From Russia With Love [#40]: Summer 2021 & into the Olympic season

[livetoskate]

ick. I've been in close proximity to him and didn't feel the love (thankfully). He does have a thing where he stares intently at pretty much every woman in a rink and makes eye contact which is weird but for a lot of people that sort of thing works (pick up artists are trained to use this technique too)

Yup. He did that to my pretty friend when we were there for an adult skating camp. That was also where we saw him giving Miki Ando a neck-shoulder massage in the lobby & she looked sort of embarrassed.

 

[Bigbird]

Yup. He did that to my pretty friend when we were there for an adult skating camp. That was also where we saw him giving Miki Ando a neck-shoulder massage in the lobby & she looked sort of embarrassed.

Please oh please, we neeeeed to stop talking about NM beginning to feel dirty.

 

[Areski]

Once again if something is banned it’s banned and that kind of meds in a young girl is danger.

But I do see the difference between taking something that helps with muscle relief and taking something to make you jump higher.

However it is banned so it’s wrong to take it

Did Valiyeva even take it willingly though? She's still only 15. But it rather does not make a practical difference here. I feel for her if it was not her conscious decision.

 

[becca]

Did Valiyeva even take it willingly though? It rather does not make a difference here.

Oh in no way do I blame that young girl for anything.

 

[barbarafan]

If I was a honest coach and my skater was in this terrible situation, I would want to go on the offensive, make a statement, and get ahead of the situation. Unfortunately, I think this coach is more concerned with her looks and her personal success than the welfare of her teenage skaters.

Does that mean Eteri has to turn her back on her 15yr old student when she approaches her. We know what her answer will be when she is asked if she was aware her student was doping.

 

[Areski]

Insects do it. I don’t know know how much insect DNA he may have.

Me, you and Morozov all share 60% of DNA with fruit flies which are insects.

 

[soogar]

-delete-

 

[AxelAnnie]

Guaranteed there will now be testing done on the rest of the Russian athletes, especially Eteri's students. If Kamila tested positive, I wouldn't be surprised if the team doctor tried to provide the substance to Anna, Sasha, Morisi, etc. I sincerely hope they are 100% negative, though.

Heartbroken for Kamila. Even though she's the one who tested positive, IMO she's a victim in this, as she's just a teenager who was
following the guidance of the trusted adults in her life.

 

[Vash01]

IIRC he was not a string jumper. May be that pretty much decided that they would never make the world team.

Can't edit it now. I meant Strong jumper.

 

[Areski]

I've had migraines since I hit puberty, so a 15 year old could perfectly well need migraine medication.
Though Tiff has had a few migraines she would never take the migraine medication for fear of the doping consequences.
Most athletes are scared to take anything for fear it will get them banned.

I've had migraines since I was ... 8 years old. Fortunately it has never been really bad (I knew a girl who was taken to hospital because of it which shocked me) and I have migraines infrequently so i only take drugs when I have to for it.

 

[Cachoo]

I’m trying to understand the process: Tests go to the lab for processing in Sweden. Oops wrong thread!

 

[Rina RUS]

It is Tatiana Tarasova’s birthday today She is 75
Totmyanina says they are going to have a show dedicated to Tarasova’s anniversary on March 11 and March 12 (by Averbukh)
https://www.instagram.com/p/CZ6J8nao_fT/

A video with Tatiana Tarasova and her birthday cake

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[DreamSkates]

We're reminded of a USA Today survey published over 30 years ago which included the question, that if you could take a magic pill to win Olympic Gold, but would die 10 years after the fact, would you still risk it?

We were amazed by the number of people quizzed who said they would.

People often say what sounds good to them at the moment (Olympic gold) but might choose differently when faced with the actual consequence of - death.
Fantasy vs reality. Not a question that can be asked and a statistic touted as a result.

 

[becca]

People often say what sounds good to them at the moment (Olympic gold) but might choose differently when faced with the actual consequence of - death.
Fantasy vs reality. Not a question that can be asked and a statistic touted as a result.

And children are also not old enough to make this choice

 

[concorde]

And children are also not old enough to make this choice

Or understand the consequences of those decisions that in many cases were made for them.

