US Ice Dance 2024-25 News & Updates

[ice coverage]

I love how animated Caroline Green and Michael Parsons were in this post-RD mini-interview at NHK (off-camera voice belongs to Satoko, I believe):

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Kolesnik got his green card in summer 2020, as did Carreira -- so I hope their citizenship timelines will be similar.

 

[jlai]

Oh, I realize this. That's another reason why I don't think BraSom are in any conversation for the Worlds team this year. I have no idea who will triumph between ZingKol and GreenP, though. I'll be rooting for GreenP because I think their programs are better this year.

I love how animated Caroline Green and Michael Parsons were in this post-RD mini-interview at NHK (off-camera voice belongs to Satoko, I believe):

日本スケート連盟 on Instagram: "NHK杯2024リズムダンス💃 日本大好き！ ありがとうございます🤩 最後まで日本を楽しんでください！ #キャロライングリーン#マイケルパーソンズ組 #NHK杯フィギュア #NHKTrophy2024 #フィギュアスケート"

1,481 likes, 2 comments - skatingjapan on November 7, 2024: "NHK杯2024リズムダンス💃 日本大好き！ ありがとうございます🤩 最後まで日本を楽しんでください！ #キャロライングリーン#マイケルパーソンズ組 #NHK杯フィギュア #NHKTrophy2024 #フィギュアスケート".

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Kolesnik got his green card in summer 2020, as did Carreira -- so I hope their citizenship timelines will be similar.

That is cutting a bit close. Usfs may want to invest in a team who are eligible for the Olympics for sure. Besides this gives more time for Zingas to beef up her technique.

I think g/p has a good balance between technical vs presentation at least this season

 

[ice coverage]

That is cutting a bit close. ...

If "cutting it a bit close" refers to citizenship timeline for Kolesnik, then I would say that citizenship timeline for Carreira also is cutting it a bit close. AFAIK, most FSU comments regarding prospects for Carreira's U.S. passport have a high degree of optimism that it will come through just fine -- but not so much regarding Kolesnik's, which I don't understand.
[ETA: Not that it really matters what members of FSU (including me) think . USFS is a different story.]

I am a big fan of Green/Parsons as well as Zingas/Kolesnik, and I like Bratti/Somerville too.
I will be happy for any partnership that makes it to 2025 Worlds, and sad for any that do not.
I just don't want anyone to be at a disadvantage or advantage because of citizenship status.

 

[jlai]

If "cutting it a bit close" refers to citizenship timeline for Kolesnik, then I would say that citizenship timeline for Carreira also is cutting it a bit close. AFAIK, most FSU comments regarding prospects for Carreira's U.S. passport have a high degree of optimism that it will come through just fine -- but not so much for Kolesnik, which I don't understand.
[ETA: Not that it really matters what members of FSU (including me) think . USFS is a different story.]

I am a big fan of Green/Parsons as well as Zingas/Kolesnik, and I like Bratti/Somerville too.
I will be happy for any partnership that makes it to 2025 Worlds, and sad for any that do not.
I just don't want anyone to be at a disadvantage or advantage because of citizenship status.

If the three teams are relatively similar competitively speaking I can see Olympic eligible teams having a small advantage.

To be honest I think z/k rose up quickly and didn’t have time to get the skills solid yet. Namely her edges. Ymmv (I enjoy watching them though)

 

[Prancer]

LOL! Yes, I am a poor, poor simple - minded soul and you are? I won't even guess because don't want to be mean

@jackson maybe you missed seeing @Prancer's Admin. request above?

If jackson missed it, I will repeat--take this conversation to PM.

 

[Jammers]

I think Vadym's citizenship timeline may also play into it. If USFS doesn't think he'll have citizenship in time for the Olys, they are likely to push the teams that do/will. Supposedly, he's on track to get it, but if USFS isn't confident about that...

Do we even know if Christina Carreira has her citizenship yet? Last i heard she was having trouble getting her green card or something to do with her citizenship a couple of years ago.

 

[Rukia]

Do we even know if Christina Carreira has her citizenship yet? Last i heard she was having trouble getting her green card or something to do with her citizenship a couple of years ago.

She has a green card and said she is on track to have her citizenship springish of 2025. Hopefully that timeline doesn't change.

 

[Sylvia]

From the Carreira/Ponomarenko fan thread:

Here’s a 3-page spread - article by Lynn Rutherford - in the Fall 2024 digital edition of SKATING magazine: https://online.flippingbook.com/view/791974542/30/

https://twitter.com/x/status/1852518513237279128

 

[BittyBug]

I am a big fan of Green/Parsons as well as Zingas/Kolesnik, and I like Bratti/Somerville too.
I will be happy for any partnership that makes it to 2025 Worlds, and sad for any that do not.
I just don't want anyone to be at a disadvantage or advantage because of citizenship status.

I'm with you. We have an embarrassment of riches in U.S. ice dance. If only we had more than 3 spots.

