#TeamTrainwreck 21: Ride until the fantasy ends!

[Wyliefan]

We are here for you and we can offer help! ?

I said what I said. Suck it, hater.

 

[Colonel Green]

Doing pairs, I realized once again: Pairs is my absolute favorite discipline!

Boss' All time favorite list
Pairs Top 20

The bossman's real list that he is too embarrassed to share:

1. Duhamel/Radford

The rest of the list is blank, no one else can compare.

 

[mjb52]

Ha @Ka3sha glad to see I'm not the only Ilinykh/Katsalapov/Sinitsina out there. I prefer S/K now but I/K had some great programs.

My list purely off the top of my head would also have K & O, U & Z, Duchesneys, Silverstein/Pekarek, Roca/Sur, Annissina/Peizerat, maybe Davis/White depending on my mood, some Papadakis/Cizeron, and some room for when I go back and explore the 2000s more. Height of my ice dance fandom was the 90s and the past two years. I'm still not sure how I ever knew about I/K at all, I think youtube's algorithm might have recommended their Junior Worlds short when I was re-watching the Duchesneys program because they were both to Inti Illimani or something? I can't even remember how long youtube has been around anymore.

 

[SmallFairy]

You can start with yours!
Afterwards everyone knows it can't get more embarassing

At your service! Stay tuned it’ll be up tomorrow too. And as usual, I won’t be a tiny bit embarrassed I mean, you already know who 3/4 of those guys are, or? But don’t worry. I AM NO WELFARE!!!

 

[Jeschke]

Folks, check Pavlov's and Kolesnik's challenge on IG Story

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This is and the same time as I expect tragic MESS to happen any second

 

[rfisher]

I noticed they didn't challenge Trusova. She'd have And they'd have been embarrassed by a 15 year old girl.

 

[Hanna]

Happy birthday, @Hanna! Sorry about your concert. When this is all over, concerts are one of the things I'm looking forward to most.

Wheeee! @Hanna birthday
Best wishes my fav harmonic Finn!
Beers and gummies are opened in your honour!

Happy birthday @Hanna ???
Hope you can find some concert you can enjoy online! (Or just YouTube ice dance )

Merci beaucoup! YouTube ice dance worked great as well.

Good idead with dance. This might take some longer thoughts than for the ladies ?
Speaking of ladies. Have I missed your list?

You haven't. I'm working on it.

I bet there are more than @Hanna and me perfering MoodyMaria/Trankov over Volo/Trankov.

Yes!! Gotta be!

Wheeee love reading everyone's lists!!

 

[Vagabond]

I noticed they didn't challenge Trusova. She'd have And they'd have been embarrassed by a 15 year old girl.

The Russian men have been reduced to picking on someone their own size. ?‍

 

[Hanna]

Ok pairs top 12, again not in order except the first one

1. Savchenko/Massot/Szolkowy
Berton/Hotarek
Boikova/Kozlovski
Cain/LeDuc
Dube/Davison
Marchei/Hotarek
Moore-Towers/Moscovitch
Mukhortova/Trankov
Sale/Pelletier
Seguin/Bilodeau
Stolbova/Klimov pre her haircut
Sui/Han

Honorable mentions also to Duskova/Bidar, McLaughlin/Brubaker, Kayne/O'Shea....

And like @Jeschke , I could really dedicate a whole list to RUS junior pairs who either made it or didn't (mostly didn't)... or will or won't (of the current ones).

BTW does anyone else confess to scrolling through the ISU bios page to make the lists.

 

[Jeschke]

Ok pairs top 12, again not in order except the first one

Where are B/S? DRAMA!

BTW does anyone else confess to scrolling through the ISU bios page to make the lists.

My tactic: Wikipedia Euros/Worlds Results 2000-2019 + RUS nationals. Works pretty fine for me

or will or won't (of the current ones).

?
You are already having someone in mind?

McLaughlin/Brubaker

Wheee!
One of my fav pairs short programs all time, not top5, but top10 for sure! #softie

MCLAUGHLIN / BRUBAKER SP Rostelecom Cup 2009

www.youtube.com

 

[Ka3sha]

Pairs:
Moskvina
Stolbova/Klimov
Boikova/Kozlovskii (yes, that soon and that high )
Sui/Han
Berezhnaya/Sikharulidze
Gordeeva/Grinkov
Totmianina/Marinin
Mishkutenok/Dmitriev
Zhen/Zhao
Bazarova/Deputat (surprise-surprise, even for me)
Moore-Towers/Moscovitch

Don’t know what to say about Volosozhar/Trankov and Aljiona with both partners. They are definitely among the greatest ones, I did truly enjoy some of their programs, appreciate their paths in sport, am very glad with how the things end up in the end (poor Robin though), but can’t say I am/was a big fan of any of them..


