From Russia With Love (No 32): Spring to Summer 2019

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I think this could be a good move for T/M. They have the technical goods, but seem really unsure what to do as performers. Zoueva did great work with G/G and has delivered strong pairs choreo throughout the years. The sort of classical, restrained style she favours is a good fit for T/M as well. If they want to compete for the Worlds/Olys gold, a bold decision like that is needed. Good for them and I wish them luck! :)
 
A Kanysheva fan account on Instagram, @teamakanysheva, posted in their Instastories that her new programs are "Remember Me" by Yerkesh Shakeyev (SP) and "The Four Seasons: parts of Spring 1, 2 & 3" (recomposed by Max Richter) (LP). I'm not sure where they got this -- it looks like it came from some Q&A or something -- so I won't put it in the Programs & Choreographers thread until it's confirmed. Just wanted to put it out there for fans.
 
A Kanysheva fan account on Instagram, @teamakanysheva, posted in their Instastories that her new programs are "Remember Me" by Yerkesh Shakeyev (SP) and "The Four Seasons: parts of Spring 1, 2 & 3" (recomposed by Max Richter) (LP). I'm not sure where they got this -- it looks like it came from some Q&A or something -- so I won't put it in the Programs & Choreographers thread until it's confirmed. Just wanted to put it out there for fans.
many young russian skaters go on some kind of "ask.me" programme and answer live questions on line periodically. from the "inside the rink girls' chats" it seems like all Tutberidze's Junior girls have their programmes worked out, since they are skating first in the season before seniors, so it is very likely that Kanysheva has both of her programmes lined out. But nothing official yet so far.

What is happening already on line is some mix ups with using "Alena" or "Alena K." on chats/blogs/sites
- Alena Kostornaya and Alena Kanysheva being in the same group... :lol:
 
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I was secretly hoping for Tatiana Tarasova for their new coach because of her success with Yagudin and K&P.
 

I actually think this is a great idea. Zoueva was a genius in pairs with Gordeeva/Grinkov; she is a very tough coach, but I think she understands how to deal with different personalities and present skaters in new ways. Keeping Mozer part-time will give Evgenia the security she needs, and Mozer won’t feel burdened by trying to coach both Tarasova/Morozov and Zabiiako/Enbert full time.

I kinda wanted them to go to Perm to train with Morozov, with Tarasova choreographing. Tarasova & Morozov times two :lol:

LOL imagine that! But Nikolai, keep your hands off beautiful Evgenia!

Honestly though, I think it’d be awkward having T/M share a rink with Stolbova/Novoselov, especially given the current relationship between Stolbova and Morozov *pukes*

Stolbova/Novoselov are the "new stars" in Perm...;)

And rightfully so! Any updates on them?
 
By the way, can someone translate this piece on Elena Ilinykh and Sergei Polunin? My Russian is “ochen’ plokha” ?
https://www.1tv.ru/-/ivdhv
Just a fluff piece on national tv dedicated to the international dance day. They talked about their relationship, how they met each other , if they had heard about each other before and etc.
He talked about his work with children and new position at the dance academy in Sevastopol (Crimea),

They are working on a project together - main focus will be on Elena as all other participants are ballet dancers and she is the only figure skater. He says that she moves in a different way and it's interesting for him.
Later they talked about 'The White Crow' and Ralph Fiennes , since Sergei played one of the ballet dancers in that movie.
In the end they danced together on the floor (+/- 25:00)
Here's Youtube link if anyone is interested - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqmSdkl1axw&feature=youtu.be
 
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By the way, can someone translate this piece on Elena Ilinykh and Sergei Polunin? My Russian is “ochen’ plokha” ?

https://www.1tv.ru/-/ivdhv
They admit being a pair, they met in the airport in Munich and just continued to the hotel, he haven't really heard of her before, she was following ballet and knew who he was, but hardly more. She went through her phone photos and apparently when 3 years ago she needed some `Spartacus' poses etc she saved a couple of photos of Polunin on her phone without thinking who he was. They are thinking of a project together, that will involve Elena dancing and not necessarily skating, though she is still trying to convince to skate there rather than dance, the concept is not yet completely decided. They had a `how well do you know each other' game and all and all did fine. She is a great cook but they didn't yet have a chance to enjoy her cooking because they spend too much time travelling around etc
 
New interview with Mikhail Kolyada

He spent 10 days in the hospital after Worlds, feels better now. They chose Charlie Chaplin for the free program (choreo by Olga Kliushnichenko, who is now Olga Zotova) and still looking for the music for the SP.
He is planning to do 4Lz again next season.
Good choice! His exhibition to Chaplin was very good. Probably the best Chaplin program in years.
 