 

[Sylvia]

At IceChallenge in Graz, Austria earlier today (hurray for the free live stream!) - Senior RD results:

2 Amy CUI / Jonathan ROGERS [Shpilband is with them] 68.40
4 Vanessa PHAM / Anton SPIRIDONOV [Kaitlin Hawayek with them] 65.87
7 Raffaella Adele KONCIUS / Alexey SHCHEPETOV [Tanith is with them] 58.71

Final results from yesterday (Sunday) in Austria:

SILVER Amy Cui/Jonathan Rogers 174.10 2 2 (105.70 in FD)
4th Pham/Rogers Spiridonov 163.72 4 6 (97.85)
6th Koncius/Shchepetov 160.50 7 3 (101.79) - skated 2nd in FD to "Kissing You" from Romeo+Juliet OST

A few photos from Graz:

Raffaella Koncius & Alexey Shchepetov on Instagram: "#dadcam photo dump 📸"

koncius_shchepetov on November 10, 2024: "#dadcam photo dump 📸".

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[peibeck]

Final results from yesterday (Sunday) in Austria:

SILVER Amy Cui/Jonathan Rogers 174.10 2 2 (105.70 in FD)
4th Pham/Rogers 163.72 4 6 (97.85)
6th Koncius/Shchepetov 160.50 7 3 (101.79) - skated 2nd in FD to "Kissing You" from Romeo+Juliet OST

A few photos from Graz:

Raffaella Koncius & Alexey Shchepetov on Instagram: "#dadcam photo dump 📸"

koncius_shchepetov on November 10, 2024: "#dadcam photo dump 📸".

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Wow, Jonathan was BUSY!

Yes, I know you meant Anton Spiridonov.

 

[Karen-W]

The Browns and Morozov/Chen (as well as Aboian/Veselukhin) have been assigned to Santa Claus Cup. I'm a bit surprised that the Browns aren't being sent to Golden Spin, but the USFS seems to be trying to only assign 2 dance teams to any of the Challengers. Process of elimination says Green/Parsons and Neset/Markelov will be going to Golden Spin.

 

[Sylvia]

On Ice Perspectives' Jordan Cowan filmed Hana Aboian/Daniil Veselukhin's Junior RD last month and uploaded it yesterday (Nov. 2): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJwLFrLzRUk

And here's Aboian/Veselukhin's FD from the same session with On Ice Perspectives: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7vUoHkZRn8

It's a "balletic representation of a flower and wind experiencing the seasons" - Music: “Clarinet Concerto in A major K.622/II,” “Piano Concerto No.21 in C major K.467/II” and “Symphony no.40 in G minor - Molto Allegro” composed by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart (Music edited by Alexander Goldstein).

 

[pairsicedance]

Pate/Bye back to Polovtsian Dances https://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00110448.htm

 

[her grace]

So third program this season, hmm. I didn’t think Chaplin had so little potential that it needed to be scrapped.

 

[Karen-W]

Pate/Bye back to Polovtsian Dances https://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00110448.htm

So third program this season, hmm. I didn’t think Chaplin had so little potential that it needed to be scrapped.

I just want them to keep the costumes and create a FD to "The Music Man" next season. I think they'd SLAY at that.

 

[TanithandBenFan]

Pate/Bye back to Polovtsian Dances https://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00110448.htm

The Hungarian Dance FD looked almost the same as Pol Dances so I don’t know why even bother to switch.

 

[Rukia]

wait what was their first fd? I only saw Hungarian Dance which was...not great

 

[Wyliefan]

They started the season with a Chaplin one.

 

[Rukia]

They started the season with a Chaplin one.

oh well change is probably for the best

 

[BlueRidge]

The Hungarian Rhapsody one looked juvenile. I'm glad they have dumped it.

 

[pairsicedance]

Personally I wish they'd gone back to Riverdance if they're picking programs to repeat

 

[Spikefan]

Personally I wish they'd gone back to Riverdance if they're picking programs to repeat

Hunger Games for me.

 

[Rhumba d’Amour]

Hunger Games for me.

If they are going to revive an old program, I vote for the one where Bye did a stylized stumble and fall to accompany the words “and I…stumble and fall”

Now that was memorable!

 

[jlai]

From what I can see so far, there is a semblance of a pecking order between #3-#5 (or even 7) but they are close together enough that it takes one mistake and the pecking order will be out of order. And given the pressure on the teams, mistakes will happen.

 

[Rukia]

From what I can see so far, there is a semblance of a pecking order between #3-#5 (or even 7) but they are close together enough that it takes one mistake and the pecking order will be out of order. And given the pressure on the teams, mistakes will happen.

I agree with this (but also may change my opinion if something drastic happens for g/p at coc lol)

 

[PRlady]

Only a point between Zin/Kol and B/S at their two comps this weekend. Very for Nats!

ETA: I saw a few of the RDs and G/P’s is at least fun and cohesive. Why the Browns aren’t more entertaining is a puzzle.

 

[Hindernisse]

IMO, the Browns have one of the best RDs this season. Their FD, on the other hand, doesn’t leave much of an impression on me.

 

[Andrea82]

Do you know why Wolfkostin/Tsarevski withdrew after the RD at Tallinn Trophy today?

 

[Belsornia]

ETA: I saw a few of the RDs and G/P’s is at least fun and cohesive. Why the Browns aren’t more entertaining is a puzzle.

I think the Browns have the opposite problem to many younger teams, who struggle to find their on ice identity in their first few senior seasons. The Browns have a very clear identity: they're the funky kids. But showing range - and, I guess, maturity - is more of a stretch for them, which is probably additionally hampered by the limitations of being a sibling team. So they get programmes like last seasons' FD, which was probably aiming to show more emotional depth but ended up being simultaneously bland and WTF, and latin Imagine Dragons, where they seemed to be trying to fit the theme to their style.