Ladies (non-order):
Kostner
Tuktamysheva
Asada
Sotnikova
Arakawa
Kwan
Konstantinova
Kostornaia
Medvedeva (mostly due to her off ice personality and this year Rostelecom, but I can’t help)
Higuchi
Bell

Too many current skaters, am sure I’m missing someone from the past.

 

[Ka3sha]

Looking at @Hanna ‘a list - how could I forgot about Berton/Hotarek

 

[Amy L]

I'm still about McLoughlin/Brubaker. They (and Stiegler/Zimmerman ) were my favorite American pairs ever. Not that it's saying a lot, because I am 99.9999999% wannabe Russian trash Just look at a Wikipedia page of Russian pairs champs, and I could just copy and paste that.

I don't know if there's any point of me trying to make any lists. I dislike almost all ladiiezzz so I would just go for a list that features my favorite OES like Anna Rechnio and Hubert and... well maybe I'll think about making lists.

 

[Hanna]

?
You are already having someone in mind?

Who I think won't make it out of the current RUS junior pairs? I kinda fear for all of them, knowing the percentage that ever make it big. Thank god for B/K, got my biggest wish with them!

Wheee!
One of my fav pairs short programs all time, not top5, but top10 for sure! #softie

MCLAUGHLIN / BRUBAKER SP Rostelecom Cup 2009

www.youtube.com

Thanks, I didn't remember that particular program! Nice! Not surprised you liked the classical Ghost program.

 

[Hanna]

Looking at @Hanna ‘a list - how could I forgot about Berton/Hotarek

It helps going through the ISU bios (although it takes a lot of skimming through random names ). I would have forgotten half of my teams had I just tried to come up with them off the top of my head.

 

[Jeschke]

Bazarova/Deputat (surprise-surprise, even for me)

Wheee
Tbh I had no clue where to put them (same with I/M).
Their 'My Way' SP was just everything

Bazarova-Deputat, SP, Russian Open Skates 2014

Новогорск, 06.09.2014

www.youtube.com

(Here the version from the early season with the Totmianina-memorial-death-spiral to start; this one was better than they modified program later)

 

[Ka3sha]

Ha @Ka3sha glad to see I'm not the only Ilinykh/Katsalapov/Sinitsina out there. I prefer S/K now but I/K had some great programs.

I absolutely loved I/K from their first (and last) junior season and still have a soft spot for both.
They are epitomes of trainwreckness for me (at least, in ice dance) - endless talent, splats, weird programs, all the drama and , at the same time, medals
No matter how many mistakes they made and how mad I was at them at times, I still couldn’t help and rooted for them. And continue to do so in Nikita’s case right now.

 

[Amy L]

Let me give my pairs list a go. This is from the top of my head, so this is subject to change.

1. Gordeeva/Grinkov

2. Berezhnaya/Sikharulidze

then in no particular order:

Savchenko/Szolkowy (I liked her with Massot too, but I only loved their 2018, so I have to go with S/S overall)

Tarasova/Morozov

Bechke/Petrov (mostly just their pro programs)

McLoughlin/Brubaker

Iliushechkina/Maisuradze

Stolbova/Klimov

Shklover/Mintals (their Gremlins program is nowhere to be found on YT, it however lives on in my brain)

Seguin/Bilodeau

Obertas with both Palamarchuk and Slavnov. But Sokolov can gtfo

Kostiukovich/Ialin

honorable mention goes to Trankov. I saw him skate in person as an OTT wild little 14 year old, watched him grow into OTT 34 year old

 

[Wyliefan]

I don't think I've ever ubered any pairs long term except Gordeeva/Grinkov and Sui/Han (although I was thrilled for Savchenko/Massot's win, because how could you not be)? I'm starting to uber B/K, P/K, and I/B, though. And there are one or two young pairs coming up that have ubering potential.

I might have mentioned N/K under dance if we're including juniors, although that just started recently too.

