This Is Us, Season 6: The Final Chapter

Oh man, tonight's episode was full of the normal Pearson family Thanksgiving shenanigans (Beth is awesome in any timeline, LOL) but that last talk with Bec, Miguel, and the kids about her health care and all the things that are going to happen surrounding her illness absolutely broke me. :fragile:
 
that last talk with Bec, Miguel, and the kids about her health care and all the things that are going to happen surrounding her illness absolutely broke me. :fragile:
Me too. Hits close to home with my elderly mother having health issues as of late.
Mandy Moore needs to win the Emmy and a Team Event gold medal.
I feel like in the beginning of the series everyone thought this show was all about Jack and how Jack was the hero. Turns out it really was more about Rebecca and how she was the unsung hero.

11 more episodes with the Pearsons! Gonna try to treasure every moment.
 
The last 2 episodes have been epic! I was glad that Rebecca chose Kate. It just felt right. Btw, Kevin was annoying. I hope he grows up before the series ends. It's funny how this show started out looking like the family was just this perfect family yet all the kids have/had serious issues. Imo only Randall has worked thru his.
 
Couple of thoughts -

(Beth is awesome in any timeline,
How long has she been in the family, any family? There would be plenty of drama in hers. She should have just stayed home instead of being snarky. But then every member of that generation should be in a show called This Is Me, Me, Me, all about Me, not Us.

I was glad that Rebecca chose Kate. It just felt right.
I don't know. Kate is more likely to die from a weight problem (which was one of the themes of the show) before Rebecca does from Alzheimer's. And she's got enough of her own issues to deal with without having to make any rational, unselfish, decisions about someone else.
 
Couple of thoughts -


How long has she been in the family, any family? There would be plenty of drama in hers. She should have just stayed home instead of being snarky. But then every member of that generation should be in a show called This Is Me, Me, Me, all about Me, not Us.


I don't know. Kate is more likely to die from a weight problem (which was one of the themes of the show) before Rebecca does from Alzheimer's. And she's got enough of her own issues to deal with without having to make any rational, unselfish, decisions about someone else.
Seriously? Whoa about the weight.
 
The last 2 episodes have been epic! I was glad that Rebecca chose Kate. It just felt right. Btw, Kevin was annoying. I hope he grows up before the series ends. It's funny how this show started out looking like the family was just this perfect family yet all the kids have/had serious issues. Imo only Randall has worked thru his.
Kevin is almost always annoying, especially when he is not getting his own way. I’m not surprised at all the issues the kids have or had. Families look one way from the outside and then you see every one of them has healthy and unhealthy interactions, and the kids react to what the parents do, sometimes inadvertently doing what their parents did. Even if they don’t end up copying their parents, the parents behavior still affects the kids’ behavior.
 
The thanksgiving dinner where Kate defiantly started stuffing her face is when Rebecca should have finally gotten her some therapy. Actually she should have had a clue earlier but of course she had her own grief to work through. But Kate wasn't any better 2 yrs after Jack's death, she was getting worse & losing her closest friend just really capped it off. And I don't think it's fat-shaming to mention her weight, it's huge part of her story. (no pun intended) I think Toby's discussion about healthy eating was right on point.
 
Mandy Moore was a guest on the LA Times’ The Envelope podcast - Warning: This story contains major spoilers from the “Taboo” episode of “This is Us.” - transcript can be read here:
 
The thanksgiving dinner where Kate defiantly started stuffing her face is when Rebecca should have finally gotten her some therapy. Actually she should have had a clue earlier but of course she had her own grief to work through. But Kate wasn't any better 2 yrs after Jack's death, she was getting worse & losing her closest friend just really capped it off. And I don't think it's fat-shaming to mention her weight, it's huge part of her story. (no pun intended) I think Toby's discussion about healthy eating was right on point.
We wouldn’t have a tv show though lol.
 
