GP 2016-17 Pre-Announcement Thread

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A lot of this depends on whether there are any rule changes, but if the rules are the same as last year, the following skaters and teams are guaranteed spots for GP or are eligible for selection, with the additional caveat that there are still Gardena Spring Trophy this weekend and Team Challenge Cup the following weekend. WTT counted towards SB's; only Ladies and Men could count towards the SB list, as singles will compete both SP and FS, while Pairs and Dance teams will only compete in the free. (Their FS/FD scores might count towards World TES minimums.)

Men:

Top 12 from Worlds, guaranteed two:
  1. Javier FERNANDEZ
  2. Yuzuru HANYU
  3. Boyang JIN
  4. Mikhail KOLYADA
  5. Patrick CHAN
  6. Adam RIPPON
  7. Shoma UNO
  8. Max AARON
  9. Michal BREZINA
  10. Grant HOCHSTEIN
  11. Denis TEN
  12. Ivan RIGHINI
Top 24 SB, guaranteed one, weren't also Top 12 at Worlds:
  • Han Yan, SB 7
  • Takahito Mura, SB 8
  • Daisuke Murakami, SB 12
  • Adian Pitkeev, SB 13
  • Ross Miner, SB 14
  • Artur Dmitriev, SB 15
  • Sergei Voronov, SB 16
  • Alexei Bychenko, SB 17
  • Elladj Balde, SB 18
  • Maxim Kovtun, SB 19
  • Florent Amodio, SB 20 -- retired
  • Jason Brown, SB 21
  • Nam Nguyen, SB 22
Miner (WS 28), Dmitriev (WS 48), and Balde (WS 66) were the skaters who also weren't Top 24 WS.

Kevin Reynolds and Brendan Kerry are at Gardena this weekend. Reynolds needs 38.38 higher than his SB to tie Grant Hochstein, and Kerry needs 26.69. In any case, SB 23 and 24, Brezina and Hochstein, are safe, since they're guaranteed two from Boston.

Top 24 WS, guaranteed one, weren't also Top 12 at Worlds or Top 24 SB:
  • Alexander Petrov, WS 14 (SB 33)
  • Alexander Samarin, WS 17 (SB 35)
  • Misha Ge, WS 21 (SB 38)
  • Konstantin Menshov, WS 23 (SB 29)
The WS are based on projected calculation at season end, where points from 2013-14 will be dropped and points from 2014-15 will be factored by 70%.

The Junior World Championship podium and JGPF gold medalist are eligible for GP picks, if they opt to skate senior/age out of junior.

Jr. Worlds podium:​

  1. Daniel Samohin (SB 26)
  2. Nicolas Nadeau (SB 36)
  3. Tomoki Hiwatashi (SB 41)
JGPF:
  1. Nathan Chen (SB 25)
Top 75 SB are eligible if they are age-eligible and meet the GP minimum, which is 3/5 the score of the World Champion's. Here Fernandez' 314.93 is the standard, and 188.95 is the cut-off. All Top 75 SB Men have it.
 
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Ladies:

Top 12 from Worlds, guaranteed two:
  1. Evgenia MEDVEDEVA
  2. Ashley WAGNER
  3. Anna POGORILAYA
  4. Gracie GOLD
  5. Satoko MIYAHARA
  6. Elena RADIONOVA
  7. Mao ASADA
  8. Rika HONGO
  9. Gabrielle DALEMAN
  10. Mirai NAGASU
  11. Zijun LI
  12. Elizabet TURSYNBAEVA
Top 24 SB, guaranteed one, weren't also Top 12 at Worlds:
  • Adelina Sotnikova, SB 7
  • Elizaveta Tuktamysheva, SB 8
  • Maria Sotskova, SB 15
  • Wakaba Higuchi, SB 19
  • Polina Edmunds, SB 21
  • Courtney Hicks, SB 22
  • Mai Mihara, SB 23
  • Kaetlyn Osmond, SB 24
Polina Tsurskaya (SB 12), Marin Honda (SB 14), Yuna Shiraiwa (SB 16), and Alisa Fedichkina (SB 17) are not age-eligible for Seniors. Higuchi (SB 19) and Mihara (SB 23), juniors last season, are still junior-eligible.

Rodeghiero is at the Team Challenge, and she needs 8.65 higher than her SB to date to tie Osmond or 8.66 to knock her off the list. I don't think they have anything to worry about from the Ladies at Gardena.

Sotnikova (WS 58) and Higuchi (WS 32) were the skaters who also weren't Top 24 WS.