Are there any news about whether their effort will actually lead to attending at least one competition?
The last info in the press (afaik) is from April 22, from Vasiliev. He said "this team may be able to surprise us next season - the crystal ball tells it is quite possible". not much else is said.
https://rsport.ria.ru/20190422/1552948523.html

There is a stol/nov fan account in IG, not yet at photos of skating, but a cool Ksenya foto..
https://www.instagram.com/p/BwiTNe-HFzb/

Maxim Kovtun is now a judge of "Ice Age - Kids 2" (how many segments he will judge is not listed)
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bw38rqPluy-/?utm_source=ig_embed
 
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The last info in the press (afaik) is from April 22, from Vasiliev. He said "this team may be able to surprise us next season - the crystal ball tells it is quite possible". not much else is said.
https://rsport.ria.ru/20190422/1552948523.html

There is a stol/nov fan account in IG, not yet at photos of skating, but a cool Ksenya foto..
https://www.instagram.com/p/BwiTNe-HFzb/
It wouldn’t be that hard to surprise me. I would be surprised if they just attended at least one competition.
 
Marina and T/M definitely have potential to be great so I'm excited. I know they want to try a lot of things style wise but hopefully Marina will be persuasive enough to steer them correctly. I do trust her judgement so more bad clueless programs! :cheer2:

But why aren't they cutting the cord with Mozer completely? Evgenia really needs her that much? :confused:
 
Just a fluff piece on national tv dedicated to the international dance day. They talked about their relationship, how they met each other , if they had heard about each other before and etc.
He talked about his work with children and new position at the dance academy in Sevastopol (Crimea),

They are working on a project together - main focus will be on Elena as all other participants are ballet dancers and she is the only figure skater. He says that she moves in a different way and it's interesting for him.
Later they talked about 'The White Crow' and Ralph Fiennes , since Sergei played one of the ballet dancers in that movie.
In the end they danced together on the floor (+/- 25:00)
Here's Youtube link if anyone is interested - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqmSdkl1axw&feature=youtu.be
They admit being a pair, they met in the airport in Munich and just continued to the hotel, he haven't really heard of her before, she was following ballet and knew who he was, but hardly more. She went through her phone photos and apparently when 3 years ago she needed some `Spartacus' poses etc she saved a couple of photos of Polunin on her phone without thinking who he was. They are thinking of a project together, that will involve Elena dancing and not necessarily skating, though she is still trying to convince to skate there rather than dance, the concept is not yet completely decided. They had a `how well do you know each other' game and all and all did fine. She is a great cook but they didn't yet have a chance to enjoy her cooking because they spend too much time travelling around etc

Thank you both so much for your translations!

There is a stol/nov fan account in IG, not yet at photos of skating, but a cool Ksenya foto..
https://www.instagram.com/p/BwiTNe-HFzb/

Oh, that's my friend's page! She's the sweetest :)
This is mine: https://www.instagram.com/stolbovanovoselovfan/
 
Marina and T/M definitely have potential to be great so I'm excited. I know they want to try a lot of things style wise but hopefully Marina will be persuasive enough to steer them correctly. I do trust her judgement so more bad clueless programs! :cheer2:

But why aren't they cutting the cord with Mozer completely? Evgenia really needs her that much? :confused:
Marina uses manipulation techniques. She will decide what they need and will do whatever necessary to get it from them using everything and anything to get it from them. There are no rules. And she demands the most in training. They will be trained and perfect and will have a good package for sure. Also Johnny Johns is there with her and he helped a lot in lifts etc with V/M.
 
