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The spelling of Elliana's first name has since been corrected on the list.Junior Ice Dance
- Elianna Peal and Ethan Peal (bye)
The spelling of Elliana's first name has since been corrected on the list.Junior Ice Dance
- Elianna Peal and Ethan Peal (bye)
Thanks! Fixed it in my original post.The spelling of Elliana's first name has since been corrected on the list.
Glad that Audrey & Carter will be eligible next season.
I noticed that they aren't yet listed on the ISP, but the USFS hasn't added any skaters since Sectionals/Pairs/Dance Finals, so maybe they're waiting until after Nationals, which I suppose makes sense, especially if they're waiting on the releases from some feds (Desyatov in dance, Lewer in pairs). ...
Stapert is her last name (typo in Santa Claus Cup entries list).
Li/Le Coq's winning Novice FD at the recent U.S. Ice Dance Final to West Side Story, with her fun costume change , is worth checking out - starts at ~1:12:55 in the replay video: https://usfigureskatingfanzone.com/watch/?Archive=3083
They are coached by Igor Lukanin & Kristen Fraser-Lukanin in New Jersey.
Jordan Cowan also filmed them performing their WSS at Sky Rink at Chelsea Piers in NYC in September 2022: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fs3LWlaz0Es
Hmmmm... Good catch! I don't think they were on the ISP either prior to the Dance Final.Bringing Karen's post today from U.S. Pairs thread over here ... because the first time I noticed Koncius/Shchepetov on ISP list was right after Dance Final.
But it's possible that I had forgotten (or just plain missed) that they already were on it before Dance Final?
Wow, all those ice dancers are such overachievers and so busy!!! Great article!IDC wrap-up article from the Dance Final, with lots of quotes and tidbits from many skaters: https://www.ice-dance.com/site/stories-from-the-2023-ice-dance-final/
Well it isn’t really up to you…No, they’ve been around way too long. I don’t even know what could possibly be driving them at this point apart from fear of moving on. Skating skills have been stagnant for at least a decade, programs aren’t especially fresh or inspired, they haven’t improved for years, they don’t look hungry to be out there. Their last outing just screamed lack of heart, especially from Evan. Why are they even still in it?
Well it isn’t really up to you…
I don't think they can really come back from withdrawing from such a major competition. H/B are not a real threat for them unless they will make a major mistake, but I agree that it seems like they are fighting FB/S and F/G for bronze currently and not G/P and G/F for gold.For my sins I watched TSL last night while washing dishes - and after seeing G/Ps RD scores in Finland I have to say that I agree with them that C/B should WD from the GPF. If they want the world title then I think they need to find an excuse not to go because they risk not being on the GPF podium at this rate. If I were them I'd skip it and totally revamp/redo the programmes and hope that it leads to a better second half of the season.
I think the difference is that S/K made major errors there - the judges went with their programmes that season in every other event.I don't think they can really come back from withdrawing from such a major competition. H/B are not a real threat for them unless they will make a major mistake, but I agree that it seems like they are fighting FB/S and F/G for bronze currently and not G/P and G/F for gold.
That being said, In 2019/20 season Sinitsina/Katsalapov went from finishing 6th at GPF to beating P/C at Europeans two months later. If C/B can use the 4-5 weeks they have between GPF and US Championships to revamp they can come back strong in the second half of the season.
S/K's one mistake was their choreographic slide getting tinged for a supposed fall which cost them about 3.5 points, they were 4.5 points from bronze and over 7 points from silver.I think the difference is that S/K made major errors there - the judges went with their programmes that season in every other event.
Also, S/K were up against the likes of H/D, P/C and C/B with the snake dance..... losing to idk F/G? That would seem like a defeat they would struggle to come back from repuatation wise.
(Actually, given that there won't be a U.S. or CAN judge on the Worlds panel, I think G/F may have the best chance of winning Worlds.)
C/B were in the first group in 2019 and finished a close 3rd behind H/D. If they skate to their potential and don't miss levels, I would think they'd have the advantage over F-B/S. They did score higher in PCS at NHK.I also think the GPF scoring is a bit more concise compared to a GP field with 10 teams. Easier head to head comparison. However, it looks like C/B will be in the first group at the final with H/B and F/G (if the FD results at Finland hold). They are .04 behind FB/S in total points. In dance, sometimes it's hard to jump up to top three while skating in the first flight.
I don't. Laurence and Nic have excellent lifts/spins and their chemistry while on the ice is very engaging. Madison Chock is a phenomenal performer, has excellent lines, and hits positions that are drool-worthy. Chock has charisma but does Laurence. However, her mediocre skating skills have been disguised better in the past. Personally, I think the new changes to the RD and FD hurt this team. Chock can't rely on Evan's skating skills during patterns and steps anymore. Chock is not known for her skating skills and edge quality. Again, I like Madison but these are my opinions on her actual skating ability.C/B were in the first group in 2019 and finished a close 3rd behind H/D. If they skate to their potential and don't miss levels, I would think they'd have the advantage over F-B/S. They did score higher in PCS at NHK.
Withdrawing from the GPF will only confirm that they are behind the top competition, that they came into the GP ill-prepared, and that they made mistakes with their routines, and doing so may garner them some bad will because some will see the act as cowardly…and they will be seen that way no matter how they’ll revamp their programs. If they compete and place a respectable 3rd or even 4th, then they’re still in it for the long game (Worlds in March) and can turn the narrative around. The judges will be familiar with their material thanks to competing it ant the GPF, and will notice any positive changes from the GPF on and be more ready to accept them as part of the GP to Worlds growing/evolution process….they won’t be “forgotten” and left out of the convo like they would if they withdraw.
Withdrawing with changes to the program will make it seem like they’re making their GP debut again and they’ll fall more behind after the judges more-or-less solidify which programs they like the best and don’t want to make room to consider a program they’re less familiar with.
In other words, it’s important to compete and keep yourself part of the conversation and continue to be seen as viable and valid competitors. Withdrawing now will make them go back to zero.
As bad as we all think their material is this year, I don’t think the judges feel that way or would care at all if Chock/Bates could skate it clean and get their levels and sell it.
I agree.I don’t even think their material is bad. They just haven’t been skating well enough to sell it. IMO they’d be much better off focusing on better delivery of the programs they already have, rather than trying to majorly rework anything at this point in the season.