I don't know if Rebecca even noticed how Kate ate the pie, she was too busy eyeing poor Marguerite. Sometimes when you see the person on a regular basis, you don't notice physical changes as they are incremental. It would be people like Randall and Kevin who would notice it more immediately (although I thought Randall visited Rebecca on a fairly regular basis while at college).

It is interesting how there was more focus by Randall (and the whole family, except maybe Miguel) over Kate's weight instead of Kevin's drinking.
 
Milo Ventimiglia directed last week's first "Big Three trilogy" episode on Kevin and Mandy Moore has her directorial debut in tonight's Kate-centered episode:

 
I was annoyed with both Toby and Kate in this week’s episode. No real communication, for the most part, and just self-centeredness. And then Kate did the exact same thing that she was so justifiably mad at Toby for doing…. The episode was well done, though, with those flash backs to young Kate being pretty illuminating.
 
I was annoyed with both Toby and Kate in this week’s episode. No real communication, for the most part, and just self-centeredness. And then Kate did the exact same thing that she was so justifiably mad at Toby for doing…. The episode was well done, though, with those flash backs to young Kate being pretty illuminating.
I don’t see it that way. Both of them have changed and know what they need/want. A lot of differences now. It was a really well done episode.
 
I was annoyed with both Toby and Kate in this week’s episode. No real communication, for the most part, and just self-centeredness. And then Kate did the exact same thing that she was so justifiably mad at Toby for doing…. The episode was well done, though, with those flash backs to young Kate being pretty illuminating.

Like @skate8pics, I don't see it that way.

But I'm not so charitable as @skate8pics. I don't think it is just that both of them have changed - as people do.

I think that Toby is being very self-centered in expecting Kate to uproot her life and move with the kids to SF. He is acting as if his life is more important than her life, his career more important than her career. Yeah, it's great he wants to support Jack financially to fulfill his potential in future. But he doesn't seem that interested in actually raising Jack.

We saw a hint of this some time ago, when Toby told Kate: I love my children, BUT. . .

Seems he wants to leave his old self and old life behind. But it is clear that is his old self that Kate loves.

I don't care for the new Toby myself.

I'm also not sure that Kate is interested in the swanky, pretentious (IMO) lifestyle they would lead in SF. She seemed uncomfortable at the cocktal party. But that may just be projection on my part, I'd never want to have such a lifestyle.
 
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I actually have two friends that are married that did this. She’s actually my sister-in-law’s best friend and have known each other since high schooL but I knew them too from a younger age too. So as Canadians they have lived in La (Riverside) forever .. she took a job at San Fran Hospital as a director and he had a big job in Riverside too. They made it work but it was tough on them being apart. We stayed with him at their place in Riverside and then went to San Fran. San Fran is def fascinating. He joined us on the weekend. When I say it was tough on them - they just were so sad being apart. Their kids were older (teenagers). throw an autistic son in there too. Now he’s retired and both living in San Fran. It depends on individual relationships and different stages of life too. San Fran was a lot of fun .. wish I had spent more time there.
 
I guess it's been a long while since I watched the earlier seasons (and TBH, I probably skip the Toby/Kate storylines), but I forgot how different Toby looked back then.

I don't want to say that present-day Toby is worse/better than he was the earlier years, but I do find him more interesting as a character now. I don't necessarily need Toby and Kate to stay together (well, they aren't) but I do want Toby to be happy and satisfied with his life.

Baby Jack is friggin' adorable.
 
I guess it's been a long while since I watched the earlier seasons (and TBH, I probably skip the Toby/Kate storylines), but I forgot how different Toby looked back then.

I don't want to say that present-day Toby is worse/better than he was the earlier years, but I do find him more interesting as a character now. I don't necessarily need Toby and Kate to stay together (well, they aren't) but I do want Toby to be happy and satisfied with his life.

Baby Jack is friggin' adorable.
The scenes showing them together I‘m pretty sure he is padded up because it looks a bit fake vs the original Toby. Well he would have to be of course.

