fans, isn't the show sort of...boring? I'm not quite familiar with it (familiar with the original film) other than two songs, one of which I love's Close's rendition of.

The secondary plot of the relationship between Joe & Betty is quite dull and feels like a distraction from the main point of the show. But the parts focusing on Norma contain some of ALW's most interesting & challenging work. I saw Glenn Close in it when there was a brief revival with the ENO in London in 2016 and she blew me away.

 

[Vash01]

I am one of the lucky ones. Even though ticket prices at movie theatres have become almost affordable to families, in my city there are many cheaper options. Morning shows are anywhere from$5.50 to 7.00 I think. AMC cinema offers the A-list option where you pay $20 per month and you can see up to 3 movies per week. As a single person I pay less than $3 per movie. There is also a less expensive old theatre (but it has digital sound, etc. only the seats are old) that sells movie tickets for $3.50 ($2.50 on Tuesdays).

I subscribe to Netflix, which helps me watch movies that I missed or just old movies, while still going to theatres frequently. During summer I usually stick with Netflix unless there is a really good movie in a theatre. If I see just one movie per week in a theatre, I can still more than recover my $20 fee for the month.

So if you have AMC theatres in your city, I highly recommend the A-list. Also Costco has somewhat cheaper movie tickets. It is better to use that at $8.50 instead of $14 at the theatre (these are our local prices for Harkins theatres).

I can understand why large families would rather watch most movies on Netflix, and make only an occasional trip to a movie theater.

It seems grossly unfair to ban Netflix and amazon movies from the Oscars. Can they be sued for unfair trade practices?

 

[VGThuy]

I am one of the lucky ones. Even though ticket prices at movie theatres have become almost affordable to families, in my city there are many cheaper options. Morning shows are anywhere from$5.50 to 7.00 I think. AMC cinema offers the A-list option where you pay $20 per month and you can see up to 3 movies per week. As a single person I pay less than $3 per movie. There is also a less expensive old theatre (but it has digital sound, etc. only the seats are old) that sells movie tickets for $3.50 ($2.50 on Tuesdays).

So I subscribe to Netflix, which helps me watch movies that I missed or just old movies, while still going to theatres frequently. During summer I usually stick with Netflix unless there is a really good movie in a theatre. If I see just one movie per week in a theatre, I can still more than recover my $20 fee for the month.

So if you have AMC theatres in your city, I highly recommend the A-list. Also Costco has somewhat cheaper movie tickets. It us better to use that at $8.50 instead if $14 at the theatre (these are our local prices for Harkins theatres).

I can understand why large families would rather watch most movies on Netflix, and make only an occasional trip to a movie theater.

It seems grossly unfair to ban Netflix and amazon movies from the Oscars. Can they be sued for unfair trade practices?

I think so long as any movie meets the theatrical requirements the Academy Awards have had forever, then they'll be eligible no matter if it goes straight to Netflix after playing like 14 days in a theater in L.A. and New York, which are the current rules (something like that). For Documentaries and short subjects and such, where most of the nominees have no chance in hell in receiving a wide release, these rules plus a rule where they don't play in theaters but won awards through approved festivals before being distributed on Netflix allows them to be eligible. I do think some sort of theatrical run should be required as otherwise, they should be considered TV movies and only be eligible for Emmy Awards, but I think changing the rules to make them more onerous as a targeted approach to attack Netflix films is misguided and will have consequences for many smaller films outside the Netflix model.

 

[snoopy]

I think sunset boulevard is annoying more than boring.