Stefka
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Hocke/Blommaert were not skating to Carmen...
Thanks, I changed it. I did not take note and obviously mixed something up.
Hocke/Blommaert were not skating to Carmen...
And exactaly with the point I was complaining about. Lifting Marold to bronze with PCS she never gets in any international. Scheidt was close to Schott at Challenger series this season, and is put now 8pts behind her, and 4pts behind Weinziel, and most worrisome: only 3pts ahead of Marold. 3!!! This is totally the wrong message sent to Marold here.Seems like the ladies result we were guessing about, doesn’ it?
I have not seen the ladies. To your question about the two pairs. SP was ok for me. With the new scoring system a fall like H/Bs loop throw is really costly. Hase/Seegert did an almost clean program (just the spin was not in sync). In the FP I was a little surprised about the scores, especially the PCS. How can HS score higher than HB with such a FP full of mistakes. HB were almost clean, but it seemed the judges wanted to keep HS in first place.I don’t see it as robbery. Yet, I would love to rewatch the free skates (video won‘t play) so that it might become more obvious to me.
While I am with you in terms of young athletes development and also I respect Scheidt‘s improvement, I didn’t see that remarkable a performance necessarily putting her 3rd. She got better PCS than Marold, though. In turn, Marold features the highest base value by far (5 points and more). Considering what’s going on internationally, technical difficulty has to pay off as well, even if it’s just german nats.
Looking at the overall picture, Scheidt is more well-rounded.
However, under my very eyes both of them would make honorable bronze medalists.
Are there any opinions about Hocke/Blommaert and Hase/Seegert?
Marold's international PCS this season:I don’t see it as robbery. Yet, I would love to rewatch the free skates (video won‘t play) so that it might become more obvious to me.
While I am with you in terms of young athletes development and also I respect Scheidt‘s improvement, I didn’t see that remarkable a performance necessarily putting her 3rd. She got better PCS than Marold, though. In turn, Marold features the highest base value by far (5 points and more). Considering what’s going on internationally, technical difficulty has to pay off as well, even if it’s just german nats.
Looking at the overall picture, Scheidt is more well-rounded.
As mentioned above, H/S did fine in the SP, but were totally off after the stupid fall to start in the FS. Nontheless, H/B are a shadow of last year. The SP only works for Hocke, Blommaert looks like a background actor, the concept for the FS is a total mess. It's not crowd pleasing at all, which could even work out, if the skating is fine, but their entire skating looks so laboured this season, there is no ease in anything.I don’t see it as robbery. Yet, I would love to rewatch the free skates (video won‘t play) so that it might become more obvious to me.
While I am with you in terms of young athletes development and also I respect Scheidt‘s improvement, I didn’t see that remarkable a performance necessarily putting her 3rd. She got better PCS than Marold, though. In turn, Marold features the highest base value by far (5 points and more). Considering what’s going on internationally, technical difficulty has to pay off as well, even if it’s just german nats.
Looking at the overall picture, Scheidt is more well-rounded.
However, under my very eyes both of them would make honorable bronze medalists.
Are there any opinions about Hocke/Blommaert and Hase/Seegert?
I totally disagree here. H/S are on a different level than H/B this season and the only way they come close at Euros is, when H/S completely **** up.Actually at this moment I think they are almost on the same level. I would not predict who will be better at Europeans.
It's possible she changed her mind, but she has said that if she were to continue it would only be with Bruno.Are there any chances left to qualify for euros/worlds for ice dancers?
I am not quite sure what to think about pairs. Again personally I don’t consider one significantly better than the other competitor.
What is it with spots at euros/worlds? It was written somewhere that we probably go down to 1 next season?
H/S had serious technical problems for the better part of their partnership and there is a body tension issue. None of that can be said about H/B. Nevertheless they made a step backwards and the thing with the lifts at Skate America... goodness.
H/S improved a lot and the SP suits them well and looks polished. Like you, @Sabine-Yuna, I am kind of uncertain about the free.
What about the lifts? Are they competitively fast, especially in the end of a 4-minutes fs?
Are they unique enough to stand out from other pairs of their technical level to make a name?
Judges seemed to like H/B a lot last season. While I think they are more memorable than H/S and both very talented skaters and fast learners I keep on wondering whether or not they match each other.
