US Ice Dance 2024-25 News & Updates

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C/P and Z/K are my picks for top of the USA teams at this time. And I still mourn that Haw/Baker never got their time to really shine. Will always enjoy their programs. I know C/B will probably continue to stay at the top but they feel like the old guard and they can retire happily with their accomplishments when they do.
 

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Starting Orders are up for Mids/Dance Final - https://ijs.usfigureskating.org/leaderboard/results/2024/34290/index.asp

Sr -
1 1 Amy Cui, SC of Boston / Jonathan Rogers, Texas Gulf Coast FSC
1 2 Raffaella Koncius, Los Angeles FSC / Alexey Shchepetov, FSC of Southern California
1 3 Grace Yi, Boise FSC / Danila Savelev, Thunderbirds FSC
2 4 Annabelle Morozov, SC of New York / Jeffrey Chen, Peninsula SC
2 5 Michela Melillo, Connecticut Skating Academy / Karl Schapfel, Hayden Recreation Centre FSC
2 6 Marin Hessel, Pavilion SC of Cleveland Heights / Daniel Klaber, Pavilion SC of Cleveland Heights
2 7 Vanessa Pham, SC of Houston / Anton Spiridonov, SC of New York

Jr -
1 1 Hana Maria Aboian, Peninsula SC / Daniil Veselukhin, SC of New York
1 2 Annelise Stapert, ION FSC / Maxim Korotcov, ION FSC
1 3 Yahli Pedersen, Ann Arbor FSC / Benjamin Starr, Charter Oak FSC
2 4 Anaelle Kouevi, ION FSC / Yann Homawoo, ION FSC
2 5 Olivia Ilin, Washington FSC / Dylan Cain, Washington FSC
2 6 Ja Yi Kirwan, SC of Boston / Rowan Le Coq, SC of New York
2 7 Julia Epps, IceWorks SC / Blake Gilman, Peninsula SC
3 8 Effie Chen, SC of Boston / Kenny Eckert, IceWorks SC
3 9 Emily Renzi, SC of New York / William Lissauer, All Year FSC
3 10 Michelle Deych, Detroit SC / Ryan Hu, Detroit SC
3 11 Caroline Mullen, Washington FSC / Brendan Mullen, Washington FSC

I'd seen an IG post last week that made me think Deych/Hu were back together, so it's nice to see confirmation of that with the entry lists.
 

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The top 6 Senior teams and the top 10 Junior teams at the U.S. Ice Dance Final will advance to 2025 Nationals.
I'd seen an IG post last week that made me think Deych/Hu were back together, so it's nice to see confirmation of that with the entry lists.
Nov. 6:
 

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The top 6 Senior teams and the top 10 Junior teams at the U.S. Ice Dance Final will advance to 2025 Nationals.

Nov. 6:
Do we know what the Sr TES mins are for ice dance? I can't imagine all of these teams have them, just going off of NQS scores.
 

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beckab81

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I guess we'll see if there's someone other than N Morozov w/ Morozov/Chen, given the rumors they left MIDA?
 

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Cross-posting both in here and in the U.S. Pairs news thread from the U.S. Sectionals thread in Kiss & Cry:

USFS can "go against their rulebook" [re. no medical byes to Nationals] by having the Board of Directors "vote to rescind the exceptions to rule 2502 & 2503 previously approved in July 2024 regarding Junior Pairs and Junior Ice Dance at the U.S. Championships. As a result, the 2025 U.S. Championships will return to the original numbers, with the top 12 Junior Pair teams from the US Pairs Final and the top 12 Junior Ice Dance teams from the US Ice Dance Final qualify. All previous advancement information pertaining to Junior Pairs and Junior Ice Dance published in the NQS handbook and November Finals pre-information is void."
(excerpt from an email sent to all Sectional competitors & coaches that was shared with me)

Therefore, all 11 of the Junior teams competing today & tomorrow at the U.S. Ice Dance Final at Midwesterns in Plano, as well as all 9 of the Junior pairs that competed last week in the U.S. Pairs Final at Easterns in Norwood, will advance to 2025 Nationals! :)
 
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her grace

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Did Ling/Wein officially retire? I don’t recall seeing them this season and they’re not at the Ice Dance Final.
 

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Congratulations to Chock/Bates for qualifying for the Grand Prix Final!