I remember watching a documentary about the East German woman swimmers. Most had no idea what the "vitamins" really contained. Only years later did they fully understand the ramifications were that many got cancer or were unable to have children. They wound up paying a horrific price for what was decided for them.

 

[taz'smum]

Or understand the consequences of those decisions that in many cases were made for them.

I remember watching a documentary about the East German woman swimmers. Most had no idea what the "vitamins" really contained. Only years later did they fully understand the ramifications were that many got cancer or were unable to have children. They wound up paying a horrific price for what was decided for them.

For Andreas Krieger (formerly Heidi Krieger) the consequences were life changing
East German sports doping victim speaks out after sex change/

Doping Made Me A Man - Incredible Story of Andreas Krieger | Trans World Sport

Trans World Sport feature on Andreas Krieger, a former East German shot putter. Having been forced to take massive doses of steroids that gave him masculine ...

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[Amantide]

For Andreas Krieger (formerly Heidi Krieger) the consequences were life changing
East German sports doping victim speaks out after sex change/

Doping Made Me A Man - Incredible Story of Andreas Krieger | Trans World Sport

Trans World Sport feature on Andreas Krieger, a former East German shot putter. Having been forced to take massive doses of steroids that gave him masculine ...

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Is Tiff competing at Worlds?

 

[tony]

Kondratiuk is still in Beijing practicing and he has an IG video up of him trying a quintuple Salchow. It's still over a half-rotation short (and really closer to only 4.25 rotations), but wow. I think he's just messing around and AFAIK wasn't seriously learning anything like that before.

 

[aka_gerbil]

Kondratiuk is still in Beijing practicing and he has an IG video up of him trying a quintuple Salchow. It's still over a half-rotation short (and really closer to only 4.25 rotations), but wow. I think he's just messing around and AFAIK wasn't seriously learning anything like that before.

Maybe Grassl triple dog dared him.

 

[Ananas Astra]

Kondratiuk is still in Beijing practicing and he has an IG video up of him trying a quintuple Salchow. It's still over a half-rotation short (and really closer to only 4.25 rotations), but wow. I think he's just messing around and AFAIK wasn't seriously learning anything like that before.

He also "remembered" his quad lutz with both arms over his head and posted another story of a triple axel-quad sal-combo.
Dude's having the time of his life.

 

[Frau Muller]

He also "remembered" his quad lutz with both arms over his head and posted another story of a triple axel-quad sal-combo.
Dude's having the time of his life.

He was in the stands cheering the Russian women’s SPs.

 

[Cherub721]

I'm not complaining, but I was wondering how he was allowed to practice. He wasn't on the gala list.

 

[seabm7]

I'm not complaining, but I was wondering how he was allowed to practice. He wasn't on the gala list.

I think he decided to participate in the closing ceremony.

 

[BittyBug]

Per Jackie Wong, there is practice ice for all the skaters staying for the closing ceremonies.

 

[Karen-W]

He posted on his IG later in the day yesterday a comment about heading home, so I'm not sure he will be staying through the closing ceremony.

 

[Spikefan]

Watch this story by Mark Kondratiuk on Instagram before it disappears.

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Looks like he is on a plane headed home and ROC gave him a gold medal.

 

[Wyliefan]

Maybe Grassl triple dog dared him.

Or Uno -- apparently he tried one too: https://twitter.com/yawning_shoma/status/1493826630606856192

 

[angi]

Watch this story by Mark Kondratiuk on Instagram before it disappears.

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Looks like he is on a plane headed home and ROC gave him a gold medal.

As we expected, Russia will hand out their own medals and will hold their own medal ceremonies, and the only skaters who will truly suffer consequences are those who aren't even Russian. Shameful.

 

[Karen-W]

As we expected, Russia will hand out their own medals and will hold their own medal ceremonies, and the only skaters who will truly suffer consequences are those who aren't even Russian. Shameful.

I think Russia/ROC is playing with fire here, if they're pulling this sort of stunt. I wonder just how pissed the IOC will be with that.

 

[angi]

I think Russia/ROC is playing with fire here, if they're pulling this sort of stunt. I wonder just how pissed the IOC will be with that.

Agreed, then again they ran an institutionalized doping system and got out of it pretty much unscathed so who even knows anymore.