From Russia With Love (No 32): Spring to Summer 2019

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Lol lol

“I am quite sure that besides her stripping, the public also likes her skating in general.” Pogo on tuk!! CLASSIC

Lol lol
 
So Tuk responded to a comment made by Pogo .....
(can’t translate Pogo’s comment right now, can any Russian speaker please help?)

https://twitter.com/tuktikliza/status/1108277732356640768?s=21

Tuk’s tweet translated:
“Anya, you have been paying too much attention to me lately. Although I have no problems with attention. Are you worried about my future children? First of all, I will teach them to respect their elders, their coach and the work of other athletes, and not to look for excuses for their failures with other people.”

What did Pogo say??

Oh my. There really wasn’t any reason why Anna needed to say that; she could’ve just said “no, that’s not for me”. Liza has the right to do whatever she wants. Loved Anna as a skater, but that’s none of her business. I’m disappointed.
 
Oh my. There really wasn’t any reason why Anna needed to say that; she could’ve just said “no, that’s not for me”. Liza has the right to do whatever she wants. Loved Anna as a skater, but that’s none of her business. I’m disappointed.


If Tuktik can dish it then she should be able to take it. Nobody has to like everything you do and they're entitled to respond. I saw nothing mean spirited in what Anna said, Tuk's response is a bit over the top. But apparently this is just normal conversation, right?
 
russian pairs depth are the deepest since the 1980s

you have Tarasova/Morozov, Zabijako/Enbert Boikova/Kozlovskii then Pavyuchenkova/Khodykin, Efimova/Korovin
then you have upcoming seniors Mishina/Galliamov whho are expected to compete and bump Tarasova /Morozov for russian no.1 next season.

then Theres more juniors coming seniors.
 
1 Mishina / Galliamov
2 Tarasova /Morozov
3 Boikova / Kozlovskii
4 Zabijako / Enbert
5 Pavlyuchenko / Khodykin
6 Efimova / Korovin

did i miss any otehr serniors ?
 
russian pairs depth are the deepest since the 1980s

you have Tarasova/Morozov, Zabijako/Enbert Boikova/Kozlovskii then Pavyuchenkova/Khodykin, Efimova/Korovin
then you have upcoming seniors Mishina/Galliamov whho are expected to crush and bump Tarasova /Morozov to No.2 next season

then Theres more juniors coming seniors.
Mishina/Galliamov are talented skaters, but I don’t think they will be a threat to Tarasova/Morozov next season, unless T/M self destruct during the competition. I don’t think Mishina/Galliamov will be a threat to Zabijako/Enbert and Boikova/Kozlovski next season either. They will be fighting with Pavliuschenko/Khodykin to be the Russian pair number four.
 
1 Mishina / Galliamov
2 Tarasova /Morozov
3 Boikova / Kozlovskii
4 Zabijako / Enbert
5 Pavlyuchenko / Khodykin
6 Efimova / Korovin

did i miss any otehr serniors ?

Well, there could be Stolbova/Novoselov, and maybe Ustimkina/Rogonov (I think they might stay doing shows, but you never know...)

I really like M/G but they are not "expected to crush" anyone, lol. Just let them progress like normal...they could work on the PCS side quite a bit, still.
 
1 Mishina / Galliamov
2 Tarasova /Morozov
3 Boikova / Kozlovskii
4 Zabijako / Enbert
5 Pavlyuchenko / Khodykin
6 Efimova / Korovin

did i miss any otehr serniors ?

Yes, you missed some. next season Kudriavtseva/Spiridonov and Poluyanova/Sopot are newly seniors because after this season they age out of juniors.
 
Well, there could be Stolbova/Novoselov, and maybe Ustimkina/Rogonov (I think they might stay doing shows, but you never know...)

I really like M/G but they are not "expected to crush" anyone, lol. Just let them progress like normal...they could work on the PCS side quite a bit, still.

ok i got carried away with sensationalism, I edited my post. lol
still they have bigger pair elements than Tarasova /Morozov if they improve their PCS
they will challenge for russian no.1 next season
 
1 Mishina / Galliamov
2 Tarasova /Morozov
3 Boikova / Kozlovskii
4 Zabijako / Enbert
5 Pavlyuchenko / Khodykin
6 Efimova / Korovin

did i miss any otehr serniors ?
Oh, you also forgot, Moser has been promising two super super promising new senior pairs, who will portray skating as she imagines it. I am guessing one of them is supposed to be Zhuk/Miroshkin and the other one probably Akopova/Shagalov. The former one has not even done any competition yet; Miroshkin seems to be quite busy with the school Lipnitskaya/Ilynikh, travelling around the world giving tuition to kids, so I don’t think he is working that hard on his pair career to be competitive. The other pair at least did some competition, but even though they are still junior eligible, Moser doesn’t seem to want them to compete in juniors; she is preparing them for seniors. Their results were such that they wouldn’t get JGP spot anyway. They would completely disappear among the numbers of talented junior pairs in Russia, although to be fair, they are a relatively new pair so one can’t expect miracles yet.
 