It looks like Carreira/Ponomarenko are 1st Alternate.


Based on this fall's senior ice dance Grand Prix season, the top six American teams (on the Grand Prix) are:
1. Chock/Bates
2. Carreira/Ponomarenko
3. Green/Parsons
4. Zingas/Kolesnik
5. Neset/Markelov
6. Bratti/Sommerville

These results (along with Nationals) should be important in picking (World and Four Continents) teams for later in the season.
 
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Karen-W

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Congratulations to Chock/Bates for qualifying for the Grand Prix Final!

It looks like Carreira/Ponomarenko are 1st Alternate.


Based on this fall's senior ice dance Grand Prix season, the top six American teams (on the Grand Prix) are:
1. Chock/Bates
2. Carreira/Ponomarenko
3. Green/Parsons
4. Zingas/Kolesnik
5. Neset/Markelov
6. Bratti/Sommerville

These results (along with Nationals) should be important in picking (World and Four Continents) teams for later in the season.
GreenP and ZingKol's top scores on the GP are within .4 of each other - 189.86 and 189.48 respectively. BraSom are actually ahead of NesMark, score-wise, and the Browns & PateBye are both in the same range as NesMark.

Here's what we're looking at for the ISU Championships Selection Pool (teams skating senior at Nats) -

SkaterLevelAge EligibleISU Min Score2024 U.S. NatsGPFGP/ JGP 1GP/ JGP 2GP/ JPG HighestGP/ JGP AvgCS/ Sr B/ Jr Int 1CS/ Sr B/ Jr Int 2CS/ Sr B/ Jr Int HighestCS/ Sr B/ Jr Int AvgDance Final (Top 2 in each Section JR/SR)NQS Score (Top 2 in each Section JR/SR)Non-USFS Funded EventPrev Yr Final NumberTotal
Bratti, Emily/Somerville, IanSYY
0.00​
173.08​
185.88​
185.88​
179.48​
189.91​
190.86​
190.86​
190.39​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
2
820.35​
Brown, Oona/Brown, GageSYY
0.00​
179.14​
176.57​
179.14​
177.86​
186.96​
149.57
186.96​
168.26
0.00​
186.01​
0.00​
0
805.90​
Carreira, Christina/Ponomarenko, AnthonySYY
0.00​
198.97​
198.18​
198.97​
198.58​
197.51​
194.69​
197.51​
196.10​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
13
1036.52​
Chock, Madison/Bates, EvanSYYGPF
205.63​
215.95​
215.95​
210.79​
0.00​
0.00​
164.50​
164.50​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
16
1061.31​
Cui, Amy/Rogers, JonathanSYY
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
173.00​
170.92​
174.10​
0
216.28​
Green, Caroline/Parsons, MichaelSYY
0.00​
188.76​
189.86​
189.86​
189.31​
186.47​
149.18​
186.47​
167.82​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0
786.30​
Koncius, Raffaela/Shchepetov, AlexeySY4CCs
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
173.66​
169.55​
160.50​
0
209.47​
Melillo, Michela/Schapfel, KarlSYN
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
124.23​
128.21​
0.00​
0
94.17​
Morozov, Annabelle/Chen, JeffreySYY
0.00​
166.73​
133.38​
166.73​
150.06​
177.05​
141.64​
177.05​
159.35
183.17​
163.74​
0.00​
0
825.06​
Neset, Leah/Markelov, ArtemS/JYY/Y
0.00​
179.38​
176.60​
179.38​
177.99​
175.33​
140.26
175.33​
157.80
0.00​
183.75​
0.00​
8
906.33​
Pate, Eva/Bye, LoganSYY
0.00​
168.76​
180.35​
180.35​
174.56​
180.83​
184.41​
184.41​
182.62​
0.00​
184.00​
0.00​
0
811.01​
Pham, Vanessa/Spiridonov, AntonSY4CCs
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
168.52​
174.69​
163.72​
0
209.79​
Wolfkostin, Katarina/Tsarevski, DimitryS/JYY/YJGPF
144.94​
166.88​
166.88​
155.91​
0.00​
0.00​
115.95​
115.95​
0.00​
149.74​
0.00​
0
643.84​
Yi, Grace/Savelev/DanilaSYN
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
134.62​
143.14​
0.00​
0
103.10​
Zingas, Emilea/Kolesnik, VadymSYY
0.00​
189.41​
189.48​
189.48​
189.45​
194.34​
196.07​
196.07​
195.21​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
3
861.13​