Top 24 WS, guaranteed one, weren't also Top 12 at Worlds or Top 24 SB:
  • Roberta Rodeghiero, WS 9 (SB 41)
  • Kanako Murakami, WS 10 (SB 32)
  • Angelina Kuchvalska, WS 11 (SB 29)
  • Nicole Rajicova, WS 17 (SB 36)
  • Karen Chen, WS 18 (SB 31)
  • Alena Leonova, WS 20 (SB 35)
  • Joshi Helgesson, WS 21 (SB 46)
The WS are based on projected calculation at season end, where points from 2013-14 will be dropped and points from 2014-15 will be factored by 70%.

The Junior World Championship podium and JGPF gold medalist are eligible for GP picks, if they opt to skate senior/age out of junior.

Jr. Worlds podium:

  1. Marin Honda (SB 14) -- not senior-eligible
  2. Maria Sotskova (SB 15) -- guaranteed one from SB
  3. Wakaba Higuchi (SB 19) -- guaranteed one from SB
JGPF:
  1. Polina Tsurskaya (SB 12) -- not senior-eligible
Top 75 SB are eligible if they are age-eligible and meet the GP minimum, which is 3/5 the score of the World Champion's. For Ladies, the base score is Medvedeva's 223.86, and 134.31, which the Top 106 Ladies earned.
 
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Pairs:

Top 10 from Worlds, guaranteed two:
  1. Meagan DUHAMEL / Eric RADFORD
  2. Wenjing SUI / Cong HAN
  3. Aliona SAVCHENKO / Bruno MASSOT
  4. Ksenia STOLBOVA / Fedor KLIMOV
  5. Evgenia TARASOVA / Vladimir MOROZOV
  6. Tatiana VOLOSOZHAR / Maxim TRANKOV
  7. Lubov ILIUSHECHKINA / Dylan MOSCOVITCH
  8. Kirsten MOORE-TOWERS / Michael MARINARO
  9. Alexa SCIMECA / Chris KNIERIM
  10. Vanessa JAMES / Morgan CIPRES
Top 24 SB, guaranteed one, weren't also Top 10 at Worlds:
  • Kavaguti/Smirnov, SB 6
  • Seguin/Bilodeau, SB 9
  • Yu/Jin, SB 11
  • Zabijako/Enbert, SB 12
  • Peng/Zhang, SB 13
  • Della Monica/Guarise, SB 14
  • Moore-Towers/Marinaro, SB 15 -- 8th at Worlds
  • Wang/Wang, SB 16
  • Ashtakova/Rogonov, SB 18
  • Marchei/Hotarek, SB 19
  • Kayne/O'Shea, SB 20
  • Duskova/Bidar, SB 21
  • Bazarova/Deputat, SB 22
  • Vartmann/Blommaert, SB23
  • Castelli/Tran, SB 24
No Pairs at Gardena, and only the FS at Team Challenge Cup.

Zabijako/Enbert (WS 40) and Vartmann/Blommaert (WS 26) were the skaters who also weren't Top 24 WS.

Top 24 WS, guaranteed one, weren't also Top 12 at Worlds or Top 24 SB:
  • Ziegler/Kiefer, WS 13 (SB 33)
  • Grenier/Deschamps, WS 22 (SB 28)
The WS are based on projected calculation at season end, where points from 2013-14 will be dropped and points from 2014-15 will be factored by 70%.

The Junior World Championship podium and JGPF gold medalist are eligible for GP picks, if they opt to skate senior/age out of junior.

Jr. Worlds podium:

  1. Duskova/Bidar (SB 21) -- guaranteed one from SB
  2. Mishina/Mizroev (SB 25) -- junior-eligible
  3. Borisova/Sopot (SB 26) -- junior-eligible
JGPF:
  1. Borisova/Sopot (SB 26) -- junior-eligible
Top 75 SB are eligible if they are age-eligible and meet the GP minimum, which is 3/5 the score of the World Champion's. For Pair, the base score is Duhamel/Radford's 231.99, and 139.19, which the Top 46 Pairs earned. It's possible some of the teams between Top 47-75 made the GP Technical minimums.

ETA: Many thanks to @Josh78 for the GP TES minimums for Pairs:

  • SP: 26.32, based on Sui/Han's 43.88
  • FS: 47.67, based on Duhamel/Radford's 79.46
They have to be earned at an event that can be used as a SB (ISU events and Challenger Series, and the OWG/YOG in the pertinent years).
 