The kids are adorable
 
Like @skate8pics, I don't see it that way.

But I'm not so charitable as @skate8pics. I don't think it is just that both of them have changed - as people do.

I think that Toby is being very self-centered in expecting Kate to uproot her life and move with the kids to SF. He is acting as if his life is more important than her life, his career more important than her career. Yeah, it's great he wants to support Jack financially to fulfill his potential in future. But he doesn't seem that interested in actually raising Jack.

We saw a hint of this some time ago, when Toby told Kate: I love my children, BUT. . .

Seems he wants to leave his old self and old life behind. But it is clear that is his old self that Kate loves.

I don't care for the new Toby myself.

I'm also not sure that Kate is interested in the swanky, pretentious (IMO) lifestyle they would lead in SF. She seemed uncomfortable at the cocktal party. But that may just be projection on my part, I'd never want to have such a lifestyle.
The cocktail party scene did not show those people as swanky or pretentious. Everyone was welcoming to Kate. At times she appeared judgmental to me. Toby told her not to ask people about their jobs but she did & then seemed dismissive of them. And she shouldn't have started a fight there in front of his boss & coworkers.

This episode raised a couple of issues for me like if she's all that happy why does food still have such power over her? It's clear that stress eating has been her downfall in the past. She actually met Toby at Overeaters Anonymous but he did the work & she hasn't. He has said his motivation was to be around for his kids. Obviously that's not a big enough reason for her. I'm sure I will be accused of fat-shaming but that's not really the issue. For me the issue is that Kate is so self-absorbed that she will not yield on anything. She never hears the importance of what Toby says to her. I thought when he described how his mental health has improved & why he wants to stay in SF it went in one ear & out the other. She had some good reasons too but not as compelling as his. She just sounded (to me) as someone who lives in her own little safe cocoon & is afraid to try anything else.
 
This episode raised a couple of issues for me like if she's all that happy why does food still have such power over her? It's clear that stress eating has been her downfall in the past. She actually met Toby at Overeaters Anonymous but he did the work & she hasn't. He has said his motivation was to be around for his kids. Obviously that's not a big enough reason for her.

You seem to hate Kate.

Losing weight isn't easy. Kate has been at home with her kids, while Toby works. I'm sure it was easier for him to find time in the day to work out than it was for her. She is raising a blind child to a large extent on her own. While being married to a man who loves his children "but". Plus, we learned early on the show that she loses weight very slowly.

Wanting to stay in LA does not mean that she wants to stay in a safe cocoon. Her job and family are there, excepting Randall, and give her stability and a sense of purpose.
I'm sure I will be accused of fat-shaming but that's not really the issue. For me the issue is that Kate is so self-absorbed that she will not yield on anything. She never hears the importance of what Toby says to her. I thought when he described how his mental health has improved & why he wants to stay in SF it went in one ear & out the other. She had some good reasons too but not as compelling as his. She just sounded (to me) as someone who lives in her own little safe cocoon & is afraid to try anything else.
She did hear what he said IMO. But she doesn't want to move to SF to be with him, leaving her job and support system behind. I'd do the same in similar circumstances.

And it bites that he didn't tell her about the job offer in LA, or even consider it, regardless of it being less pay. That would do it for me - end of marriage.
 
You seem to hate Kate.

Losing weight isn't easy. Kate has been at home with her kids, while Toby works. I'm sure it was easier for him to find time in the day to work out than it was for her. She is raising a blind child to a large extent on her own. While being married to a man who loves his children "but". Plus, we learned early on the show that she loses weight very slowly.

Wanting to stay in LA does not mean that she wants to stay in a safe cocoon. Her job and family are there, excepting Randall, and give her stability and a sense of purpose.

She did hear what he said IMO. But she doesn't want to move to SF to be with him, leaving her job and support system behind. I'd do the same in similar circumstances.

