Royalty Thread #16: the best of times, the worst of times

[marbri]

@Kruss & @canbelto, I said the stories started in the UK. I do know there have been recent stories, both good & bad coming from the US. So is she a Ellen DeGenerus or Miranda Prisley? Or is she a driven person who wants things done right the 1st time? I don't think she's Jekell & Hyde but what do I know?

You might want to read your original post then because you said "not from now" and "They are about 4yrs or so old". They moved to the US in 2020, four years ago. And it will be four years next month that Archewell was founded. So you can maybe see why you got the responses you did?

 

[taf2002]

You might want to read your original post then because you said "not from now" and "They are about 4yrs or so old". They moved to the US in 2020, four years ago. And it will be four years next month that Archewell was founded. So you can maybe see why you got the responses you did?

I said they didn't start right now = "The stories about Meghan being a horrible boss are not right now. They are about 4yrs or so old."

I meant they have been going on for at least 4yrs & they started in the UK. And they have continued until this day. I don't know what kind of person she is. I just know that she has been bullied by the press for a long time now. She must have some kind of character to be able to still live her life. I don't know if I could take that constant harassment.

 

[canbelto]

I feel like two things can be true? Some of the criticism of her was really unfair, but the stories of her being a nightmare boss are probably with some merit considering they've followed her to a place where there wouldn't be that prejudice against a biracial woman from California.

 

[MacMadame]

Or is she a driven person who wants things done right the 1st time?

People like that rarely make good bosses.

 

[taf2002]

People like that rarely make good bosses.

I agree.

 

[MsZem]

Princess Beatrice is expecting her second baby:

https://people.com/princess-beatrice-pregnant-expecting-second-child-edoardo-mapelli-mozzi-7502181

 

[Private Citizen]

Boris Johnson claims in memoir Queen Elizabeth II had bone cancer | CNN

Former British Prime Minister Boris Johnson has controversially broken royal protocol and claimed in his upcoming memoir that Queen Elizabeth II was suffering from bone cancer before her death.

amp.cnn.com

Boris Johnson’s forthcoming book claims Queen Elizabeth II was suffering from bone cancer for at least a year before her death and that she and her aides realized that summer 2022 was approaching the end. The rumours have been out there for awhile, but to the extent Johnson is a reliable source, this would seem to confirm them.

The breach in protocol here doesn’t thrill me, especially given that he’s using the late Queen’s health information to sell a book

 

[canbelto]

The bone cancer news is pretty old.

 

[puglover]

Meghan recently attended a Gala with a close female friend sans Prince Harry. Both women looked lovely, smiled a lot and even held hands - I think on the red carpet. Certain media just could not resist the urge to read "marital discord - divorce" into the scenario of two young women enjoying an evening together. It seems healthier to me when couples have friends, interests, activities outside of the relationship.

 

[canbelto]

Meghan recently attended a Gala with a close female friend sans Prince Harry. Both women looked lovely, smiled a lot and even held hands - I think on the red carpet. Certain media just could not resist the urge to read "marital discord - divorce" into the scenario of two young women enjoying an evening together. It seems healthier to me when couples have friends, interests, activities outside of the relationship.

Harry has also done some stuff solo recently. I think that's good. Early in their marriage, they were rarely seen apart. That kind of constant togetherness can be suffocating. Couples need to develop their own hobbies, interests and friendships.

 

[Jenny]

Plus given their choices in the past, I'm assuming that one of them likes to stay home with the kids when the other has a big event to attend.

 

[Vagabond]

Her Grace the Duchess is forty-three. Calling her "young" feels wrong to me.

:Geritol:

 

[fan]

Her Grace the Duchess is forty-three. Calling her "young" feels wrong to me.

:Geritol:

hey! this 42 year old believes that 43 IS young!

 

[puglover]

Her Grace the Duchess is forty-three. Calling her "young" feels wrong to me.

:Geritol:

I guess it is all relative. My oldest son turns 50 on his next birthday. Yikes!! Women are having babies later in life now whereas I have friends who were grandmothers at 43.