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Dance:

Top 10 from Worlds, guaranteed two:
  1. Gabriella PAPADAKIS / Guillaume CIZERON
  2. Maia SHIBUTANI / Alex SHIBUTANI
  3. Madison CHOCK / Evan BATES
  4. Anna CAPPELLINI / Luca LANOTTE
  5. Kaitlyn WEAVER / Andrew POJE
  6. Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE
  7. Penny COOMES / Nicholas BUCKLAND
  8. Piper GILLES / Paul POIRIER
  9. Victoria SINITSINA / Nikita KATSALAPOV
  10. Charlene GUIGNARD / Marco FABBRI
Top 24 SB, guaranteed one, weren't also Top 10 at Worlds:
  • Ilinykh/Zhiganshin, SB 7
  • Bobrova/Soloviev, SB 8
  • Stepanova/Bukin, SB 13
  • McNamara/Carpenter, SB 14 -- junior-eligible
  • Parsons/Parsons, SB 15 -- junior-eligible
  • Tobias/Tkachenko, SB 16
  • Testa/Csolley, SB 17
  • Loboda/Drozd, SB 18 -- junior-eligible
  • Hawayek/Baker, SB 19
  • Fournier Beaudry/Sorensen, SB 20
  • Lauriault/Le Gac, SB 21 -- junior-eligible
  • Agafonova/Ucar, SB 22
  • Popova/Vlasenko, SB 23 -- he turned 21 in 2015.
  • Kaliszek/Spodirev, SB 24
No Dance at Gardena, and only the FD at Team Challenge Cup.

Tobias/Tkachenko (WS 39), Loboda/Drozd (WS 25), Lauriault/Le Gac (WS 47), and Kaliszek/Spodirev (WS 27) were the skaters who also weren't Top 24 WS.

Top 24 WS, guaranteed one, weren't also Top 12 at Worlds or Top 24 SB:
  • Nazarova/Nikitin, WS 16 (SB 51)
  • Kim/Minov, WS 17 (SB 48)
  • Wang/Liu, WS 19 (SB 52)
  • Cannuscio/McManus, WS 23 (SB 36)
  • Paradis/Ouellette, WS 24 (SB 30)
The WS are based on projected calculation at season end, where points from 2013-14 will be dropped and points from 2014-15 will be factored by 70%.

The Junior World Championship podium and JGPF gold medalist are eligible for GP picks, if they opt to skate senior/age out of junior.

Jr. Worlds podium:

  1. McNamara/Carpenter (SB 14) -- guaranteed one from SB
  2. Parsons/Parsons (SB 15) -- guaranteed one from SB
  3. Loboda/Drozd (SB 18) -- guaranteed one from SB
JGPF:
  1. McNamara/Carpenter (SB 14) -- guaranteed one from SB

Top 75 SB are eligible if they are age-eligible and meet the GP minimum, which is 3/5 the score of the World Champions'. For Dance, the GP total minimum is based on Papdakis/Cizeron's 194.46, and is 116.67, which the Top 76 Dance teams earned.
 
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Without counting any host picks, guaranteed spots by discipline are:

Men:
  • Top 12: 24
  • Top 24 SB: 12
  • Top 24 WS: 4
Total guaranteed: 40

Ladies:
  • Top 12: 24
  • Top 24 SB: 5 seniors and 3 senior- and junior-eligible skaters who did juniors in 2015-16
  • Top 24 WS: 7
Total guaranteed: 36-39

Pairs:
  • Top 10: 20
  • Top 24 SB: 15 (Duskova/Bidar said they are going senior) 14, removing duplication of M-T/M.
  • Top 24 WS: 2
Total guaranteed: 37 36

Dance:
  • Top 10: 20
  • Top 24 SB: 10 seniors and 4 senior- and junior-eligible teams who did juniors in 2015-16
  • Top 24 WS: 5
Total: 35-39

Virtue/Moir have announced that they're coming back, but it sounded like they expect to do one GP, which would mean not taking the one-time "comeback" option next season.

With 72 spots for singles, 40 spots guaranteed leaves 32 (44%) after guaranteed spots, which is a decent ratio, and last year the hosts went pretty deep into the list. If the ISU keeps it to eight spots again for Pairs (understandable) and Dance (there were as many Dance teams as Men this year, although there was at least one withdrawal for Men, Majorov) -- that's optimistically half (22%) of the number of spots available for a second or for any team that isn't guaranteed a spot. Just brutal.

With so many young junior Ladies in just their first to second season, it's not surprising that many of them had such strong SB scores with junior programs, but they were far down in WS, which made for much less overlap between the Top 24 SB and Top 24 WS.

The moral of the story is to compete at Mordovian Ornament, if possible, and the Joshi "Never Met a World Standings Point She Didn't Like" Helgesson award goes to Roberta Rodeghiero, WS 9/SB 41.

WS were fortunate for veteran skaters Leonova (WS 20/SB 35), Murakami (WS 10/SB 32), and Helgesson herself (WS 21/SB 46).
 
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*anxiously plotting numbers*

....Brendan? Could he get one again?

I am sure Kailani and Brooklee are now too far down the list to be considered. That's okay. Temporary setback only.

Max is guaranteed two as a top 12, so I can rest easy on that front. Jason is guaranteed one, but I am sure he'll be picked up for a second. Liza is guaranteed one, hopefully she would be picked up for a second.

Now, I'm sure we talked about this before, but Joshua...? If he is ready for the GP, could he pick up the comeback skater option or is his only option to be a host pick at SkAm?
 