Ranking by GPF High Score -
1 - ChoBat 215.95
2 - CarPon 198.97
3 - GreenP 189.86
4 - ZingKol 189.48
5 - BraSom 185.88
6 - PateBye 180.35
7 - NesMark 179.38
8 - Browns 179.14

And by GPF Average Score -
1 - ChoBat 210.79
2 - CarPon 198.58
3 - ZingKol 189.45
4 - GreenP 189.31
5 - BraSom 179.48
6 - NesMark 177.99
7 - Browns 177.86
8 - PateBye 174.56

It feels like there is a really wide gap between the Top 5 and the three after that. BraSom and PateBye both suffer from one really bad GP event that they bounced back from with a 12 point increase in their total score at their 2nd GPs. I feel like it will be a fight for 6th through 8th with maybe PateBye coming out ahead since they've gone back to their last season's FD. BraSom may be able to make up some ground and slide into the 3rd spot for Worlds, but I think it's only going to be with errors from both GreenP & ZingKol (which is only too possible) - those other two really have punched a small gap between them and BraSom at this time and I think it's ultimately going to be a fight between them with BraSom getting the consolation prize of 5th place and an automatic bye to 2026 Nats.
 
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USFS published the official entries list for 2025 U.S. Nationals today - U.S. Ice Dance Final placements have been added below:

Senior Ice Dance (15):
  • Emily Bratti and Ian Somerville (bye)
  • Oona Brown and Gage Brown (bye)
  • Christina Carreira and Anthony Ponomarenko (bye)
  • Madison Chock and Evan Bates (bye)
  • Amy Cui and Jonathan Rogers (U.S. Ice Dance Final, 3rd)
  • Caroline Green and Michael Parsons (bye)
  • Raffaella Koncius and Alexey Shchepetov (U.S. Ice Dance Final, 2nd)
  • Michela Melillo and Karl Schapfel (U.S. Ice Dance Final, 6th)
  • Anabelle Morozov and Jeffrey Chen (U.S. Ice Dance Final, 1st)
  • Leah Neset and Artem Markelov (bye)
  • Eva Pate and Logan Bye (bye)
  • Vanessa Pham and Anton Spiridonov (U.S. Ice Dance Final, 4th)
  • Katarina Wolfkostin and Dimitry Tsarevski (bye - JGPF)
  • Grace Yi and Danila Savelev (U.S. Ice Dance Final, 5th)
  • Emilea Zingas and Vadym Kolesnik (bye)
Junior Ice Dance (12):
  • Hana Maria Aboian and Daniil Veselukhin (U.S. Ice Dance Final, 1st)
  • Effie Chen and Kenny Eckert (U.S. Ice Dance Final, 8th)
  • Michelle Deych and Ryan Hu (U.S. Ice Dance Final, 9th)
  • Julia Epps and Blake Gilman (U.S. Ice Dance Final, 7th)
  • Olivia Ilin and Dylan Cain (U.S. Ice Dance Final, 3rd)
  • Ja Yi Kirwan and Rowan Le Coq (U.S. Ice Dance Final, 11th)
  • Anaelle Kouevi and Yann Homawoo (U.S. Ice Dance Final, 10th)
  • Caroline Mullen and Brendan Mullen (U.S. Ice Dance Final, 2nd)
  • Elliana Peal and Ethan Peal (bye - JGPF)
  • Yahli Pedersen and Benjamin Starr (U.S. Ice Dance Final, 6th)
  • Emily Renzi and William Lissauer (U.S. Ice Dance Final, 5th)
  • Annelise Stapert and Maxim Korotcov (U.S. Ice Dance Final, 4th)
Novice Ice Dance (5):
  • Marian Carhart and Denis Bledsoe (U.S. Ice Dance Final, 1st)
  • Sophia Feige and Wiles Middlekauff (U.S. Ice Dance Final, 3rd)
  • Grace Fischer and Luke Fischer (U.S. Ice Dance Final, 2nd)
  • Clara Fugate and Warren Fugate (U.S. Ice Dance Final, 4th)
  • Annie Huang and Simon Mintz (U.S. Ice Dance Final, 5th)
 

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Bringing over my post from Oona & Gage Brown's fan thread:
Congrats to Oona & Gage on their GOLD medal in Budapest this past weekend! It’s their first Senior international victory! :cheer: https://www.instagram.com/p/DDFgPLDxBX5/

They scored 190.08 total - 75.86 1st in RD, 114.22 1st in FD (this was a Senior B so not counted as ISU PB/SB).

