Tinami Amori
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Alena Kanysheva with her rink mates and partner in a local rink competition.
Pluschenko has done a lot to earn disregard of many fans and turn them into haters. He can't stay even few days without limelight and a havoc around his persona. As of yesterday he is fighting via social media with the director of Sambo-70 and Yagudin yet again. Those fans who supported him vs. Yagudin for many years, are now turning away from him.
Eteri takes young skater who on their own free will come to her (from Moscow and other parts of Russia). When they come to her she does not guarantee that a) she'll accept them into her group, b) that they will pass the several weeks worth of trial period.
She has not ever INITIATED any messages or invitations to these skaters.
She also enquires for reasons why they left previous coaches, and check that there is no conflict involved.
And, most skaters come to her BEFORE they become famous and well awarded.
Considering that this has been an ongoing problem since at least 2017, this shouldn't even be a question. Zhulin and Katsalapov had no business in even agreeing with her that stepping on that ice was a good idea. Ilinykh was not entertaining his requests for practice as usual in their 2012/13 season when she dislocated her shoulder and she paid dearly for taking that stance. In ice dance the girls, IMHO, are treated as pieces of meat and it is disturbing to see it play out. Was it necessary for Vika to come to the ice for them to know she could not skate? When does being obedient become licence to abuse someone? It looks pretty closr to it here. An objective evaluation wasn't possible remotely? Yes Katsalapov is complicit but I would not expect him to know better because that is the culture, but a coach with all his experience should jave known better.Vika needs to step away and heal. As hard as that is to do, it has to be done. Now would be the ideal time. The situation will not improve until they do something meaningful about it. Rest and recover.
Are the results listed somewhere? I am curious.Alena Kanysheva with her rink mates and partner in a local rink competition.
It is normal to cry if you fall but also normal to smile if you do not. The fact that an audience full of smiling cheering people does appear to give her any joy or even trigger an automatic performance-smile is a red flag to me as far as far as being genuinely concerned about the welfare of children in a sport I care about. When I began experiencing abuse and depression as a teenager I went about my life as normal but completely lost the ability to smile. Adults called me "serious" and "left me alone" and I wish they hadn't.
The real melodrama is Zhulin knew the state that Vika was in and still allowed her to skate. The melodram is Eteri subtling throwing shade at Kostornaia for not performing the more difficult LP knowing there was injury. The melodrama is Zhulin throwing barbs at Medvedeva for not competing at these Russia cups due to injury to save face? My concern is with a culture that does not protect the athletes, yet Zhulin will be the first to suggest that coaches must be protected from the departure of athletes and even fined up to 10 mil rubles? That is my concern. S/K soon enough will retire but there will still be Zhulins and others of his ilk being despicable.I'm really worried and definitely one of S/K's biggest fans on this board but it feels like the concern may be tipping over into a bit of melodrama at this point. We don't know what her injury is yet or how serious it is. I really hope she will be ok and that she will get both the rest and treatment she needs and will (try to) wait patiently for more news.
According to the Eteri theory espoused by her skaters, you can skate through an injury and still heal.How is she training if she is still doing therapy ? Don't you need to heal first?
Sadly it didn’t work for some skaters. Shelepen, Pitkeev, Tsurskaya, Voronov, Kanysheva, not even Tursynbaeva who had to have a long time off...According to the Eteri theory espoused by her skaters, you can skate through an injury and still heal.
According to the Eteri theory espoused by her skaters, you can skate through an injury and still heal.
This is not new or unusual. Ballet dancers in particular are constantly doing therapy because of the enormous stress on their bodies.How is she training if she is still doing therapy ? Don't you need to heal first?
In theory, I can fly to the moon. Doesn't mean I should. Zhulin is his usual ridiculous self. Once a clown, always a clown. Let them both get healthy, and also get in better physical condition overall. No need to risk further injury.
Precisely.In theory, I can fly to the moon. Doesn't mean I should. Zhulin is his usual ridiculous self. Once a clown, always a clown. Let them both get healthy, and also get in better physical condition overall. No need to risk further injury.
Therapy is one thing. It helps counter the stress athletes put on their bodies. Performing while injured..... Whole other pile of stupid.This is not new or unusual. Ballet dancers in particular are constantly doing therapy because of the enormous stress on their bodies.
This was a competition for only "Balashikha Rink" skaters - "Balashikha Rink Contest". As i read from the IG comments, the judges were skaters' parents. Kanysheva's comment was "We did not accomplish all we have planned, but it is a start".Are the results listed somewhere? I am curious.
Khuda/Bazin skated there too.
Eteri NEVER practiced this. It's few other coaches and skaters who are not in her group, who have injuries. (given that for example a blister or a cut is not considered a debilitating injury).According to the Eteri theory espoused by her skaters, you can skate through an injury and still heal.
Thank you for reposting the Totmianina's info.^^^ I've re-posted in the Ice Age 2020 thread.
Trusova practicing quad loop: https://www.instagram.com/p/CGXopW7qmev/
Agreed. It could be that Vika would only need a minimal amount of time off the ice. The point is to take a little break (at the very least). I fully support an athlete's decision making at times like this, with what I hope is a supportive coach and physician that knows when to say 'no, go home, heal.' If Vika wants to carry on while addressing her situation, then I support her because she (with her team) knows her situation better than anyone. We'll see what happens.I'm really worried and definitely one of S/K's biggest fans on this board but it feels like the concern may be tipping over into a bit of melodrama at this point. We don't know what her injury is yet or how serious it is. I really hope she will be ok and that she will get both the rest and treatment she needs and will (try to) wait patiently for more news.