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Joshua Farris could use the one-time return skater next year based on his 11th at 2015 Worlds. Or he could be assigned to Skate America and do Challenger Series: if it's like last year, with 12 spots, most if not all of the top Men will get two, and the CS scores will be intermingled with those with one.

Craine is SB 58 and Han is SB 71. Han is probably cheaper to transport, but SB 71 is still low for a non-host skater.

Kerry is SB 49, and I think he has a very good chance at one in the initial selection, if last year is anything to go by.

Carolina Kostner should get 2, coming bak to GP
If she decides to take the option now, she'll get two. The language doesn't say guaranteed for comeback skaters, but that's just blah, blah talk. She may decided to do CS, and go to the top of the alternates list.

Moore-Towers/Marinaro, SB 15

Just an FYI, M-T/M were 8th at worlds so you don't need to include them in the season best list too.
Thanks -- I've crossed them out and added the spot back in for Pairs, which is sorely needed.
 
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The Gardena Spring Trophy shouldn't count on the SB list (it's not a grand prix or challenger series). I think it will only affect grand prix selections if it moves someone in or out of the top 24 in world standings.
 

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The Gardena Spring Trophy shouldn't count on the SB list (it's not a grand prix or challenger series). I think it will only affect grand prix selections if it moves someone in or out of the top 24 in world standings
:duh:

Reynolds and Kerry have an open WS slot. Reynolds is too far behind, and I suspect Kerry too. I'll check when the data's in front of me.

ETA: All of this is moot: there are only four members competing in Senior Men, which is not enough for WS points in singles. That's too bad, because Kerry could have moved up as many as 10 spots with points, although not enough to have been guaranteed a spot.
 
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Thank you, kwanfan, for all your hard work!

So if Virtue & Moir are only planning to do one GP, does that mean Skate Canada? I would assume no, except then why not do two GPs? Is Canada really going to start off the season by pitting Weaver & Poje against Virtue & Moir? Doing so with Patrick & Nam this season made sense, as Nam really wasn't established yet; but in dance . . . political conundrum. And since W&P are not top three, that would mean someone else--Chock & Bates?--from the current top three is going to be there.
:watch:

So Monko & Khaliavin really did go from eighth place in the World to dropping clear off the GP lists. Another moral of the story; send your dance teams out early on the Challenger Series. You never know when a mid-season injury or virus could take you clear out of the picture. (Paul & Islam are off the lists as well. And Yanovskaya & Mosgov).

  • Lauriault/Le Gac, SB 21 -- junior-eligible

I know my math with dates is poor; but Lauriault & Le Gac are no longer junior eligible this coming season, are they? She was born in '96.
 
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About V&M, it's not a sure thing that they are only doing one GP. From this interview, it sounds like they might take the option of trying to get GP events off the alternate lists rather than take the comeback option

http://www.thestar.com/sports/amate...rs-virtue-moir-music-to-our-ears-dimanno.html
“We have to qualify again,” notes Moir, “prove to Skate Canada that we deserve Grand Prix assignments.” To that end, they’ll venture to one or two of the “Senior B” events in advance of the Grand Prix circuit.
 

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You are right -- I need to doubke-check the rest of the women. I always forget their age cut-off is different, under 19, not under 21. I hope we see them.

As far as V/M doing one, they could take the one-time option and commit to two. If they don't, but do CS, they should get one off the alternates list. If they don't, they're not eligible for any spot but one at SC.

Skate Canada would have no problem throwing W/P under the bus for V/M, for whom they chose a second-rate Worlds location. Weaver will make a statement about how much they love whatever assignments they get. Otherwise, it will be uphill at SC and a possible GPF miss. They're best off at the two events on either side of SC, so they won't be up against V/M.
 

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They're best off at the two events on either side of SC, so they won't be up against V/M.

I agree. If I were W&P, I'd go the same route as the Shibs this season. Establish myself internationally first. And then tackle V&M. (It worked both for the Shibs and for Bobrova & Soloviev this season).

We'll see Lauriault & Le Gac at TEB. France has been waiting for this team to move up so they can use their host spots.
 

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Without counting any host picks, guaranteed spots by discipline are:

Dance:
  • Top 10: 20
  • Top 24 SB: 10 seniors and 4 senior- and junior-eligible teams who did juniors in 2015-16
  • Top 24 WS: 5
Total: 35-39

Virtue/Moir have announced that they're coming back, but it sounded like they expect to do one GP, which would mean not taking the one-time "comeback" option next season.

