U.S. Ladies [#21]: Wrapped Up with a Neat Little BOW

[Sasha'sSpins]

You expect skaters to be familiar with the operas they use? I saw one skater (forget who) STAB herself during Tosca. Tosca jumps out a window. Unless she was portraying Scarpia, which would be weird.

OT, but I can totally see Evgenia portraying Tosca jumping out of a window! Many hate her melodramatic miming but not I! I LOVE it!

Back to Karen, Avanta took yet another unseemly swipe at Karen on their Instagram while dropping their sponsorship. Karen is the one who has been classy throughout this nonsense. As a parent I sure as heck would NEVER buy my kid's boots from that company! They are completely unprofessional.

 

[NAOTMAA]

I'd like to see Evgenia dare and try and outdo Irina's hair pulling

 

[VGThuy]

I'd like to see Evgenia dare and try and outdo Irina's hair pulling

I'd imagine she'd go all Daria Panenkova. Med is committed.

https://youtu.be/YwqNIXQEntY?t=251

 

[olympic]

I'd like to see Evgenia dare and try and outdo Irina's hair pulling

No. That was shaking bees out of her hair

 

[Elisheba]

I'd love to see Evgenia do either Tosca OR Turandot. Miming stabbing a fool, unintentionally shooting a guy, jumping out of a window or just beheading a lot of dudes. Evgenia could do the operatic miming we deserve.

 

[berthesghost]

Yes please! Although med emotes all the way up to the cheap seats, I have no clue what she’s miming. It’s like someone yelling at you in a foreign language. Reminds me of Irina and how we’d spend days all trying to figure out why she was feeding chickens in the middle of her lp only to find out from an interview she was dealing cards.

 

[nimi]

Although med emotes all the way up to the cheap seats, I have no clue what she’s miming. It’s like someone yelling at you in a foreign language. Reminds me of Irina and how we’d spend days all trying to figure out why she was feeding chickens in the middle of her lp only to find out from an interview she was dealing cards.

LOL

Off-topic, but does somebody know what's up with Kaori doing the "I'm milking cows" hand movements in her Amelie FS? I've seen the movie but I don't remember any cows or milking so I presume it's supposed to portray something else.

To bring it back to US ladies, congrats to Ting Cui for getting a PB @ JWC! (62.22)
Didn't find the vid on YT yet but Jackie has her jumps in gif form: https://twitter.com/rockerskating/status/972099518002016256

 

[VGThuy]

Congratulations to Ting Cui whose TES showed to be competitive in that stacked juniors field.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

Congratulations to Ting Cui whose TES showed to be competitive in that stacked juniors field.

AMAZING.why do you think her pcs are that low? Emmy has higher PCS and she is in 16th.

 

[Sylvia]

To bring it back to US ladies, congrats to Ting Cui for getting a PB @ JWC! (62.22)
Didn't find the vid on YT yet

Her SP video is blocked on YT in the U.S. - here's an alternative version: https://streamable.com/8jp0b

7 Q Ting CUI USA 62.22 36.33 25.89 6.61 6.21 6.54 6.54 6.46 0.00 #26
...
16 Q Emmy MA USA 52.78 26.47 26.31 6.50 6.39 6.50 6.68 6.82 0.00 #34
Such a beautiful performer who truly feels her music! (as Peggy would say ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BycAsBb5Zq0
Her 7th highest PCS is well deserved, IMO (and could have been higher).

 

[nimi]

Her SP video is blocked on YT in the U.S. - here's an alternative version: https://streamable.com/8jp0b

Thanks @Sylvia!

Emmy MA (...) Such a beautiful performer who truly feels her music! (as Peggy would say )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BycAsBb5Zq0
Her 7th highest PCS is well deserved, IMO (and could have been higher).

Haven't watched her performance yet but will soon... I noticed browsing through Jackie's live tweets that he also thought she was somewhat underscored:

another example of senior-level quality components, Ma should be getting 8s and 9s in interpretation here (but won't)

 

[Tinami Amori]

Reminds me of Irina and how we’d spend days all trying to figure out why she was feeding chickens in the middle of her lp only to find out from an interview she was dealing cards.

given that Irina's programme and music was "Queen of Spades", a very famous piece of music and the story line, and her costume had Big Cards on the corset, towards which she reached before "dealing", obviously all those who thought that she is feeding chickens are retards....
https://mjeangarcia.files.wordpress...aya_2005worlds_qual_grigory_dukor_reuters.jpg

 

[Debbie S]

AMAZING.why do you think her pcs are that low? Emmy has higher PCS and she is in 16th.

I think Ting (and You Young) would have gotten higher PCS if they skated in the last 2 groups.

What is the criteria for drawing in the last 2 groups? World ranking or some other formula? Ting only competed once on the JGP (Brisbane this season) so she hasn't accumulated the scores the girls in the last 2 groups have.

 

[alchemy void]

obviously all those who thought that she is feeding chickens are retards....

Lovely.

 

[Tinami Amori]

Lovely.

What's "lovely" is the fact that in a topic discussing problems, serious ones at that, with US ladies' skating, it's always unavoidable to take swipes at the Russians, as if it helps the US ladies much (not)....

 

[Sylvia]

What is the criteria for drawing in the last 2 groups? World ranking or some other formula? Ting only competed once on the JGP (Brisbane this season) so she hasn't accumulated the scores the girls in the last 2 groups have.

Yes, ISU World Standings ranking - I included the WS # next to the Ladies SP starting order in the Kiss & Cry section (if those with access are interested): https://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/th...rivia-2018-junior-worlds.103568/#post-5323872
The ladies in the first 3 groups had no WS ranking.