Sounds like it. A professional from the rink CSKA posted this.
Leonid 40 "Ковтун, похоже, закончил с ФК." - "Kovtun, looks like, is finished with (quitting) FS".

But it is not official, or even unofficially confirmed.
Kovtun also posted on social media a foto, which many find at best "strange"... "throwing himself on God's mercy".
https://vk.com/makspalych?z=photo78614933_456240575/album78614933_00/rev

That would be a real shame. He worked so hard to make the comeback and with the Russian men in such a mess he could easily have challenged for future world and Olympic team.

I know he's injured but maybe he took one look at TAT and his hack of a coach and thought it just wasn't worth going through it all again or something :D

I wouldn't be surprised if he was totally wasted mentally but I hope it's not true and he isn't done.
 
1 Mishina / Galliamov
2 Tarasova /Morozov
3 Boikova / Kozlovskii
4 Zabijako / Enbert
5 Pavlyuchenko / Khodykin
6 Efimova / Korovin

did i miss any otehr serniors ?

Yes, you missed T&M at the top of the list. :)

They are still Russia’s number one.

I have watched M&G. No way they will be number one in Russia next season. They are not that great. They could be number 4 or 5. The only pairs that can displace T&M next season are B&K and Z&E, the latter being a very long shot.

At the start of next season

1. T&M
2.Z&E or B&K
3. B&K or Z&E

After that, anyone can be 4,5,6. They are almost same. I think E&K are technically the weakest.
 
Watching Z/E and T/M back to back it's true the latter are far superior when it comes to elements and basics but I found Z/E far more dynamic in the free at worlds when the pressure was on. They looked ready to take advantage of the opportunity given to them and most of all didn't let the performance of P/J get to them. T/M held it together but they looked stale and lifeless in comparison.

I don't think it will change anytime soon but between Nationals and worlds Z/E seem to have closed the gap a bit or at least act like they have.

And of course B/K look ready to pounce at the first mistake either one makes. Of course overall they wouldn't be #1 or even #2 but I could see them challenge on a competition by competition basis and in time overtake them. They're definitely defacto #3 now though.
 
Yes, you missed T&M at the top of the list. :)

They are still Russia’s number one.

I have watched M&G. No way they will be number one in Russia next season. They are not that great. They could be number 4 or 5. The only pairs that can displace T&M next season are B&K and Z&E, the latter being a very long shot.

At the start of next season

1. T&M
2.Z&E or B&K
3. B&K or Z&E

After that, anyone can be 4,5,6. They are almost same. I think E&K are technically the weakest.

if B/K are already defacto russian no.3 then M/G can go higher as their pair elements and jumps are much bigger
B/K have higher PCS because they are seniors now. If M/G can close that gap in their senior debut, not only will they be challenging for russian no.3 but as no.1 is probable and could topple Tarasova / Morozov who don't do well in huge pressure.

how does this not a challenge for Tarasova / Morozov ?
even Galliamov expression is better than Morozov

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hY8ZmgZ6FI

now russian pairs is in good hands and its back to men being the weakest link as usual. lol
 
if B/K are already defacto russian no.3 then M/G can go higher as their pair elements and jumps are much bigger
B/K have higher PCS because they are seniors now. If M/G can close that gap in their senior debut, not only will they be challenging for russian no.3 but as no.1 is probable and could topple Tarasova / Morozov who don't do well in huge pressure.

how does this not a challenge for Tarasova / Morozov ?
even Galliamov expression is better than Morozov

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hY8ZmgZ6FI

now russian pairs is in good hands and its back to men being the weakest link as usual. lol
Mishina/Galliamov will close the gap only if they are as consistent as Boikova/Kozlovski has been this season, and if they significantly improve their basic skating/everything in between the elements. At the moment, Mishina/Galliamov have not been as consistent (good enough for juniors but not good enough for seniors). They also skate a bit heavy and small. They need to skate lighter and bigger. I don’t believe they will close the gap in the off season. They will be fighting with Pavliuschenko/Khodykin about who will be the fourth and who the fifth Russian senior pair.
 
if B/K are already defacto russian no.3 then M/G can go higher as their pair elements and jumps are much bigger
B/K have higher PCS because they are seniors now. If M/G can close that gap in their senior debut, not only will they be challenging for russian no.3 but as no.1 is probable and could topple Tarasova / Morozov who don't do well in huge pressure.

how does this not a challenge for Tarasova / Morozov ?
even Galliamov expression is better than Morozov

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hY8ZmgZ6FI

now russian pairs is in good hands and its back to men being the weakest link as usual. lol

Ok you are an Uber fan of M&G, I get it. They have not even competed as senior and you are drowning them Russia’s number one. I find that laughable. I have seen them skate and I would not put them anywhere near the current top three. They could not even skate clean last fall.