ISU Personal Best Total Score 187.62 28.10.2023 ISU GP Skate Canada International 2023
Personal Best Score Rhythm Dance 73.91 27.10.2023 ISU GP Skate Canada International 2023
Personal Best Score Free Dance 113.95 05.10.2024 ISU CS Denis Ten Memorial Challenge 2024

ISU Season Best Total Score 186.96 05.10.2024 ISU CS Denis Ten Memorial Challenge 2024
Season Best Score Rhythm Dance 73.35 16.11.2024 ISU GP Finlandia Trophy 2024
Season Best Score Free Dance 113.95 05.10.2024 ISU CS Denis Ten Memorial Challenge 2024
Hana Maria Aboian/Daniil Veselukhin also scored close to their ISU SB scores (64.31 / 95.81 / 160.12 at JGP Bangkok) in Budapest (63.27 / 95.27 / 158.54 at Santa Claus Cup) in winning the silver medal. Their FD video (from the paid livestream): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUzWpZAlZ44
 

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Ethan & Elliana Peal are back with their competition travel videos. :) They spent 2 days training in & walking around Lyon, France (cameo by Ambre Perrier Gianesini) before heading to the JGP Final in Grenoble:

MIDA’s post for Wolfkostin/Tsarevski:
 

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Bringing over my post from Oona & Gage Brown's fan thread:

Hana Maria Aboian/Daniil Veselukhin also scored close to their ISU SB scores (64.31 / 95.81 / 160.12 at JGP Bangkok) in Budapest (63.27 / 95.27 / 158.54 at Santa Claus Cup) in winning the silver medal. Their FD video (from the paid livestream): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUzWpZAlZ44
Hana and Daniil were incredibly close to getting gold at SC Cup! They bested the winning pair in technical merit for the RD and were beat by a mere fraction of a point in the FD.
 

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USFS article on the Peals by Kama Stigall (Dec. 3): 1-minute audio clip from their interview:
 

Karen-W

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One last update to the USFS ISU Championships Selection Pool table ahead of Nats for the sr-age eligible teams (teams in red do not have the ISU CTES mins) -

SkaterLevelAge EligibleISU Min Score2024 U.S. NatsGPFGP/ JGP 1GP/ JGP 2GP/ JPG HighestGP/ JGP AvgCS/ Sr B/ Jr Int 1CS/ Sr B/ Jr Int 2CS/ Sr B/ Jr Int HighestCS/ Sr B/ Jr Int AvgDance Final (Top 2 in each Section JR/SR)NQS Score (Top 2 in each Section JR/SR)Non-USFS Funded EventPrev Yr Final NumberTotal
Bratti, Emily/Somerville, IanSYY
0.00​
173.08​
185.88​
185.88​
179.48​
189.91​
190.86​
190.86​
190.39​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
2
820.35​
Brown, Oona/Brown, GageSYY
0.00​
179.14​
176.57​
179.14​
177.86​
186.96​
190.08​
190.08​
188.52​
0.00​
186.01​
0.00​
0
824.22​
Carreira, Christina/Ponomarenko, AnthonySYY
0.00​
198.97​
198.18​
198.97​
198.58​
197.51​
194.69​
197.51​
196.10​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
13
1036.52​
Chock, Madison/Bates, EvanSYY
219.85​
205.63​
215.95​
215.95​
210.79​
0.00​
0.00​
164.50​
164.50​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
16
1720.86​
Cui, Amy/Rogers, JonathanSYY
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
173.00​
170.92​
174.10​
0
216.28​
Green, Caroline/Parsons, MichaelSYY
0.00​
188.76​
189.86​
189.86​
189.31​
186.47​
149.18​
186.47​
167.82​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0
786.30​
Koncius, Raffaela/Shchepetov, AlexeySY4CCs
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
173.66​
169.55​
160.50​
0
209.47​
Melillo, Michela/Schapfel, KarlSYN
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
124.23​
128.21​
0.00​
0
94.17​
Morozov, Annabelle/Chen, JeffreySYY
0.00​
166.73​
133.38​
166.73​
150.06​
177.05​
141.64​
177.05​
159.35​
183.17​
163.74​
0.00​
0
825.06​
Neset, Leah/Markelov, ArtemS/JYY/Y
0.00​
179.38​
176.60​
179.38​
177.99​
175.33​
171.42​
175.33​
173.38​
0.00​
183.75​
0.00​
8
918.01​
Pate, Eva/Bye, LoganSYY
0.00​
168.76​
180.35​
180.35​
174.56​
180.83​
184.41​
184.41​
182.62​
0.00​
184.00​
0.00​
0
811.01​
Pham, Vanessa/Spiridonov, AntonSY4CCs
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
168.52​
174.69​
163.72​
0
209.79​
Wolfkostin, Katarina/Tsarevski, DimitryS/JYY/Y
164.98​
144.94​
166.88​
166.88​
155.91​
0.00​
0.00​
115.95​
115.95​
0.00​
149.74​
0.00​
0
1138.78​
Yi, Grace/Savelev, DanilaSYN
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
134.62​
143.14​
0.00​
0
103.10​
Zingas, Emilea/Kolesnik, VadymSYY
0.00​
189.41​
189.48​
189.48​
189.45​
194.34​
196.07​
196.07​
195.21​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
3
861.13​
 