 

[Tavi]

What's "lovely" is the fact that in a topic discussing problems, serious ones at that, with US ladies' skating, it's always unavoidable to take swipes at the Russians, as if it helps the US ladies much (not)....

In case you’re not aware, use of the word “retards” is considered offensive by many people.

 

[Tinami Amori]

In case you’re not aware, use of the word “retards” is considered offensive by many people.

50% of english language words today are offensive to "many people"... heck, asking someone out on a date is an "unwanted advance" and "you look good in that dress" is body-typing... don't worry, you'll get over it.

 

[Tavi]

50% of english language words today are offensive to "many people"... heck, asking someone out on a date is an "unwanted advance" and "you look good in that dress" is body-typing... don't worry, you'll get over it.

I gave you a piece of information. What you choose to do with it is up to you.

 

[Tinami Amori]

I gave you a piece of information. What you choose to do with it is up to you.

how the "society" chooses to treat "inconvenient" words/phrases now will create a huge back-lash, if taken too far.

 

[Tavi]

how the "society" chooses to treat "inconvenient" words/phrases now will create a huge back-lash, if taken too far.

I’ve noticed that you are a very kind person to people and animals in need.

Perhaps if you focused on the pain and prejudice that people with severe mental disabilities experience, and that their families often can’t prevent, you might understand that it’s not just a matter of out of control political correctness. But this is really off the topic of this thread.

 

[Frida80]

I love this ignore feature. There's a whole conversation going on and all I see are @Tavi classy responses.

 

[alchemy void]

I’ve noticed that you are a very kind person to people and animals in need.

Perhaps if you focused on the pain and prejudice that people with severe mental disabilities experience, and that their families often can’t prevent, you might understand that it’s not just a matter of out of control political correctness. But this is really off the topic of this thread.

Thank you for stating this far more eloquently than I ever could. I appreciate it.

I do apologize for derailing the thread.

Anyways, SO impressed with Cui today. All the elements were strong but I really appreciated the attack and speed she carried through everything. Can't wait to see her long tomorrow.

Ma was rewarded well on PCS, she's a gorgeous skater and really emoted well, but unfortunately no 3-3 just isn't competitive these days.

 

[Aerobicidal]

Hate speech is not problematic because it's un-PC. It's also not problematic because it's inconvenient. It's problematic because people with different abilities, genders, sexualities, races, religions, etc. deserve to be treated with respect. Any argument to the contrary is blatantly inconsistent with any conception of justice, ethics, morality, or democracy that I believe is valid.

The "argument" that Americans are obsessed with political correctness = it's necessary or great to purposefully use un-PC words no matter how hateful they are is fallacious. (For clarity, I'm not saying using hate speech should be illegal, but it's definitely not laudable.) By that "logic," it would be totally fine for people to call me a faggot, or to call my dad and his relatives kikes, or . . . etc.

Despite the fact that I am an evil, godless leftist, I do think political correctness in America deserves to be questioned and criticized. I think that haters (and by that I do not mean people who offer reasoned critiques of Meagan Duhamel's skating skills or Shoma Uno's pre-rotations) should be free to express their hate in whatever language they want to. But I think that it's important that such hate speech is called what it is, and criticized, and subverted, and etc.

"Retard" is hate speech. As to whether that's okay on FSU, that's not up to me. I don't think it should be illegal or censored in general; it does seem to violate the site's rules, but I'm not in charge of interpreting those. Hateful provocations backed up with sophistic "responses" to rational arguments do piss me off, however, and that's the end of my rant.

On topic: I hope Bradie Tennell gets two artistically impressive and mature programs next season.

 

[vesperholly]

Ting Cui was great! I loved her angular arm choreo. Nice redemption after her disastrous SP at Nationals.

 

[Marco]

I love Emmy Ma's skating and she does skate like a 6.0 senior lady. Now that Ashley is retired (I think?), Emmy pretty much takes the title for the most musical and polished US lady there is. Too bad her technical content is not going to get her far at all. I hope she lands enough triples to at least stay relevant and in the scene for a few years. I hate Phantom as skating music but love her free program.

I also love Cui Ting's spunk. Huge 3/3. That's how a Rippon is supposed to be done. (That 3rd Russian girl had the ugliest tano ever) I will try to watch the version with music later tonight.

 

[cbd1235]

Sigh, it's going to be a low year in 2018-2019, definitely lacking any stars. Time to rebuild for USFS.

I'm sure going to miss Ashley and Gracie dearly. If Mirai retires, despite her lack of starpower beyond the skating, she's a star in our hearts. I'll miss her.

If this is the end of Ashley's incredible career (and it really looks like it is), I'm still sad about how it ended for her.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

Holy Moly!!!!! with Trusova now scoring a free skate score that will take down Zagitova I have no idea where US Ladies will fare for the next quad....

 

[Sylvia]

Congrats to Ting CUI for landing 7 clean triples in her FS today! 2A+3T, Rippon 3Lz-half loop trip/fall (so no 3S), 3Lo / 3F-half loop-3S(added!), 3F+2T, 2A, 3S - all triples were solid with + GOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJMXm3VbF5A

7 Ting CUI USA 118.17 65.16 54.01 6.82 6.50 6.79 6.79 6.86 1.00 #16
19 Emmy MA USA 87.20 40.24 48.96 6.21 5.96 5.89 6.25 6.29 2.00 #8 (10th highest PCS)

Final standings:
7 Ting CUI USA 180.39 7 7
19 Emmy MA USA 139.98 16 19

 

[Tinami Amori]

Ting CUI has quality. She has the right built, lightness, moves well and a good posture.