Is there another pair in the present or past we can compare them to (in style and character)?
It’s sometimes like both want to shine but they shine different colors?
Besides, there was one article about Savchenko/Massot saying Savchenko would eventually come back with another partner for Beijing 2022 and now there is second one with similar content. First I didn’t take it seriously, but it doesn’t sound like a joke. Although, who has the level or potential to compete for olympic medals and is „free“?
Do you have a link?Besides, there was one article about Savchenko/Massot saying Savchenko would eventually come back with another partner for Beijing 2022 and now there is second one with similar content.
No, #eurosrace is over for all disciplines.Are there any chances left to qualify for euros/worlds for ice dancers?
To be honest, I don't see much shining in Blommaert. The 1st pairing with Prölss had the most charme (of the youth), we all knew the story. For Vartmann and Hocke, he is a good 'assistant', but it is/was about the girl. It's not meant disrespectful, just my personal opinion/ovservation. Apart from that, I can't see much progress in his jumps and lifts; lifts look easier than with Vartmann but still kinda worrsisome and laboured to me. I never get rid of the feeling boy needs more often go to the gym. Overall H/B seem kinda off this season, as if they lack motivation.It’s sometimes like both want to shine but they shine different colors?
I can't see them dropping to 1 in Euros; both teams should be in reach of Top10 at least, so one Top12 finish to secure 2 spots.What is it with spots at euros/worlds? It was written somewhere that we probably go down to 1 next season?
Do you have a link?
Im März 2018 wurden Savchenko und Massot in Mailand auch noch zum ersten Mal gemeinsam Weltmeister. Inzwischen machen sie Dienst am Publikum bei Eislaufshows. Die in Oberstdorf lebende Sportlerin sagt zum Mangel im Nachwuchs im deutschen Eiskunstlauf: „Eiskunstlauf in Deutschland wird nicht unterstützt. Die Grundlage ist, dass man von klein auf keine Unterstützung kriegt.“ Savchenko will 2022 in Peking noch einmal angreifen, ohne Bruno Massot, der hat Rückenbeschwerden. Aber was auch noch kommt, die beiden haben, wie Savchenko sagt, „eine wunderschöne Geschichte geschrieben“.
The only first class I see in in this entire (trash tv) show is Katarina Witt!Dancing on ice is starting today (20:15, SAT 1).
There’s a lot on social media, e.g. https://web.de/magazine/unterhaltung/tv-film/dancing-on-ice-freuen-stars-grossen-auftritt-33501016
The pro‘s are first class while most of the „stars“ are trash tv.
VPN or free trial subscription to tvspielfilm for example should do the job for expats.
Loved the show
Must have been a barrel!ok, some alcohol was involved.
Must have been a barrel!
Jury:
Katarina Witt (looking better than ever She was the host of 2 seasons of DoI on another german TV channel 2006 and 2007)
Daniel Weiss (national champ 1990,1991)
Judith Williams (TV-host, businesswoman)
Cale Kalay (Choreograph, Dancer)
... I'm kind of surprised this made it on TV-- I didn't think figure skating was very popular in Germany nowadays? Is there a little more interest with S/M's Olympic gold?
(quotenmeter.de)Die Premiere von «Dancing on Ice»war bei Sat.1 mit 2,69 Millionen Zusehern ein Erfolg. Bei den Umworbenen standen 1,25 Millionen und 12,4 Prozent Marktanteil auf dem Papier.
(dwdl.de).Mit fast 18 Prozent Marktanteil war die Show besonders bei den 14- bis 29-Jährigen gefragt.
I was kinda surprised either, they gave it another shot, as the previous seasons were not really successfulThis sounds awesome. I'm kind of surprised this made it on TV-- I didn't think figure skating was very popular in Germany nowadays? Is there a little more interest with S/M's Olympic gold?
This is the most important question! The only acceeptable answer to this is she is having numerous tryouts for her epic comeback!Why the hell isn't Mari in this?!?!
@Jeschke You are a commited skating fan, for sure!
I was trying to stay awake until Dytrt but couldn't. Based on her appearances at various shows, I'd say she is in better shape and better performer than she was in her competitive years.