So do the "guaranteed" spots outrank the host spots if there is not enough room? I'm doing the math here and not seeing how all these dance teams can even be guaranteed the spots listed above at the moment. 48 dance spots all together. But up to 3 host spots per country and all but Japan has the potential to fill those three spots. Even if we assume the national champion from each country takes a host spot in order to help sell tickets (Not a guarantee in Canada. And irrelevant in Japan since Muramoto & Reed aren't on the lists), that leaves us with 11 host spots. 48-11 is 37 open spots. Pretty high chance that Loboda & Drozd will stay junior. And for the sake of averages--and in part for exactly this reason--it's plausible the Parsons might as well. Lauriault & Le Gac cannot. And McNamara & Carpenter have already won everything on the junior scene so it's highly unlikely they will stay junior. Which leaves us with...37 guaranteed placements. That's without Virtue & Moir taking the comeback option, assuming Weaver & Poje don't choose to go elsewhere instead of SC, and--as I said--assuming the Parsons decide to stay junior.

Can a host country be forced to count a team's home invite event as that team's guaranteed event? Can a country that is supposed to have three host spots be forced to give one up for another team that has qualified for the lists above? Or is the guarantee not really guaranteed if there isn't enough room?
 

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I've read here that the hosts choose first. I can't remember if there's ever been a situation where if every host chose all skaters who were not guaranteed any, they would run out of spots, but it's never happened in practice.
 

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I've read here that the hosts choose first. I can't remember if there's ever been a situation where if every host chose all skaters who were not guaranteed any, they would run out of spots, but it's never happened in practice.

So if the host country chooses a team with one guaranteed placement, that invitation counts as their guaranteed placement. Correct?
 

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Joshua Farris could use the one-time return skater next year based on his 11th at 2015 Worlds. Or he could be assigned to Skate America and do Challenger Series: if it's like last year, with 12 spots, most if not all of the top Men will get two, and the CS scores will be intermingled with those with one.

Excellent, thankyou for this explanation! I kept being confused as to where Joshua fit in with the comeback skater clause, since he had been assigned GPs in the first round last year.

Craine is SB 58 and Han is SB 71. Han is probably cheaper to transport, but SB 71 is still low for a non-host skater.

Kerry is SB 49, and I think he has a very good chance at one in the initial selection, if last year is anything to go by.

:cheer: Yay, Brendan! A year without Australian ladies is a little disappointing, but it's a minor setback only. I'm sure they'll be back!

:duh:

Reynolds and Kerry have an open WS slot. Reynolds is too far behind, and I suspect Kerry too. I'll check when the data's in front of me.

ETA: All of this is moot: there are only four members competing in Senior Men, which is not enough for WS points in singles. That's too bad, because Kerry could have moved up as many as 10 spots with points, although not enough to have been guaranteed a spot.

:wuzrobbed
 

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If the rules stay the same, Denney/Frazier should qualify as a return team, because while only Top 10 at Worlds guaranteed two spots, the rule has been Top 12 in the last two WC's, and they were 12th in 2015.

So if the host country chooses a team with one guaranteed placement, that invitation counts as their guaranteed placement. Correct?
Yes. It's highly likely that any 2/3 spots assigned to SA, SC, RC, and NHK (singles) will go to skaters who are already guaranteed spots or are special return/split cases, like V/M this year and I/Z and S/K the first season after swapping partners. Russia, for example, has six Pairs in the Top 24 SB, and the next group down competed juniors this year. At least two at RC should be among those guaranteed spots. Canada has five Pairs with guaranteed spots. The US is weaker this year in terms of Pairs guaranteed spots; they might end up with one overlap instead of two.

The GP Announcement tries to encourage host to offer a host spot to comeback skaters/teams and split couples. Plus Japan often returns Pairs and Dance spots to the pool, and I suspect Gailhaguet bargains away spots, since he often doesn't use them all.
 

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Joshua Farris could use the one-time return skater next year based on his 11th at 2015 Worlds. Or he could be assigned to Skate America and do Challenger Series: if it's like last year, with 12 spots, most if not all of the top Men will get two, and the CS scores will be intermingled with those with one.

If the rules stay the same, Denney/Frazier should qualify as a return team, because while only Top 10 at Worlds guaranteed two spots, the rule has been Top 12 in the last two WC's, and they were 12th in 2015.

Am I wrong for assuming that they still need a "green flag" from USFS in order to get assigned to anything in the GP next season? Assuming the monitoring session(s) went well, I would be shocked if they didn't at least have to do reasonably well at a Senior B (U.S. Classic, Nebelhorn, Ondrej Nepela Trophy?) But then wouldn't that make them TBA when they announce the assignments this summer?

But then again, Leng/Shnapir got two GP assignments off the bat.........
 

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I have no idea what hoops USFS makes them jump through to get put on the list for GP selection or to claim spits and status that they earned, since GP spits, aside from discretionary host spits are earned by and for skaters, not by skaters for the country.
 