 

[canbelto]

Whatever age-group Meghan is classified as, it's good if she has her own friend group and activities. In fact, I feel like had she had her own friends, activities, family/support group with her in England, it wouldn't have gone so wrong. Having those people is important for mental health. This was an issue with Diana too -- she had such fractious relationships with her own family, that she didn't have that support group while she was struggling.

 

[canbelto]

So I was on some social media sites and apparently there's chatter that William and Kate had some extremely frosty body language at the Qatar head of state visit?

 

[Kruss]

I didn't see anything of the kind.

 

[MLIS]

Not at all. In fact, in the appearances they have made together since Kate started to return to work, I have thought they looked closer than ever. Certainly more physically demonstrative, one often putting a hand on the other’s back or arm and lots of looks over the shoulder to check in if they are not standing/walking together. They are both usually quite reserved and solemn at these things, lots of standing at attention while anthems are played and ceremonial whatevers are carried out. There are definitely places out there online that would delight in seeing their marriage fail, and cheerfully make up stories or find evidence to prove their theories, but William and Kate definitely are putting on a united front, in public at least.

On a side note, the inquest has started into the death of Lady Gabriella Kingston’s husband, who died by suicide during the height of the frenzy over Kate’s “disappearance” and became part of the more unsavoury speculation and rumours (including that he had been having an affair with Kate and William had killed him). They apparently now think that his suicide is linked to new medication he had started taking a few weeks before. Such a tragedy.

 

[MsZem]

Today is Princess Sofia's 40th birthday, and she's on the cover of Vogue Scandinavia to mark the occasion:

Royal cover star! Princess and her family pose for Vogue Scandinavia

See photos from the shoot, including one with her kids!

www.hola.com

The cover is beautiful, though obviously taken a while ago as she's very pregnant right now. Also, Prince Alexander looks exactly like his father.

Meanwhile, in Denmark:

Queen Mary's daughter Princess Josephine, 13, makes acting debut

The Danish teenager is following in her grandmother's footsteps

www.hellomagazine.com

 

[canbelto]

Camilla has been doing a big initiative with domestic violence. This includes having celebs talk about DV.
Here's Patrick Stewart:

The Royal Family on Instagram: "Today marks the final day of @UNwomen’s 16 Days of Activism: a time to encourage conversations around domestic and gender-based violence. In this clip from ‘Her Majesty The Queen: Behind Closed Doors’ actor Sir Patri

59K likes, 562 comments - theroyalfamily on December 10, 2024: "Today marks the final day of @UNwomen’s 16 Days of Activism: a time to encourage conversations around domestic and gender-based violence. In this clip from ‘Her Majesty The Queen: Behind Closed Doors’ actor Sir Patrick Stewart...

www.instagram.com

I always admired her devotion to this cause, because I think elderly British women of a certain class would probably think a woman should grin and bear it. I'm not sure how supportive Queen E or Queen Mum would have been to any DV charities.

 

[Vagabond]

I always admired her devotion to this cause, because I think elderly British women of a certain class would probably think a woman should grin and bear it. I'm not sure how supportive Queen E or Queen Mum would have been to any DV charities.

You sound prejudiced. I would expect that elderly British women of a certain class have and had a wide array experiences and views on the subject, just as other people do.

 

[canbelto]

You sound prejudiced. I would expect that elderly British women of a certain class have and had a wide array experiences and views on the subject, just as other people do.

Not prejudiced, just realistic. Conservative upper class women of that era often considered DV to be a "private matter" and not something to be discussed.

 

[Karen-W]

Camilla has been doing a big initiative with domestic violence. This includes having celebs talk about DV.
Here's Patrick Stewart:

The Royal Family on Instagram: "Today marks the final day of @UNwomen’s 16 Days of Activism: a time to encourage conversations around domestic and gender-based violence. In this clip from ‘Her Majesty The Queen: Behind Closed Doors’ actor Sir Patri

59K likes, 562 comments - theroyalfamily on December 10, 2024: "Today marks the final day of @UNwomen’s 16 Days of Activism: a time to encourage conversations around domestic and gender-based violence. In this clip from ‘Her Majesty The Queen: Behind Closed Doors’ actor Sir Patrick Stewart...

www.instagram.com

I always admired her devotion to this cause, because I think elderly British women of a certain class would probably think a woman should grin and bear it. I'm not sure how supportive Queen E or Queen Mum would have been to any DV charities.

