Probably they would have won the TES, but not the FD. H/D lost 6.30 points in base value on the lift and spin, but you did not take into consideration the lost GOE on the lift. I think they would have won the FD just by a bit, though - maybe tenths or even hundredths of a mark. But, if Hubbell's twizzle would have been level 4 instead of 3 also with higher GOE, the difference would have been a bit larger. As for the PCS - that is questionable. H/D have the stronger skating skills and, even if we don't like their FD theme that much, they perform and interpret it quite well.
At the GPF, H/D scored 6.73 for that lift. Today, they scored 1.62. So they lost about 5-5.5 pts. They also got L2 on their spin at the GPF and scored a little less than what they scored today. But each time, they received mostly 3s and 4s, so I don't know how much higher their GOE would have gone today - judges aren't told the level calls in real time. And yes, if Hubbell had done her twizzles perfectly, they would have gotten more points, just as Madi and Evan would have if their step sequences had been scored L4. There are lots of "ifs", but it's a sport and your placement is based on what you do at that particular comp. I only mentioned the TES prior to the reviews b/c I thought it was worth noting that today, C/B's TES was higher than H/D's even before deductions and that the lift, which everyone is focusing on, was not the sole factor in C/B's win.
I was not comparing their scores or mistakes to other competitions, just looking at what they got here, and what they could have gotten without those mistakes. So, with a level 4 spin they would have gotten 7 to 7.5 points more - that's 126.71 or 127.21 points in the FD in total. Of course, that's a "what if" scenario, and Madison and Evan could have gotten a level 4 step sequence as well, like you said. Or Hubbell/Donohue could have gotten level 4s on their OFSts (theoretically). But you started this "what if" conversation with your "even without H/D's lift deduction, C/B would still have won"
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Yes, I saw that on Instagram
. Of course, when the first surprise and shock wore off, they became elated . Just the first reaction seemed a bit different. But I am really glad that they did not let that impact them too much.
Before they left the K & C someone came over - you can hear them saying something about the stationery lift. At least they knew at that time, why they lost so many points.
Oh thank G-d. If I hear one more Latin Rhythm I shall have to consider a different sport to love.
Really nice article on the ISU website
https://www.isu.org/figure-skating/...adison-chock-evan-bates-usa-are-back-on-track
I'm with you. Foregone conclusions kill a sport.
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