I won’t bother watching your yt link. I have seen them in person. I am happy that MISHINA found a partner who is better than the one who dumped her, but that is where it ends for me.

I will not read your posts on this topic. I am not going to listen to your ridiculous claims about a junior pair that cannot even skate clean, and is nowhere close to the top pairs in their basic skating.
 
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I like M/G the most out of the up-and-coming Russian pairs (B/K, P/I, E/K, P/S, etc) but it's a bit of a stretch to think they'll be challenging T/M or even Z/E for the top 2 Russian pairs spots next season. They certainly have potential but I think it will take at least one season for them to challenge as Russia 1. They might be that by the next Oly season but that's still 3 years away.
 
Watching Z/E and T/M back to back it's true the latter are far superior when it comes to elements and basics but I found Z/E far more dynamic in the free at worlds when the pressure was on. They looked ready to take advantage of the opportunity given to them and most of all didn't let the performance of P/J get to them. T/M held it together but they looked stale and lifeless in comparison.

I don't think it will change anytime soon but between Nationals and worlds Z/E seem to have closed the gap a bit or at least act like they have.

And of course B/K look ready to pounce at the first mistake either one makes. Of course overall they wouldn't be #1 or even #2 but I could see them challenge on a competition by competition basis and in time overtake them. They're definitely defacto #3 now though.

Z&E skated great in this competition. I have seen them improve each year. I think T&M May be feeling the pressure of expectations. They need to learn how to handle it and use the opportunity to skate their best. I am still satisfied for now, because they were better at these worlds than they were earlier in the season, esp. at GPF. Zhenya was really struggling. I hope this performance gives her some confidence.
 
I like M/G the most out of the up-and-coming Russian pairs (B/K, P/I, E/K, P/S, etc) but it's a bit of a stretch to think they'll be challenging T/M or even Z/E for the top 2 Russian pairs spots next season. They certainly have potential but I think it will take at least one season for them to challenge as Russia 1. They might be that by the next Oly season but that's still 3 years away.
Actually, I can see Boikova/Kozlovski fighting for the bronze medal at worlds next year. I can’t imagine them beating clean Sui/Han, but let’s face it, Sui/Han are injured quite often and we don’t know if they will be at worlds next year. (I hope they will, but they are injured far too often). All the other four pairs that placed above them were pretty inconsistent throughout the season. Tarasova/Morozov are great when they are on, but wasn’t this the first competition this season when they were (nearly) clean? Zabijako/Enbert often double at least one side-by-side jump, so does Peng/Jin. James/Cipres seem to be more consistent than in previous years and the judges seem to try hard to help them, but at this worlds they showed that even they are just humans and can make mistakes under pressure. This season Boikova/Kozlovski were quite disadvantaged with comparison with those other pairs because as fresh seniors, their PCS was automatically lower. If they remain consistent throughout the next season, by the time worlds 2020 come, B/K could be fighting for a medal.
 
Actually, I can see Boikova/Kozlovski fighting for the bronze medal at worlds next year. I can’t imagine them beating clean Sui/Han, but let’s face it, Sui/Han are injured quite often and we don’t know if they will be at worlds next year. (I hope they will, but they are injured far too often). All the other four pairs that placed above them were pretty inconsistent throughout the season. Tarasova/Morozov are great when they are on, but wasn’t this the first competition this season when they were (nearly) clean? Zabijako/Enbert often double at least one side-by-side jump, so does Peng/Jin. James/Cipres seem to be more consistent than in previous years and the judges seem to try hard to help them, but at this worlds they showed that even they are just humans and can make mistakes under pressure. This season Boikova/Kozlovski were quite disadvantaged with comparison with those other pairs because as fresh seniors, their PCS was automatically lower. If they remain consistent throughout the next season, by the time worlds 2020 come, B/K could be fighting for a medal.
That is entirely possible. However, they also had the advantage, coming into this season, of being one of several just-up-from-juniors teams, who were all battling for the Russia 3 spot. I think that's a different sort of pressure and expectation, and it's a lot easier to go into Worlds as your country's #3 with no medal expectations. They certainly have skated quite well this season but let's see how they do next season when there is a bit more pressure and belief that they can challenge Z/E for Russia #2. They've pulled ahead of the rest of the young Russian pairs teams and are now going to be expected to move up internationally. As far as challenging for a Worlds bronze... Certainly all of the teams that finished ahead of them have issues with consistency. On any given day, I'd say it's a coin toss who gets the bronze - they're all evenly matched right now - and B/K have definitely established themselves in that group rather than as part of the pack with the 7-9 finishers - they were closer to the bronze medal than they were to 7th place.
 
Were B/K one of youngest team at worlds, if not the youngest? Compare to everyone else in the top 10 they looked like newborn babies :lol:
 
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