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Without counting any host picks, guaranteed spots by discipline are:



Pairs:
  • Top 10: 20
  • Top 24 SB: 15 (Duskova/Bidar said they are going senior) 14, removing duplication of M-T/M.
  • Top 24 WS: 2
Total guaranteed: 37 36

Technically yes, but meant only for ISU Champs (home ground Ostrava EC + Oly Q in Helsinki WC) + some Challengers / Bs Internationals. As for GP they would still be skating Juniors (and makes no sense to them to move yet).
 

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Technically yes, but meant only for ISU Champs (home ground Ostrava EC + Oly Q in Helsinki WC) + some Challengers / Bs Internationals. As for GP they would still be skating Juniors (and makes no sense to them to move yet).
Thank you for the info!

That's good news for the other Pairs, since spots will be very tight.
 

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A lot of this depends on whether there are any rule changes, but if the rules are the same as last year, the following skaters and teams are guaranteed spots for GP or are eligible for selection, with the additional caveat that ... Team Challenge Cup ... WTT counted towards SB's; only Ladies and Men could count towards the SB list, as singles will compete both SP and FS, while Pairs and Dance teams will only compete in the free.
The ISU SB total scores list haven't changed since before Team Challenge Cup, and so it appears the scores from TCC are NOT being counted as ISU season or personal bests.

* = 2016 Worlds top 12 men/ladies or top 10 pairs/dance
[ ] = ladies are too young for GP (not yet 15 as of July 1, 2016)

2015-16 ISU Season Best Total Scores - top 24 in each discipline:

MEN
1 330.43 Yuzuru HANYU* JPN ISU Grand Prix Final 2015/16
2 314.93 Javier FERNANDEZ* ESP ISU World Championships 2016
3 290.21 Patrick CHAN* CAN ISU Four Continents Championships 2016
4 289.83 Boyang JIN* CHN ISU Four Continents Championships 2016
5 276.79 Shoma UNO* JPN ISU Grand Prix Final 2015/16
6 276.39 Denis TEN* KAZ ISU CS Golden Spin of Zagreb 2015
7 271.55 Han YAN CHN ISU Four Continents Championships 2016
8 268.43 Takahito MURA JPN ISU Four Continents Championships 2016
9 267.97 Mikhail KOLYADA* RUS ISU World Championships 2016
10 264.44 Adam RIPPON* USA ISU World Championships 2016
11 258.95 Max AARON* USA ISU GP 2015 Progressive Skate America
12 252.25 Daisuke MURAKAMI JPN ISU GP Skate Canada International 2015
13 250.47 Adian PITKEEV RUS ISU GP Rostelecom Cup 2015
14 248.92 Ross MINER USA ISU GP Rostelecom Cup 2015
15 247.57 Artur DMITRIEV RUS ISU CS Ice Challenge 2015
16 244.60 Sergei VORONOV RUS ISU GP Rostelecom Cup 2015
17 242.56 Alexei BYCHENKO ISR ISU European Championships 2016
18 242.36 Elladj BALDE CAN ISU CS Nebelhorn Trophy 2015
19 242.21 Maxim KOVTUN RUS ISU European Championships 2016
20 240.96 Florent AMODIO FRA ISU European Championships 2016
21 240.65 Jason BROWN USA ISU CS Ice Challenge 2015
22 238.82 Nam NGUYEN CAN ISU GP Skate Canada International 2015
23 237.99 Michal BREZINA* CZE ISU World Championships 2016
24 237.25 Grant HOCHSTEIN* USA ISU World Championships 2016
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25 236.76 Nathan CHEN USA ISU JGP Colorado Springs 2015 04.09.2015
26 236.65 Daniel SAMOHIN ISR ISU World Junior Championships 2016 18.03.2016
27 236.36 Ivan RIGHINI* ITA ISU European Championships 2016

LADIES
1 223.86 Evgenia MEDVEDEVA* RUS ISU World Championships 2016
2 215.39 Ashley WAGNER* USA ISU World Championships 2016
3 214.91 Satoko MIYAHARA* JPN ISU Four Continents Championships 2016
4 214.07 Anna POGORILAYA* RUS ISU CS Mordovian Ornament 2015
5 211.32 Elena RADIONOVA* RUS ISU GP Rostelecom Cup 2015
6 211.29 Gracie GOLD* USA ISU World Championships 2016
7 203.89 Adelina SOTNIKOVA RUS ISU CS Mordovian Ornament 2015
8 201.33 Elizaveta TUKTAMYSHEVA RUS ISU CS Golden Spin of Zagreb 2015
9 200.30 Mao ASADA* JPN ISU World Championships 2016
10 199.15 Rika HONGO* JPN ISU World Championships 2016
11 195.68 Gabrielle DALEMAN* CAN ISU World Championships 2016
[12 195.28 Polina TSURSKAYA RUS ISU Junior Grand Prix Final 2015/16]
13 193.86 Mirai NAGASU* USA ISU Four Continents Championships 2016
[14 192.98 Marin HONDA JPN ISU World Junior Championships 2016]
15 188.72 Maria SOTSKOVA RUS ISU World Junior Championships 2016
[16 186.80 Yuna SHIRAIWA JPN ISU JGP Logrono 2015]
[17 186.38 Alisa FEDICHKINA RUS ISU JGP Logrono 2015]
18 184.52 Zijun LI* CHN ISU World Championships 2016
19 183.73 Wakaba HIGUCHI JPN ISU World Junior Championships 2016
20 183.62 Elizabet TURSYNBAEVA* KAZ ISU World Championships 2016
21 183.20 Polina EDMUNDS USA ISU GP Rostelecom Cup 2015
22 183.12 Courtney HICKS USA ISU GP NHK Trophy 2015
23 182.05 Mai MIHARA JPN ISU JGP Cup of Austria 2015
24 179.41 Kaetlyn OSMOND CAN ISU CS Nebelhorn Trophy 2015

