Bigbird
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When does the RD start at 4CC? Please and thank you
One thing I think needs to be looked at is the fact that one country can have all three skaters in the top ten but because they missed the magic 13 number (sometimes by mere fractions where the placements could have gone either way), they lose one spot and only get 2 while another fed's whole team can place like 3rd; 10th; and 15th and they still get to have three spots.
This is well thought out and seems to be realisticI feel that skaters should have to earn a place at worlds.
These would be my selection criteria
1. All countries guaranteed 1 entry subject to minimum TES scores
2. Top 10 at the preceding worlds subject to the 3 per country rule
3. Current season's GP medalists subject to the 3 per country rule
4. Current season's Euros and 4CCs top 5 subject to the 3 per country rule
If a country has more than the 3 per country rule, the decider should be either on ISU ranking or the country's Federation gets to decide who to send.
So in dance we'd have got
2. P/C, H/D, W/P, C/L, C/B, G/P, S/B, Z/G, H/B
3. H/D, S/B, H/K, G/F, H/B, Z/G, S/K, G/P, P/C
4. P/C, S/B, G/F, S/K, K/S & 4CC probably H/D, C/B, W/P, G/P, H/B
So that gives the following countries these extra skaters in addition to their 1 per country allocation.
2 USA - H/D, C/B,
2 Canada - W/P, G/P
2 Russia - S/B, S/K,
1 Italy - G/F
1 France - P/C
1 Spain - H/K
1 Poland - K/S
This would get round problems of countries losing quotas if a skater is injured/underperforms etc.
This is well thought out and seems to be realistic
I think the teams that meet criteria 3 would likely be the same people that meet criteria 2 and 4. Also many teams medal at both GP so it wouldn't be like you have 3 different teams from each GPI’m confused, wouldn’t criteria 3 have a lot more teams if we’re taking all GP medalists into account?
I think the teams that meet criteria 3 would likely be the same people that meet criteria 2 and 4. Also many teams medal at both GP so it wouldn't be like you have 3 different teams from each GP
But Hurtado/Khaliavin have not but they're still listed under criteria 3. Criteria 3 would have a lot of skaters.
I’m confused, wouldn’t criteria 3 have a lot more teams if we’re taking all GP medalists into account?
Hurtado/Khaliavin got a silver medal at the Russian GP,
http://www.isuresults.com/events/cat03108923.htm
I did list all of the GP medalists for the current season, there were only 9 teams who medalled as most medalled in both their GPs.
No, I mean H/K got a medal but didn't place top 5 at Euros or top 10 at Worlds 2018 which is what sharksk8 thought you did.
On yout GP medalists list, you listed:
H/D, S/B, H/K, G/F, H/B, Z/G, S/K, G/P, P/C
But are missing: McNamara/Carpenter; Carreira/Ponomarenko; and the Parsons.
Off topic but I like your new profile picture!Whoops!!!
Off topic but I like your new profile picture!
Whoops!!! I've updated the list now
It would just mean that there would be 4 teams fighting for the 1 guaranteed spot for the US after H/D and C/B have their guaranteed spots. However that would not be any different from now, as the Fed would still have to decide the 1 open spot
and every other federation is guaranteed at least 1 spot,
So under your scenario, there will be 17 spots given to 7 federations,
All federations are guaranteed 1 spot, spots earned by individual skaters meeting criteria 2 to 4 are extra spots.
All federations 1 open Spot (Federation chooses the skater)
Federations with 1 skater meeting 1+ of the criteria 2,3,4 = 1 open spot + 1 skater earned spot
Federations with 2+ skaters meeting 1+ of the criteria 2,3,4 = 1 open spot + 2skater earned spots
So the number of spots will vary depending on the number of skater earned spots!
I edited my post because I finally realized we're changing the WHOLE system to give skaters the spots not the federations (outside the one guaranteed spot).
Thanks, you could even remove the 3 per country rule, as in practice, there would be few cases of more than 2 meeting these criteria. Also, if a country has that many in the top echelons, they should all be allowed to compete in Worlds IMO
I think if Weaver and Poje skate their RD perfectly they will be very close to the score for P&C or might even beat it, I don't see anybody equaling their fd score but you never know.The tech panel might as well not have showed up to US nats.
their isn't an American on the tech panel , the specialist is Canadian the controller is polish and the assistant I Russian but trains the Australian couples expect good scores for them if they skate well.I'm already preparing for some wack RD scoring at 4CC with the way this competition is going. I didn't think I would say this but do we think someone will beat p/c WR with the judging going on? I at least hope they are tougher on levels than at US nats
their isn't an American on the tech panel , the specialist is Canadian the controller is polish and the assistant I Russian but trains the Australian couples expect good scores for them if they skate well.
Scoring makes sense so far...I'm already preparing for some wack RD scoring at 4CC with the way this competition is going. I didn't think I would say this but do we think someone will beat p/c WR with the judging going on? I at least hope they are tougher on levels than at US nats
Where r u located?Any links to the RD at 4CC? Please and thanks
Um, not everyone thinks so... (humdrum H/B over Danadians on Fire).Scoring makes sense so far...