She's part of the Baby Boomer generation, not her deceased mother-in-law's generation or her deceased grandmother-in-law's generation. I don't know that I think Baby Boomer British women of Camilla's socio-economic class are any more pre-disposed to just "grin and bear it" than anyone of a different socio-economic class.

 

[canbelto]

She's part of the Baby Boomer generation, not her deceased mother-in-law's generation or her deceased grandmother-in-law's generation. I don't know that I think Baby Boomer British women of Camilla's socio-economic class are any more pre-disposed to just "grin and bear it" than anyone of a different socio-economic class.

Just saying it's the sort of sensitive topic many royals of the past would have shied away from. It's a good thing she's so passionate about this and consistent about it too.

 

[MacMadame]

She's barely a baby boomer though. Like by 1 year. Not that I think it has anything to do with anything.

 

[puglover]

Not at all. In fact, in the appearances they have made together since Kate started to return to work, I have thought they looked closer than ever. Certainly more physically demonstrative, one often putting a hand on the other’s back or arm and lots of looks over the shoulder to check in if they are not standing/walking together. They are both usually quite reserved and solemn at these things, lots of standing at attention while anthems are played and ceremonial whatevers are carried out. There are definitely places out there online that would delight in seeing their marriage fail, and cheerfully make up stories or find evidence to prove their theories, but William and Kate definitely are putting on a united front, in public at least.

On a side note, the inquest has started into the death of Lady Gabriella Kingston’s husband, who died by suicide during the height of the frenzy over Kate’s “disappearance” and became part of the more unsavoury speculation and rumours (including that he had been having an affair with Kate and William had killed him). They apparently now think that his suicide is linked to new medication he had started taking a few weeks before. Such a tragedy.

According to the information I read, the medications that Tom had recently been prescribed were both SSRIs. I believe the first was Zoloft and after only a few days he complained about the side effects so it was changed to Celexa. He was also taking Zopiclone for sleep. It is truly a catch 22 for people suffering from depression, anxiety and insomnia. I, of course, do not know what his symptoms were but I do have experience with doctors prescribing medications to alter brain chemistry and it completely changing the person. On the other hand, these same medications can give people their lives back.

Lady Gabriella attended the carol singing with Carole Middleton. One of the particularly nasty rumours I read was that Prince William had Tom killed as revenge for Tom poorly investing Middleton money which led to them closing their Party Favours businss. This kind of crap is totally reprehensible.

 

[taf2002]

Camilla has been doing a big initiative with domestic violence. This includes having celebs talk about DV.
Here's Patrick Stewart:

The Royal Family on Instagram: "Today marks the final day of @UNwomen’s 16 Days of Activism: a time to encourage conversations around domestic and gender-based violence. In this clip from ‘Her Majesty The Queen: Behind Closed Doors’ actor Sir Patri

59K likes, 562 comments - theroyalfamily on December 10, 2024: "Today marks the final day of @UNwomen’s 16 Days of Activism: a time to encourage conversations around domestic and gender-based violence. In this clip from ‘Her Majesty The Queen: Behind Closed Doors’ actor Sir Patrick Stewart...

www.instagram.com

I always admired her devotion to this cause, because I think elderly British women of a certain class would probably think a woman should grin and bear it. I'm not sure how supportive Queen E or Queen Mum would have been to any DV charities.

You clearly admire Camilla. That's one in a row that we know of.

 

[canbelto]

You clearly admire Camilla. That's one in a row that we know of.

Actually sjes done DV initiatives for years but go off i guess.

 

[MsZem]

The bling is here! I give this one to the tiara-less Professor Staller:

The Swedish Royal Family Wore Stunning Tiaras to the 2024 Nobel Prize Ceremony

Queen Silvia, Crown Princess Victoria, Princess Madeleine, and Princess Sofia chose their best jewels for the evening.

www.townandcountrymag.com

And Sofia looked superb at the royal dinner honoring the Nobel laureates:

Princess Sofia glows in borrowed bump-skimming sequin gown and rarely-seen tiara

Prince Carl Philip's wife attended a royal dinner at the palace

www.hellomagazine.com

 

[kwanfan1818]

over Crown Princess Victoria's dress.