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And the Jr-age eligible teams (teams in red do not have the ISU CTES mins) -

SkaterLevelAge EligibleISU Min Score2024 U.S. NatsGPFGP/ JGP 1GP/ JGP 2GP/ JPG HighestGP/ JGP AvgCS/ Sr B/ Jr Int 1CS/ Sr B/ Jr Int 2CS/ Sr B/ Jr Int HighestCS/ Sr B/ Jr Int AvgDance Final (Top 2 in each Section JR/SR)NQS Score (Top 2 in each Section JR/SR)Non-USFS Funded EventPrev Yr Final NumberTotal
Aboian, Hana Maria/Veselukhin, DaniilJYY
0.00​
160.12​
155.96​
160.12​
158.04​
0.00​
0.00​
124.77​
124.77​
167.62​
155.28​
158.54​
0
817.94​
Chen, Effie/Eckert, KennyJ?N
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
132.50​
126.52​
0.00​
0
97.88​
Deych, Michelle/Hu, RyanJYY
0.00​
121.85​
97.48​
121.85​
109.67​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
130.29​
133.69​
0.00​
0
387.96​
Epps, Julia/Gilman, BlakeJYN
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
133.94​
142.42​
0.00​
0
102.58​
Ilin, Olivia/Cain, DylanJYY
0.00​
137.15​
142.21​
142.21​
139.68​
0.00​
0.00​
113.77​
113.77​
145.90​
138.80​
0.00​
0
659.11​
Kirwan, Ja Yi/Le Coq, RowanJ?N
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
121.46​
127.91​
0.00​
0
92.71​
Kouevi, Anaelle/Homawoo, YannJ?N
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
0.00​
121.79​
134.69​
0.00​
0
94.57​
Mullen, Caroline/Mullen, BrendanJ (S)YY
0.00​
156.42​
161.16​
161.16​
158.79​
0.00​
0.00​
128.93​
128.93​
153.50​
168.24​
0.00​
0
744.37​
Neset, Leah/Markelov, ArtemS/JYY/Y
0.00​
179.38​
176.60​
179.38​
177.99​
175.33​
171.42​
175.33​
173.38​
0.00​
183.75​
0.00​
8
918.01​
Peal, Elliana/Peal, EthanJ (S)YY
143.08​
152.55​
160.50​
160.50​
156.53​
0.00​
0.00​
128.40​
128.40​
0.00​
145.27​
0.00​
0
1086.54​
Pedersen, Yahli/Starr, BenjaminJ (S)YY
0.00​
133.71​
141.58​
141.58​
137.65​
0.00​
0.00​
113.26​
113.26​
133.97​
0.00​
0.00​
0
614.23​
Renzi, Emily/Lissauer, WilliamJYY
0.00​
128.10​
102.48​
128.10​
115.29​
0.00​
0.00​
102.48​
102.48​
134.73​
136.44​
0.00​
0
585.05​
Stapert, Annelise/Korotcov, MaximJYN
0.00​
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