#TeamTrainwreck 9: Next Splat Station: Pyeongchang

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Vagabond said:
And Worlds is (usually) a little more competitive than Nebelhorn. And yet we know which is the more important event. :gallopin1
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Of course. Nebelhorn is my favorite event. That is why the second place finisher Alex Johnson is someone I would like to propose to the team. I am at work and can't do a full proposal, but I think he is worthy.
 
Cleo1782 said:
Of course. Nebelhorn is my favorite event. That is why the second place finisher Alex Johnson is someone I would like to propose to the team. I am at work and can't do a full proposal, but I think he is worthy.
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I like Johnson but he's not that voidy and as lovely as his skating is with that TES level his mediocre results are hard to argue against. Plus he's american and there's a slight anti-bias towards US skaters around here. :p
 
SamuraiK said:
I like Johnson but he's not that voidy and as lovely as his skating is with that TES level his mediocre results are hard to argue against. Plus he's american and there's a slight anti-bias towards US skaters around here. :p
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You are probably right. He was so good in 2013, but he really hasn't shown any technical progression in years. He does come out blazing in the SP and generally bomb his long programs, though. His off ice personality is very voidy, but I am not sure if that comes off on social media or just because I know him. Personal bias I guess lol. He once told me he should have switched to Canada like Keegan Messing. I mean, if Messing is what you are aspiring to be you belong on this team....
Besides I love when Tara Lipinski said he would have won everything in the 90's...Such shade.
 
Jeschke said:
DENIAL! :cheer2:
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:drama: To be expected......Looking at the good vs. bad performances while attempting research I found only 2 international medals and 0 grand prix appearances. If he somehow makes it to 4cc's this year perhaps I can mount a better campaign. His season's best is only a point off of Ross's. Just sayin.....:slinkaway
 
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Jeschke said:
There goes your chance for any succesful campaign ever :EVILLE:
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Listen, I like Ross "the Boss" Miner more than most, but this season he's been more Ross "the mailroom guy" than anything. I am hoping for Ross and Grantoline to slay at Nationals and I will be in the front row for that. I am all about Zhang for Pyeongchang!
 
Jeschke said:
Okay, you're back in the game :cool:


I wouldn't mind Ross delivering :smokin:
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I was one of 5 people (not on the USFS selection committee) in 2011 that was cheering to send Dornbush, Miner, and Bradley over Abbott to Worlds (ugh...points against me for my Bradley love). But Ross is a solid all around nice guy, so I cheer for him every year he is 2nd after the short and believe he will actually make the team every time.
 
Cleo1782 said:
You are probably right. He was so good in 2013, but he really hasn't shown any technical progression in years. He does come out blazing in the SP and generally bomb his long programs, though. His off ice personality is very voidy, but I am not sure if that comes off on social media or just because I know him. Personal bias I guess lol. He once told me he should have switched to Canada like Keegan Messing. I mean, if Messing is what you are aspiring to be you belong on this team....
Besides I love when Tara Lipinski said he would have won everything in the 90's...Such shade.
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I'm trying to figure out what Keegan Messing gained by switching to Canada. Wasn't he about 6th at Canadian Nationals last year, which was about the same place he was the last time he competed at U.S. Nationals?
 
aliceanne said:
I'm trying to figure out what Keegan Messing gained by switching to Canada. Wasn't he about 6th at Canadian Nationals last year, which was about the same place he was the last time he competed at U.S. Nationals?
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No idea. His issues have nothing to do with the country and everything to do with the coaching. I think he is a halfway decent skater if he decided to package himself well. The US judges were willing to give him the marks-his skating prevented him from getting them every time.
 
Cleo1782 said:
I was one of 5 people (not on the USFS selection committee) in 2011 that was cheering to send Dornbush, Miner, and Bradley over Abbott to Worlds (ugh...points against me for my Bradley love). But Ross is a solid all around nice guy, so I cheer for him every year he is 2nd after the short and believe he will actually make the team every time.
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5? Seriously, there were 4 others? :lol:
 
Cleo1782 said:
No idea. His issues have nothing to do with the country and everything to do with the coaching. I think he is a halfway decent skater if he decided to package himself well. The US judges were willing to give him the marks-his skating prevented him from getting them every time.
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I like his packaging this year. That LP is great this year, full of character & tasty nuances.
 
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aliceanne said:
I'm trying to figure out what Keegan Messing gained by switching to Canada.
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Keegan was stuck in "Senior B hell" in the U.S. Since he switched to Canada, he has competed in 3 Senior GPs and has qualified for the Canadian national team twice (out of 3 tries). And he's one of the many contenders for the 2nd Olympic spot. I think he made a good/smart decision.

http://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs_cr_00010278.htm
 
Keegan has gained Grand Prix events/experience and given the weak CAN field he's at least a contender for the 2nd olympic spot something Johnson could only dream of.
 
aliceanne said:
I'm trying to figure out what Keegan Messing gained by switching to Canada. Wasn't he about 6th at Canadian Nationals last year, which was about the same place he was the last time he competed at U.S. Nationals?
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As stated above, he has gained more opportunities to compete at the elite level. And with opportunity, athletes gain confidence/international recognition/insight into what it takes to compete at that level. Keegan is still inconsistent. He still makes mistakes in competition that aren't necessarily related to the mistakes he makes in practice. But he has upgraded his content, and he has placed internationally. He is in the conversation for an Olympic berth, with far less of a track record than it would likely take him to be in that conversation at U.S. Nationals. I always enjoyed seeing him at Nationals when he competed for the U.S., and I'm really glad that he is competing for Canada. I had never seen him in international competition before he switched, and now I've had the chance to see him live at Skate Canada twice. He has always had a crowd-centered personality, and it is nice to see a much wider internationally televised audience having the chance to watch him skate. It's a win, IMO. Keegan has gained more opportunities to compete, and we have gained more opportunities to see him do so.
 
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