I don’t think that top American coaches would hesitate to get rid of a problem student. Of course they have to fill their slots, but I don’t think the top coaches have to worry about not being able to do so. One student leaves, others are queueing to take his/her place.Or you can think about it the other way around. Russian coaches can kick out any student (except those few elite ones in the national team who bring in funding) for any reason any time - if they lose interest in a student, if they think the student is going to grow too tall, or whose parents are not cooperative enough, or the student doesn’t work hard enough, or is too chubby... American coaches have to keep working with as many students as it takes to fill their coaching slots because that’s what their living depends on. Not every student they coach is (in their eyes) future star material.
In general, in life, in profession, in choice of partners, students, coaches work places, houses, cars, you name it - any person, in any country, when reaches a level where he/she can "chose the best" or "what he/she wants". the person chooses what's best or what he/she wants.Or you can think about it the other way around. Russian coaches can kick out any student (except those few elite ones in the national team who bring in funding) for any reason any time - if they lose interest in a student, if they think the student is going to grow too tall, or whose parents are not cooperative enough, or the student doesn’t work hard enough, or is too chubby... American coaches have to keep working with as many students as it takes to fill their coaching slots because that’s what their living depends on. Not every student they coach is (in their eyes) future star material.
the teams...for half the time he paid everything I believe for both of them. Only Dylan got funding from Skate Canada up until the time Lubov got her permanent residency as per Skate Canada rules. She obtained that I think at the end of their 3rd yr, and she became a citizen during their last year. Re: Canada's rules she was not allowed to earn money until she got her permanent residency.Was Dylan's expenses just for him or was that the team's collective expenses?
Because she's considered a ringer, with the kind of opportunities that Ukrainian skaters don't have, ie coaching and training conditions.I am not sure why they complain if she is in top ten Russian junior ladies.
I think the opposite: ifETA: about the country having only one spot, well, if Shabotova is any good, she will get two spots. If she is not any good, Arkhipova will not have anything to worry about.
I think you mixed up their names.Because she's considered a ringer, with the kind of opportunities that Ukrainian skaters don't have, ie coaching and training conditions.
I think the opposite: if Arkhipova doesn't earn two, but is still the top skater in Ukraine, no locals will get any spots, and that will piss people off.
Shabotova was only 14th at Russian Junior Nationals this year. Arkhipova's SB score is higher than Shabotova's from that event--by @2 points. (I've no idea how Shabotova skated there as I've never seen her). Arkhipova URs, and my guess is that Shabotova does too because most of the Russian ladies' exports do. But we'll see. The reality is that Arkhipova is going to have to fix her UR issue to be more competitive internationally anyway. Her scores have that tendency to drop a lot upon review. Ukraine needs athletes that are competitive in three events in order to try to climb back into the team competition at the Olympics. (Which could be an argument for bringing someone in for one discipline in order to help earn Olympic opportunities for other local skaters).I am not sure why they complain if she is in top ten Russian junior ladies.
If Arkhipova is only tiny bit behind Shabotova, she shouldn’t make such a fuss, in my view. It is all in her hands, she can improve and overtake Shabotova. If it wasn’t Shabotova but let’s say Scherbakova, I would understand that she feels she has no chance to compete with her, but it is not like if beating Shabotova is so impossible. Arkhipova is old enough to go abroad for better training, if she is unhappy with the coaching she can get in her country. So demanding that Shabotova trains somewhere else is ridiculous. At the moment, Shabotova is not even senior eligible, so it is not as if she was able to ‘steal’ the spot for Europeans and worlds from Arkhipova. And by the time Shabotova is age eligible, Arkhipova has two years to improve enough to beat her. I think it will actually benefit to their country that there is some internal competition. At least it will be pushing them to work harder.I have to say, I'm on Arkhipova's side in this. Shabotova is maybe a smidge better but she's had better training environment(though Panova's team does not have near the conditions as Sambo or CSKA). And I don't think that smidge matters too much. I believe that if Arkhipova were in Russia she would be developed into making the JGP Final.
OTOH, Shabotova is not senior eligible for two seasons so Arkhipova will have the opportunity to go to Europeans and Worlds then.
I think they need to help Arkhipova get better training conditions and/or demand Shabotova train somewhere else(maybe not this season but in a season or two).
I wonder what Shabotova relationship is to Ukraine anyway.
Nobody yet knows, and her family is not giving details. it is assumed that either one of her parents (or grand-parents) were born in Ukraine (which can be said about half the "russians" including me), or she has some kind of relatives who live in Ukraine (which can be said about half the "russians" including me again)...I wonder what Shabotova relationship is to Ukraine anyway.
However Morozov can be a genius when he sets his mind to it, so I will reserve judgement until we see the programs in a few weeks time!
I think these are important points that often get lost in the romance angle between Stolbova and Morozov.Morozov has done choreography for Stolbova before, so we have an idea of what he has done for her already. He worked on her programs in the 2014-15, 2015-16, and 2016-17 seasons
I totally agree. I can only imagine how incredibly frustrating this is for Arkhipova and her team, but I am relieved Shabatova still isn't senior-elligible for two seasons. Arkhipova has been one of my favorite junior ladies the past two seasons, and now she has an opportunity to establish herself on the senior level. She can't control this circumstance, and just needs to focus on what she can control. Who knows what Shabatova's jumps will look like in two years, anyways?It's not a guarantee, but it's understandable how a skater and/or parent would react the way Arkhipova's did when they get little support from the Fed, and they have been supporting their skater in less than NJ ideal conditions.
I think this is a process that will take some time. But even if she would be released in the next weeks there could be no chance to skate for Germany internationally this season. You have to be in the German anti-doping test program for at least 6 months. To go to Europeans or make the scores for worlds in time it would not work out.With the recent releases do we have word if Lena Pavlova is released to skate for (w/ Blommaert) by now?