German Skating News - Part 3

[sandra_persch]

Looks like Dastich finally got over her growth spurt and just in time. I read in a recent article that she had a really hatd time earlier in the season getting used to her longer limbs again.

Here is hoping for a good day tomorrow too.

 

[sandra_persch]

Reading this article (sorry only in German and mostly about the 2nd German National competition) is seems like Herceg only ever intended to do her Senior short program at Cup of Tyrol as she is in the middle of high school finals "Abitur"

http://www.mittelbayerische.de/spor...ceg-zeigen-ihre-kuenste-21524-art1354705.html

The same article also indicates that 5 German ladies will be send to Canada for summer training. Last season it was Bock, Dastich, Hocke and Herceg so I would guess its those 4 again plus hopefully Schott or Isaev.

 

[Jeschke]

The same article also indicates that 5 German ladies will be send to Canada for summer training. Last season it was Bock, Dastich, Hocke and Herceg so I would guess its those 4 again plus hopefully Schott or Isaev.

If only Bock could come back with two decent programs

#teamschott

 

[Dolore]

Today ZDF will show a 1h long documentary about K. Witt. She and Rudi Cerne will travel to important places of her past and chat with Thomas Bach, Robert De Niro and others.
It starts at 7 pm

 

[Dolore]

Sorry, it's on ARD, not ZDF.
( I can't edit my post for some reason ).

 

[Irish-Angel]

I´ve just watched the documentary about Katarina Witt and in my opinion the talk between Ingo and Katarina was one of the most moving parts in the film. It was so important that Ingo finally did that step. He sounded honest and regretful. I still think of him as a victim as well.

 

[SmallFairy]

I´ve just watched the documentary about Katarina Witt and in my opinion the talk between Ingo and Katarina was one of the most moving parts in the film. It was so important that Ingo finally did that step. He sounded honest and regretful. I still think of him as a victim as well.

In a documentary about Witt Swedish TV showed during Europeans, Ingo was also interwieved. (I don't know if its the same one, I can't remember him and Katarina actually met and spoke). I really felt for Ingo afterwards, he told the Stasi people had showed up at his door at home when he was only seventeen. They "asked" him to sign some papers, if he didn't, well, you know... And so, he was forced into spying on his friend and teammate Katarina. I certainly also see him as a victim. I know I would be so afraid if I were him, at that age, I would have done they same thing out of fear....

 

[Irish-Angel]

In a documentary about Witt Swedish TV showed during Europeans, Ingo was also interwieved. (I don't know if its the same one, I can't remember him and Katarina actually met and spoke). I really felt for Ingo afterwards, he told the Stasi people had showed up at his door at home when he was only seventeen. They "asked" him to sign some papers, if he didn't, well, you know... And so, he was forced into spying on his friend and teammate Katarina. I certainly also see him as a victim. I know I would be so afraid if I were him, at that age, I would have done they same thing out of fear....

I´m not sure, did they meet in Chemnitz?
In this documentary the´ve met in Chemnitz and had the talk in the Katarinas car. Ingos two most important messages were:
1.) exactly what you told before: that he´s been practically blackmailed into obedience by a STASI member.
2.) that, even if he hadn´t lied to them, he only gave away basic information about Katarina.

 

[Sylvia]

Some of the German World team members are in Newington, Connecticut before traveling to Boston Worlds - @smurfy posted impressions from the show that took place there earlier today: http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/ind...-on-march-26-2016-at-2-pm.98182/#post-4748183

Savchenko & Massot - loved seeing them live for the first time. I have always thought she was amazing. They did their short program, I felt they skated safe. Nice split and a good throw. This is my bias - I really really want to love them, but I do miss Robin. Bruno is very impressive, but he pales vs Robin. Over time, I guess. But I loved Aliona with Robin. But it is nice to have her on US ice.
Franz Streubel- german man for Worlds -Spoke to the crowd, pulled his tendon earlier in the day and doctor order him to rest for a few days, so he did not skate. Hope he gets to skate in Boston. He did take the ice for the final bows.

Also, does anyone know if Ingo Steuer is back in Germany?

 

[Jeschke]

Ouch. German press is really really harsh with Weinzierl.
http://www.sport.de/news/ne2154681/feeling-bad-weinzierl-verpasst-finale/

 

[Nomad]

I hope she doesn't read that.

 

[sandra_persch]

Are skaters not allowed or was she just so shocked that it never occurred to her to put a 2T behind the 3Lz after her unfortunate fall on the 3F?

 

[Nomad]

Are skaters not allowed or was she just so shocked that it never occurred to her to put a 2T behind the 3Lz after her unfortunate fall on the 3F?

They're allowed. More than onedid, IIRC.

 

[eurodance2001]

I hope she doesn't read that.. "embarrassing failure" is harsh..

