Royalty Thread #16: the best of times, the worst of times

[Barbara Manatee]

Prince Andrew has announced he will give up using his Duke of York title and other honours. The real question is is this actually his choice or was he ordered to do it?

Ordered or paid off - Andrew would never give up anything just because it is the right thing to do.

 

[MsZem]

Prince Andrew has announced he will give up using his Duke of York title and other honours. The real question is is this actually his choice or was he ordered to do it?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/prince-andrew-buckingham-palace-9.6942851

Ordered to for sure.

There's supposed to be a separate thread for him because what he stands accused of is really beyond the scope of this thread (and potentially trigerring for people).

 

[Karen-W]

Prince Andrew has announced he will give up using his Duke of York title and other honours. The real question is is this actually his choice or was he ordered to do it?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/prince-andrew-buckingham-palace-9.6942851

I'd bet that this is a brokered agreement between Charles, Andrew & William.

Rumors have been flying that William wanted Andrew basically exiled - if not out of the country then surely forced out of Royal Lodge and no private social life - like the shooting parties he is still allowed to host at Sandringham & Windsor. And that he very much wants Andrew stripped of his Royal titles.

Andrew, of course, wouldn't want to give anything up.

And Charles is in the middle, not wanting to request Parliament formally strip Andrew of his York dukedom, not really wanting to ezile his brother completely - and, honestly, it's probably wiser for Charles to pony up the cash to pay for Royal Lodge's upkeep and keep Andrew under close supervision than it is to send him off to God knows where so that Andrew can get up to no good by associating with more filthy rich scumbags.

So, Andrew agrees to stop using his titles, is still Prince Andrew as the child of a monarch, and can still have a private social life of an aristocrat.

 

[kwanfan1818]

I'm currently slogging through reading Andrew Lownie's book "Traitor King" about Edward VIII, and, at least so far, la plus ca change about the trade-offs between ousting and keeping your family enemies closer.

 

[Vagabond]

There's supposed to be a separate thread for him because what he stands accused of is really beyond the scope of this thread (and potentially trigerring for people).

Yes, it's here:

Thread 'Prince Andrew'

Nov 28, 2019

This is a thread to keep discussion of a certain royal ne'er-do-well separate from the toddlers and tiaras normally found in the other thread.

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• Forum: Off The Beaten Track

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And for the very reasons you state, people should show some consideration and post in that thread rather than this one.

 

[mattiecat13]

I'm currently slogging through reading Andrew Lownie's book "Traitor King" about Edward VIII, and, at least so far, la plus ca change about the trade-offs between ousting and keeping your family enemies closer.

Read that book as well and, agree, it was a slog.