Dunno, remembering the Zzzzzz SinKats were with Zueva am very mildly optimistic
I think sinkats approved quite a bit with Zueva but at the time Viktoria was still way below him in skating skills so he was still doing a lot of dragging her around.....he was still suffering a lot from a shoulder injury so in constant pain and was whining because she demanded a lot of hard work and dedication. I guess he was miserable and that may have triggered the character flaws that had him smacking Viktoria around in open practice session which led to them leaving the rink and country right away. Who knows what it might have led to later on if not interrupted. This could be a good matchup to get T/M back on track and there is everything at the new facility available to add all the pieces in. Marina does not have very many dance teams and this could be a good way for her to pick up pair teams for choreo.
 
Marina uses manipulation techniques. She will decide what they need and will do whatever necessary to get it from them using everything and anything to get it from them. There are no rules. And she demands the most in training. They will be trained and perfect and will have a good package for sure. Also Johnny Johns is there with her and he helped a lot in lifts etc with V/M.
Where do you get this impression of Marina? I never got the impression that any of her top dance teams were manipulated or controlled. Much more that they were all self-starters choosing to work super-hard toward their goals. The Shibs in particular took hold of their own programs. Not that I'm not looking forward to seeing T/M at their very best and even beyond what we've seen artistically if she can help them pull that off.
 
Where do you get this impression of Marina? I never got the impression that any of her top dance teams were manipulated or controlled. Much more that they were all self-starters choosing to work super-hard toward their goals. The Shibs in particular took hold of their own programs. Not that I'm not looking forward to seeing T/M at their very best and even beyond what we've seen artistically if she can help them pull that off.
I'm guessing that's a reference to how she talked about intentionally playing V/M and D/W off each other in training. She said if say Charlie was struggling with an element, she'd tell him that Scott had done it perfectly earlier, even if that wasn't true. I suppose that could be characterized as manipulation, although that's not my word.
 
I'm guessing that's a reference to how she talked about intentionally playing V/M and D/W off each other in training. She said if say Charlie was struggling with an element, she'd tell him that Scott had done it perfectly earlier, even if that wasn't true. I suppose that could be characterized as manipulation, although that's not my word.

I guess every mother who tells her kid "look at Jimmy, he got all A's" is an evil manipulator...... :rofl:
 
New interview with Aleksandra Boikova and Dmitrii Kozlovskii

- You competed at the high-level competitions this season, and it's another level of responsibility, more pressure. How did you cope with this?

Dmitrii: From the very beginning of the season we tried to discover this new level for ourselves, so it's rather strange to talk about pressure. We didn't dwell on it. First of all, we tried to show our best skating - to skate cleaner, clearer, in synch; in order to prove ourselves on the world stage. And we succeeded. For Sasha and me: the more people in the audience - the better, it's easier to perform.

Aleksandra: I can add from myself, that the whole season we tried to skate more maturely. I tried to do everything more consciously than last year. I also tried to "make friends with my brain" and it actually happened. We are happy with the season. Yes, Dima?

Dmitry: Of course. We talked about this many times.

- Which competition is the most memorable?

Dmitrii: Of course, the World Championship. It was not that easy, preceded by hard and systematic preparation. And Japan isn't close. You see, the World Cup is the key, the most important competition of the season, and the fact that we were able to show our best in Japan evokes strong emotions. It is impossible not to recall the European Championship as well. Our first medal on this level! And nevertheless the World Championship is the most memorable one.

Aleksandra: I also remember the Grand Prix event in Canada. Our first major international competition, we met with skaters of our team there, met with the guys from other countries. Why do I remember that event in Canada? Because we skated cleanly and became only forth. And I remember how Dima and Morgan (Cipres - note) comforted me. And for a long time I could't recover. So if we talk about the first half of the season, the most memorable event for me was “Skate Canada”. And in the second half - Euros and Worlds. A spent a lot of energy preparing for these events. I remember, I was delighted when I realize that Worlds are on the same week as my school holidays, so it was easier to cope with studies.