 

[jiejie]

I was rather shocked and bummed by the performance of the German singles' skaters. They both had exceptionally bad competitions at the same time which is unfortunate, but neither looked like they wanted to even be at Worlds. I know Germany can do better than this. The ice dancers--a different story. They will be great in a couple of seasons, mark my words. They have "It." They are young and he is new to ice dancing....my jaw dropped when I saw how good he already is. The potential is there. We just have to teach rink announcers around the world to practice their names' pronunciations "Panagiotis Polizoakis Panagiotis Polizoakis Panagiotis Polizoakis..."

I am hopeful for Savchenko/Massot a few hours from now.

 

[jiejie]

I am hopeful for Savchenko/Massot...

Congrats to Germany. Like I said. Gotta have a little faith.

 

[text_skate]

article on Savchenko/Massot before competition started in German newspaper FAZ: http://www.faz.net/aktuell/sport/me...schen-anspruch-und-wirklichkeit-14154025.html
I guess tomorrow there will be a differnet article on reality

BTW: Gotta have a little luck, too

 

[Messalina]

Amidst the shards and ruins of other pairs' hopes and dreams (and the shreds of their dignity), I am absolutely, 100% ecstatic about this medal for Germany.

Herzlichen Glückwunsch, Aljona & Bruno !


ETA: What a great pre-comp article of very very modest expectations.

 

[Jeschke]

Aliona is already working on new programs
https://www.instagram.com/p/BD3VF9_kDsU/?taken-by=aljonasavchenko

Is this John Zimmerman in the picture?
Isn't Steuer at this rink?

 

[Loves_Shizuka]

So happy about SavMass What a debut! Silver at Euros and bronze at Worlds, beating all three Russians (... too)

Herzliche Glückwünsche!!!!!

Can't wait for the new programmes

 

[orbitz]

I hope Sav & Massot can fix the two feet landings on their throws. They do it too often for it to be a good thing.

 

[kirkbiggestfan]

Aliona is already working on new programs
https://www.instagram.com/p/BD3VF9_kDsU/?taken-by=aljonasavchenko

Is this John Zimmerman in the picture?
Isn't Steuer at this rink?

Who is helping with the choreography? John Kerr on the picture?

 

[Sylvia]

If the rink is the Panthers IceDen in Coral Springs, Florida, John Zimmerman and John Kerr both coach there (Steuer used to coach there but I assume he is back in Germany - can anyone confirm?).

 

[Loves_Shizuka]

Yes, wo ist Ingo?

 

[Lisa]

I was rather shocked and bummed by the performance of the German singles' skaters.

Same here

I know Germany can do better than this.

I certainly hope so, though I don't see it Sorry, I don't want to be negative, but well, I grew up when we had skaters like Rudi Cerne, Norbert Schramm, Heiko Fischer, Claudia Leistner, later Marina Kielmann ... And now?

Can anybody with more inside knowledge tell me what's going wrong?

 

[care bear]

I do not have any inside, but I think the sport became more difficult and exhausting. You should be a full time skater as a teenager. And this does not match with our schools with 30-32 hours of lessons and compulsory attendance. Forethermore parents want to give their children a good high school diploma. I read on icenetwork that Tsurskaya goes to school only one time a week. That would be never possible in Germany.

 

[Lisa]

Going to school once a week is certainly not possible here in Germany, but OTOH there are schools who offer special solutions for kids who are do competitive sports. BTW, I don't think that Germany is the only country all over the world where an athlete is expected to attend school in order to have a diploma. Your thoughts?

 

[Xela M]

I do not have any inside, but I think the sport became more difficult and exhausting. You should be a full time skater as a teenager. And this does not match with our schools with 30-32 hours of lessons and compulsory attendance. Forethermore parents want to give their children a good high school diploma. I read on icenetwork that Tsurskaya goes to school only one time a week. That would be never possible in Germany.

Medvedeva also only has a teacher come to her rink once a week to give her lessons, but she's allowed to take the same exams as other kids her age

 

[hanca]

Going to school once a week is certainly not possible here in Germany, but OTOH there are schools who offer special solutions for kids who are do competitive sports. BTW, I don't think that Germany is the only country all over the world where an athlete is expected to attend school in order to have a diploma. Your thoughts?

In the UK, even though it is compulsory for children to receive education, there is no requirement that it happens at school. The parents can decide that the child will be home tutored. And the quality of that varies. Whereas some parents actually arrange tutors to come and teach that kid, other parents teach that child themselves (sometimes without them having any decent education themselves). And what makes it even worse is that there is no one really checking whether those children are taught or not. So the child may be able to read/write and do the basic maths to be able to count money in the future, and that's it. There are no tests or exams that the child would have to pass every year to show that they actually were learning something. I have seen quite a few children here loving skating far too much a parents let them skate and 'teach them' at home. Those children are often only average skaters, not really standing out. Then the puberty comes, they quit skating and end up with no skating and no education. Sad! On the other hand, unlike in some other countries, here it is possible to come back to education even as an adult, they call it here 'mature student', so if someone is motivated enough, they can rectify any mistakes they made in the past.

 

[Lisa]

Thanks for the input How about Japan, for example?