And it bites that he didn't tell her about the job offer in LA, or even consider it, regardless of it being less pay. That would do it for me - end of marriage.
I don't "hate" Kate. She's a TV character after all. I know losing weight is not easy. But saying Kate loses weight very slowly when she hasn't lost any all, actually appears to have gained since the 1st episode, isn't much of an argument. And there were about 5 or 6 years when she didn't have any children.

As for hearing what he says: at Thanksgiving when Toby didn't want Kate to give Jack a lot of sugar she was totally dismissive about that. You could tell she didn't agree. Once again what he said went in one ear & out the other.

Maybe I'm biased because I moved around a lot as a kid but I know you can be happy anywhere if you're with the right person(s). I know if at any time during the last 36 years my DH told me his mental health depended on moving back to Canada (a place I've only visited) I would have done it. Kate's reasoning isn't as compelling - her reasons are she's comfortable where she is & her family is there. That would have been my reasons too. That is important but for all the years she been married she gotten her way about where they live. It's clear that she's opposed to trying anything new.
 
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I don't "hate" Kate. She's a TV character after all. I know losing weight is not easy. But saying Kate loses weight very slowly when she hasn't lost any all, actually appears to have gained since the 1st episode, isn't much of an argument. And there were about 5 or 6 years when she didn't have any children.

As for hearing what he says: at Thanksgiving when Toby didn't want Kate to give Jack a lot of sugar she was totally dismissive about that. You could tell she didn't agree. Once again what he said went in one ear & out the other.

Maybe I'm biased because I moved around a lot as a kid but I know you can be happy anywhere if you're with the right person(s). I know if at any time during the last 36 years my DH told me his mental health depended on moving back to Canada (a place I've only visited) I would have done it. Kate's reasoning isn't as compelling - her reasons are she's comfortable where she is & her family is there. That would have been my reasons too. That is important but for all the years she been married she gotten her way about where they live. It's clear that she's opposed to trying anything new.
They just want and need different things. It definitely happens.

I really like both their characters. I hope the bbq incident thing happens soon though .. but likely won’t.
 
I don't "hate" Kate. She's a TV character after all. I know losing weight is not easy. But saying Kate loses weight very slowly when she hasn't lost any all, actually appears to have gained since the 1st episode, isn't much of an argument. And there were about 5 or 6 years when she didn't have any children.
I don't hate a t.v. character either (I don't like any of the Big Three), but, really isn't this "Kate's" whole story. She started getting fat as a kid and was unhappy, thinking she would never have a happy life or a husband. So she ate a box of Twinkies (whatever) and hates being fat. Then she meets a fat man who loves her and still isn't happy, so she eats another box of Twinkies and hates being fat. Toby matures and gets healthy and she still isn't happy and eats another box of Twinkies and hates being fat. So is it her dad's fault for dying, her mother being critical, Toby for evolving? She'll stay in LA, have a job she wants and eat another box of Twinkies because she is unhappy and hates being fat and on and on and on. She would not be happy even if she lost 100 lbs.
 
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I don't hate a t.v. character either (I don't like any of the Big Three), but, really isn't this "Kate's" whole story. She started getting fat as a kid and was unhappy, thinking she would never have a happy life or a husband. So she ate a box of Twinkies (whatever) and hates being fat. Then she meets a fat man who loves her and still isn't happy, so she eats another box of Twinkies and hates being fat. Toby matures and gets healthy and she still isn't happy and eats another box of Twinkies and hates being fat. So is it her dad's fault for dying, her mother being critical, Toby for evolving? She'll stay in LA, have a job she wants and eat another box of Twinkies because she is unhappy and hates being fat and on and on and on. She would not be happy even if she lost 100 lbs.

p.s. the actress has lost some weight, but they've had pad her now so we all know that Kate is still always unhappy and still eating a box of Twinkies and still hates being fat.
Pretty judgemental.
 

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