 

[Amy L]

dance:

Klimova/Ponomarenko
Anissina/Peizerat
Torvill/Dean
Grischuk/Platov
Rakhamo/Kokko
Drobiazko/Vanagas
Denkova/Staviski
Khokhlova/Novitski
Domnina/Shabalin pre knee injury
Ilinykh/Katsalapov minus Ghost year
Davis/White
Papadakis/Cizeron

and KHUDA!!

men:

Ilia Kulik
Alexei Yagudin (the skating, not the personality)
Denis Ten
Dmitri Aliev
Mikhail Kolyada
Matthew Savoie
Josh Farris
Adam Rippon
Kurt Browning
Brian Orser

still can't think of enough ladiezz I like to make a list. Maybe I'll just do a list of my favorite Russian randoms like Korobeynikova and Sheveleva

 

[mjb52]

Speaking of Khuda, do we have absolutely any idea whatsoever who she is skating with? I never was able to tell if the Bazin thing was confirmed or not. I guess at the moment she probably isn't skating with anyone but you know... for the future! Also, I was avoiding juniors in order to give them time to really develop, but I will make an exception and put her and whoever her partner is on my list for sure.

 

[Vagabond]

I like the Tatiana/Nikolai iteration of Tarasova/Morozov more than the Evgenia/Vladimir one.

 

[skatingguy]

Top 10's in no particular order:

Men
Kurt Browning
Brian Orser
Brian Boitano
Jeff Buttle
Patrick Chan
Javier Fernandez
Nobunari Oda
Yuzuru Hanyu
Alexei Yagudin
Donald Jackson

Ladies
Elizabeth Manley
Michelle Kwan
Kristi Yamaguchi
Midori Ito
Chen Lu
Joannie Rochette
Kaetlyn Osmond
Yuna Kim
Mao Asada
Barbara Ann Scott

Pairs
Underhill/Martini
Gordeeva/Grinkov
Brasseur/Eisler
Berezhnaya/Sikharulidze
Sale/Pelletier
Shen/Zhao
Pang/Tong
Sui/Han
Duhamel/Radford
Savchenko/Massot

Ice Dance
Papadakis/Cizeron
Virtue/Moir
Davis/White
Dubreuil/Lauzon
Bourne/Kraatz
Anissina/Peizerat
Krylova/Ovsyannikov
Baestemianova/Bukin
Wilson/McCall
Torvill/Dean

 

[alchemy void]

Same for @alchemy void .

I tried to make a top 10 ladies list before, but gave up because it was too difficult.

The very best I can do is a top 31.

Alena Leonova
Anastasia Galustyan
Anastasia Gimazetdinova
Anna Pogorilaya
Anna Rechnio
Ashley Wagner
Carolina Kostner
Caryn Kadavy
Dasa Grm
Denise Biellmann
Elena Liashenko
Elizabeta Tuktamysheva
Fumie Suguri
Joshi Helgesson
Kaori Sakamoto
Krisztina Czako
Laetitia Hubert
Loena Hendrickx
Mao Asada
Maria Butyrskaya
Mariah Bell
Marina Kielmann
Nicole Bobek
Olga Markova
Sasha Cohen
Satoko Miyahara
So Youn Park
Surya Bonaly
Tonya Harding
Vanessa Gusmeroli
Viktoria Helgesson

 

[skatingguy]

I tried to make a top 10 ladies list before, but gave up because it was too difficult.

The very best I can do is a top 31.

This explains so much.

 

[Wyliefan]

I haven't ubered that many guys. Paul, of course, and Nathan and Javi. Jeff Buttle a little. I loved Kurt and Scott in their professional years. Can't really think of many others. I like Jason Brown and Mikhail Kolyada and Shoma Uno, but not quite to the point of uberdom. I want to uber Camden and maybe also Tomoki, if they'll only let me.

 

[Vagabond]

A Top 31 list that doesn't include Michelle Kwan. Certain people on FSU would ban you, @alchemy void . Fortunately, to the best of my knowledge, none of them has the power to do so.

 

[mjb52]

I can't believe I forgot Torvill and Dean, I may need to get psychoanalysis to explore this.

 

[alchemy void]

A Top 31 list that doesn't include Michelle Kwan. Certain people on FSU would ban you, @alchemy void .

I like Kwan quite a bit. In fact her 96-97 programs rank amongst my favorite of all time. But she lost me after 2002, and honestly, she's just too good and popular to make this cutthroat exclusive list.

 

[Wyliefan]

I haven't ubered that many guys. Paul, of course, and Nathan and Javi. Jeff Buttle a little. I loved Kurt and Scott in their professional years. Can't really think of many others. I like Jason Brown and Mikhail Kolyada and Shoma Uno, but not quite to the point of uberdom. I want to uber Camden and maybe also Tomoki, if they'll only let me.

I FORGOT DORNBUSH. Dangit!