PAIRS
1 231.99 Meagan DUHAMEL / Eric RADFORD* CAN ISU World Championships 2016
2 229.44 Ksenia STOLBOVA / Fedor KLIMOV* RUS ISU Grand Prix Final 2015/16
3 224.47 Wenjing SUI / Cong HAN* CHN ISU World Championships 2016
4 222.66 Tatiana VOLOSOZHAR / Maxim TRANKOV* RUS ISU European Championships 2016
5 216.17 Aliona SAVCHENKO / Bruno MASSOT* GER ISU World Championships 2016
6 216.00 Yuko KAVAGUTI / Alexander SMIRNOV RUS ISU GP Audi Cup of China 2015
7 207.96 Alexa SCIMECA / Chris KNIERIM* USA ISU Four Continents Championships 2016
8 206.27 Evgenia TARASOVA / Vladimir MOROZOV* RUS ISU World Championships 2016
9 200.98 Julianne SEGUIN / Charlie BILODEAU CAN ISU Grand Prix Final 2015/16
10 199.52 Lubov ILIUSHECHKINA / Dylan MOSCOVITCH* CAN ISU World Championships 2016
[11 197.75 Xiaoyu YU / Yang JIN CHN ISU GP Audi Cup of China 2015 - SPLIT :(]
12 196.22 Natalia ZABIIAKO / Alexander ENBERT RUS ISU CS Mordovian Ornament 2015
[13 193.04 Cheng PENG / Hao ZHANG CHN ISU GP Rostelecom Cup 2015 - SPLIT]
14 191.98 Nicole DELLA MONICA / Matteo GUARISE ITA ISU CS Warsaw Cup 2015
15 190.90 Kirsten MOORE-TOWERS / Michael MARINARO* CAN ISU World Championships 2016
16 186.76 Xuehan WANG / Lei WANG CHN ISU GP Audi Cup of China 2015
17 185.83 Vanessa JAMES / Morgan CIPRES* FRA ISU World Championships 2016
18 185.00 Kristina ASTAKHOVA / Alexei ROGONOV RUS ISU CS O. Nepela Trophy 2015
19 182.61 Valentina MARCHEI / Ondrej HOTAREK ITA ISU European Championships 2016
20 182.02 Tarah KAYNE / Daniel O SHEA USA ISU Four Continents Championships 2016
21 181.82 Anna DUSKOVA / Martin BIDAR CZE ISU World Junior Championships 2016 (likely to return to JGP according post #24 above)
22 181.70 Vera BAZAROVA / Andrei DEPUTAT RUS ISU GP NHK Trophy 2015
23 177.04 Mari VARTMANN / Ruben BLOMMAERT GER ISU CS Tallinn Trophy 2015
24 175.08 Marissa CASTELLI / Mervin TRAN USA ISU Four Continents Championships 2016

Note: 2 new CHN pairs have been formed from the split pairs noted above:
Xiaoyu YU / Hao ZHANG and Cheng PENG / Yang JIN