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- Nowadays most of the senior couples have more or less the same elements, same jump sets and etc. What can you do to compete with them?

Dmitrii: Now pair skating became more like ice dancing, because everyone does almost the same elements, and we want to add some more complicated technical elements. For example, new jumps. But you need to be 100% sure to add them into programs.

Aleksandra: Only when you jump a hundred out of a hundred.

Dmitrii: I would say ten out of ten. As for the rest, according to the new rules, I am not sure if it makes sense to learn, for example, a quadruple twist.

Aleksandra: And I would really like to learn a quad throw. But our coach has a different point of view.

Dmitrii: Artur Leonidovich (Minchuk) understands that quad throws are traumatic. And since the throw landings are much more difficult than jumps, as they requires more energy, more height. And you can easily get hurt while training it. So it turns out that you will spend a huge amount of energy, but one mistake on an element like this will throw you far back.

If the difference in points in pair skating was at least the same as it is in singles, then it would be worthwhile to learn difficult elements. For example in singles: a triple salchow is 4 points, and a quad salchow is 10. Then it’s worth the risk. And if a quad twist with a little mistake cost less points than a very goos triple twist, then why you need to try this element? At Russian Nats there was a couple who did a quad twist and they received less points than other pairs with good triple twists. And it happened despite the fact that quad twist is difficult to do physically for both partners. It is almost impossible to do a split on the quad twist; and you can execute a quad tans-twist on;y with a 10kg "cat". So you need to add difficulty only by executing the "guaranteed" elements, which you can do consistently. This also applies to both pair elements, and jumps. But sooner or later everything can be learnt and done, so I believe that we need to develop in this aspect.

- If we are talking about jumps - you have 3-3 combination. Are you planning to add something new?

Dmitrii: We are working on all triple jumps now. We have a separate time dedicated only to jumps. We are jumping, working on them, and we'll see later which ones will turn out to be more consistent. But I am convinced that difficult jumps are the future, probably even at the Beijing Olympics. Therefore, one way or another, if we want to compete with top teams who get all 10 in PCS and +5 GOE, then we need to move in this direction. Today, top teams are coming close to the maximum scores with error-free skating. And in order to get on that level, we try to work and develop in all aspects. Of course, we want to win, but there is no athlete who doesn't want this. And we understand that we need to work very hard and make efforts to become better and achieve our goals.

- Did your relationship change during this season?

Aleksandra: Dima and I have known each other for a long time, we have learnt each other characters, but, probably, this year we started to feel each other better as partners.

Dmitrii: You see, every year we get better and better in terms of on ice connection. We learn new transitions, turns, and even programs are easier for us now, because we already know how to do things together. When we started to skate, we didn’t understand how it's possible to di kilian - it’s so difficult! And now we are performing steps and blocks, and we are working much faster, because every year we are on our interactions. Why do Gabriella Papadakis and Guillaume Cizeron skate this way? Because they have been holding each other hands from the age of 8. Why did Tessa Virtue and Scott Moir skate like this? Because they were skating together from childhood. The more you train, the more different situations arise and you have to adjust. And when they arise for the hundredth time, you already know what you need to be do, because you already have this experience.

They are working on their SP with Natalia Bestemianova and Igor Bobrin, Nikolai Morozov will choreograph their LP
 
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Where do you get this impression of Marina? I never got the impression that any of her top dance teams were manipulated or controlled. Much more that they were all self-starters choosing to work super-hard toward their goals. The Shibs in particular took hold of their own programs. Not that I'm not looking forward to seeing T/M at their very best and even beyond what we've seen artistically if she can help them pull that off.
From her interviews...When she was coach to V/M and D/W she did an interview about training situation for the 2 teams. She said if someone ie Charlie could not get a move she would tell him Scott can do it (which she said was not true) so he would go out and try harder to get the move. She seemed quite proud of her little tricks. That is manipulation.

In another interview - this time about Sinkats, NK said she worked them very hard and he was having a tuff time doing it.
Yes both DW and VM were very motivated hard workers so they really pushed themselves. Before Tessa's compartement syndrone they would be the first team to arrive and the last to leave.
 
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