The 2021 Athletics Thread

allezfred said:
We can debate the merits of whether or not marijuana should be on the banned list or not, but the point is that as of now it is. As a professional, it is up to the athlete to make sure that they do not take any banned substances. It’s very simple.
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This. In the very first episode of Simone's Facebook documentary, she was sick. I was shocked by what all she went through just to be able to take meds for what might have been cold/flu, the calls to the team doctors to make sure she wasn't taking a banned substance. So, to knowing ingest marijuana as an athlete who is trying to qualify for the Olympics is just nuts. Even if it's not performance enhancing, it's still banned and you're putting your career at risk. If she took it for health reasons, she should have gotten with the team doctors and found an alternative.

The other thing that is so jacked up about marijuana is that it stays in your system for a long time, comparatively to other drugs. This might have been something she took a couple of weeks ago once and she's off the team. It's a shame, really.
 
I too am impressed with how she is handling it. She admits her mistake, she takes responsibility and the consequences. She has to be devastated but she's holding her head up. I'm sad cause I was excited to see the Olympic showdown between her and Fraser-Pryce. I'm sure she will learn from this mistake and it'll just fuel her in the future. And I hope young athletes will take note -both a lesson in how easy one dumb move can affect your career and a lesson in how to take accountability.
 
pachelbel said:
Definitely not a PED but I assume it's on the list to prohibit athletes like drivers from driving while under the influence.
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That's one of the reasons given but what about alcohol? It has the same impacts as listed for cannabis including being a pain killer.

Aceon6 said:
Heck, 99% of frequent users in my area know that it can take up to 3 weeks to be able to produce a clear sample. For a pro athlete not to know is beyond my comprehension.
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It can take even longer depending.

It is hard to understand her thinking though since she smoked it a few days before the trials and she had to know she would be tested.

canbelto said:
Apparently they're thinking of bringing her over for the relay. That would be nice.
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I don't understand how that works. If she can do the relay, why can't she do her event?
 
MacMadame said:
That's one of the reasons given but what about alcohol? It has the same impacts as listed for cannabis including being a pain killer.


It can take even longer depending.

It is hard to understand her thinking though since she smoked it a few days before the trials and she had to know she would be tested.


I don't understand how that works. If she can do the relay, why can't she do her event?
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She can't do the individual event because the USFSA runs a trials and their rules require that athletes be named for individual events strictly according to finish at the trials. Since her drug violation wiped out her finish at trials, she doesn't qualify. The rules give the team some flex on naming athletes for relays, which is why she might be named to a relay team.
 
She's 21 years old and found out from a reporter during an interview the week before trials that her biological mother had died. She turned to THC to deal with what must have been an incredible emotional shock. I don't think it's hard to understand that she may not have been thinking completely clearly in the moment.

She's taking her lumps and not asking for special treatment, but some of you might look up empathy in the dictionary.
 
BittyBug said:
She's 21 years old and found out from a reporter during an interview the week before trials that her biological mother had died. She turned to THC to deal with what must have been an incredible emotional shock. I don't think it's hard to understand that she may not have been thinking completely clearly in the moment.

She's taking her lumps and not asking for special treatment, but some of you might look up empathy in the dictionary.
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This.
 
BittyBug said:
She's taking her lumps and not asking for special treatment, but some of you might look up empathy in the dictionary.
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I must say it is refreshing to hear her admit her mistake straight up and not blame it on a bad burrito and too much sex (yes American athletes have used those excuses).

As noted previously in this thread she doesn’t have a good team around her and also there are plenty of athletes who have gone through loss and trauma this past year and yet they have been able to refrain from lighting up a joint.

The nationalistic outrage by American journalists and others in the media has been pretty eye opening to watch. It’s almost like they have zero understanding of how anti-doping substances list works. You have to wonder where their empathy towards Ekaterina Bobrova was when she got suspended for meldonium..... :shuffle:
 
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Aceon6 said:
Heck, 99% of frequent users in my area know that it can take up to 3 weeks to be able to produce a clear sample. For a pro athlete not to know is beyond my comprehension.
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The time is usually one month, depending on your fat composition. I have been greatly helped with THC for my chronic lower back injury. I don't smoke it, I eat them as gummy candies. I don't get "high", well, if they're strong sometimes I do! But anyway, ShaCarri broke the rules. There is NO excuse. Even if MJ should be legalized everywhere. It's a hell of a lot better for you than drinking yourself numb with vodka. And don't take this the wrong way, but ShaCarri does not strike me as someone with much intelligence, if any at all. I'm not judging, but it's helping me understand why a professional athlete who should know the timelines of drugs, all drugs really, and how it would affect a drug test, would take MJ of all things knowing you've got a month to sweat it out. Shoot, even druggies know that MJ stays with you a month, crack maybe 3 days. If you are worried about drug testing, then MJ is the one you DON'T want in your system.

It's sad, but she knew the rules. At least Michael Phelps failed his pot test out of competition. Imagine if he had been d/q'd all those Olympics because he had traces of MJ in his urine! Too bad, so sad, but those ARE the rules. Bad ones, but you can't expect to be an exception to the rules. Tough. break, ShaCarri.
 
canbelto said:
whoa. That's a loaded assumption right there. Unless she has some known intellectual or developmental disability that's awful to say about anyone.
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Don't you mean "If she has some known..."? If she does have some real and not imagined disability, then I would apologize immediately. But if she's just plain dumb, well, that's a 'disability' in itself asitwere, as shown here, when she couldn't think ahead 30 days when the MJ would be out of her system. Calling dumb people dumb is not awful. It's just the truth. Sometimes truth hurts. I don't know what to tell you. How could anyone not think she was an idiot for putting herself in this situation? At least she's owning it all, no excuses. It's stupid to ban MJ, but them's the rules. I can't imagine what her agent/agency is thinking right now. I can hear the screaming right now "How were we to know she'd be stupid enough to ingest MJ during Olympic Trials?!?!?!" Call me awful all you want, but any reasonable person would think something's wrong with her head. Calling her dumb is being nice to her in light of this situation. Charitable, even. IMHO.
 
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ErikWilliam said:
Don't you mean "If she has some known..."? If she does have some real and not imagined disability, then I would apologize immediately. But if she's just plain dumb, well, that's a 'disability' in itself asitwere, as shown here, when she couldn't think ahead 30 days when the MJ would be out of her system. Calling dumb people dumb is not awful. It's just the truth. Sometimes truth hurts. I don't know what to tell you. How could anyone not think she was an idiot for putting herself in this situation? At least she's owning it all, no excuses. It's stupid to ban MJ, but them's the rules. I can't imagine what her agent/agency is thinking right now. I can hear the screaming right now "How were we to know she'd be stupid enough to ingest MJ during Olympic Trials?!?!?!"
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She did something dumb. You called her "dumb" like that's immovable. I'm a teacher and if another teacher said that about a kid that's a problem. You can't call people "dumb" like that can never change and people can never learn. That's offensive.

It's also racist. You would never say that about a white woman.
 
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