DANCE
1 194.46 Gabriella PAPADAKIS / Guillaume CIZERON* FRA ISU World Championships 2016
2 188.43 Maia SHIBUTANI / Alex SHIBUTANI* USA ISU World Championships 2016
3 185.77 Madison CHOCK / Evan BATES* USA ISU World Championships 2016
4 182.72 Anna CAPPELLINI / Luca LANOTTE* ITA ISU World Championships 2016
5 182.66 Kaitlyn WEAVER / Andrew POJE* CAN ISU Grand Prix Final 2015/16
6 176.81 Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE* USA ISU World Championships 2016
7 176.70 Elena ILINYKH / Ruslan ZHIGANSHIN RUS ISU CS Mordovian Ornament 2015
8 176.50 Ekaterina BOBROVA / Dmitri SOLOVIEV RUS ISU European Championships 2016
9 173.17 Penny COOMES / Nicholas BUCKLAND* GBR ISU World Championships 2016
10 173.07 Piper GILLES / Paul POIRIER* CAN ISU World Championships 2016
11 172.65 Victoria SINITSINA / Nikita KATSALAPOV* RUS ISU European Championships 2016
12 172.28 Charlene GUIGNARD / Marco FABBRI* ITA ISU CS Golden Spin of Zagreb 2015
13 165.55 Alexandra STEPANOVA / Ivan BUKIN RUS ISU European Championships 2016
14 163.65 Lorraine MCNAMARA / Quinn CARPENTER USA ISU World Junior Championships 2016
15 162.74 Rachel PARSONS / Michael PARSONS USA ISU World Junior Championships 2016
16 160.98 Isabella TOBIAS / Ilia TKACHENKO ISR ISU CS Mordovian Ornament 2015
17 158.05 Federica TESTA / Lukas CSOLLEY SVK ISU European Championships 2016
18 153.64 Alla LOBODA / Pavel DROZD RUS ISU JGP Cup of Austria 2015
19 153.06 Kaitlin HAWAYEK / Jean-Luc BAKER USA ISU CS Golden Spin of Zagreb 2015
20 152.79 Laurence FOURNIER BEAUDRY / Nikolaj SORENSEN DEN ISU European Championships 2016
21 152.72 Marie-Jade LAURIAULT / Romain LE GAC FRA ISU JGP Logrono 2015
22 151.74 Alisa AGAFONOVA / Alper UCAR TUR ISU CS Denkova Staviski Cup 2015
23 150.94 Betina POPOVA / Yuri VLASENKO RUS ISU JGP Logrono 2015
24 150.60 Natalia KALISZEK / Maksim SPODIREV POL ISU CS Mordovian Ornament 2015
 
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Copying over @Dobre's posts from the U.S. Dance thread to this more relevant one:
Has anyone run the numbers for dance openings on the Grand Prix? Prior to injuries, illnesses, & splits, we're currently looking at about four dance spots available in the GP for any dance team placements outside the ones already guaranteed. Meaning . . .

Any second spot for Bobrova & Soloviev, who placed fifth at the Grand Prix Final and third at Europeans this season. Their best hope for an invite would be either China or NHK or maybe France if its federation is feeling both confident and generous.

Any second spot for Ilinykh & Zhiganshin, 7th at Worlds and GPF finalists in 2014-2015.

Any second spot for McNamara & Carpenter, reigning Junior World Champions (I'm trying to fathom the GP this season without two events for Medvedeva, Shoma Uno, or Yu & Jin).

Any second spot for Stepanova & Bukin, bronze medalists at Europeans in 2015 & fifth this season.

And, of course, any second spot for the following teams:
Fournier-Beaudry & Sorenson
Tobias & Tkachenko
Testa & Csolley
Muramoto & Reed
Hawayek & Baker

This is IF the Parsons don't go senior and IF Virtue & Moir don't use the comeback option and IF Abachkina & Thauron don't go senior and France feels like not inviting their current #2 senior dance team. Otherwise, we're looking at one available spot on the GP. And if it happens to be available in a country hoping to send multiple teams to the GPF, then it could just as easily be given to a team ranked more along the lines of Wang & Liu or Lauriault & Le Gac than any of the teams listed above.

Then there are Virtue & Moir who are apparently considering trying to win a second spot off the alternates list. (Judging by last season, if they decide to go this route, they would likely need an opening at NHK or CoC. All the other countries have contenders for the GPF).

Last season, in dance, there was one late opening at Cup of Russia and two at NHK. Only one of those three spots went to a high-level team on the alternate list. The other two went to teams then-ranked lower than the top twenty). There were other openings--P&C in France, China's host team, Hawayek & Baker & Monko & Khaliavin's mid-event withdrawals--but they did not open in time for other teams to receive invitations.

Shall we just do the right thing and expand the number of dance teams on the GP? Please.
... But I also subtracted any host openings that will be given to Virtue & Moir, a second Japanese dance team, and the lower two Chinese dance teams--none of whom are on the GP qualification lists. (It's a guessing game, of course. And naturally not an accurate one). But at the moment, my post above is my best-case scenario. I'm not at all certain about whether Popova & Vlasenko will stay together--with all the tumult in Russian ice dance & the possible availability of two high-quality Russian male partners. I'm also a bit worried about Nazarova & Nikitin after her emotional reaction at the end of the Worlds FD (crossing my fingers that these two are OK). And I could see Japan's second dance team getting out, now that Muramoto & Reed have established themselves as the clear frontrunners. But for now, those teams have their single spots in my analysis. I left Loboda & Drozd in juniors because I had read that their plan was likely to remain in juniors. And I left the Parsons in juniors & moved McNamara & Carpenter up, for the sake of averages.
 

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