WillyElliot
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That is just a setup for when she knocks someone down the big stairs.
LOL. Be nice, Nomi!!!
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That is just a setup for when she knocks someone down the big stairs.
Maybe I misworded things @VIETgrlTerifa but my original opinion still stands, About most U.S. centric posters here still can’t accept that Tonya will be on DWTS. and instead of just letting go and “boycotting” they still post here and will likely watch the show. I’m not against anyone feelingWait, are you calling subs stupid? I learned in kink law to try not to yuck other people's yums.![]()
Your post doesn't suck.LOL. Be nice, Nomi!!!
So it seems like Tonya H. is still the center of attention here while Adam Rippon is likely the center of attention when it comes to ice skating with the U.S. general public elsewhere. Come on FSU, I know that we’re bias AF, but bias and stupidity are two different things, the continuing focus on Tonya is just making all of the U.S. skating fans seem like more of the Submissive gays that wanna be tortured for pleasure, just keeping it real![]()
Back to DWTS, what is its normal rating? I don't feel like Rippon and Mirai are huge draws, what are the other non-skating celebrities here?
Just to be clear, that was not real life and never happened, which goes into my point in the other thread about people taking what the movie portrays as fact. Also, jail time and the losing ability to work is NOT uncommon among professional fields. In my field, if somebody embezzled money or mismanaged trust accounts, they could go to jail AND be disbarred from practicing law for life. Even if Tonya ended up taking it to trial and went to jail, she would have still been banned for life.
But Tonya did receive a lifetime ban from the UFSA, did she not? Even though it didn't go down as presented in the movie?
So what if losing the ability to work in a certain profession is common to individuals who break the law in certain ways (or have been said to be complicit in an illegal act, as is the case with Tonya?).
All such individuals would have to reassess and redirect their lives, just as Tonya did. And I'm sure they experienced unhappiness and confusion in the process, regardless of their complicity in the event that ruined their careers.
I'm just saying she never begged to take the jail time as portrayed in the movie and was not blindsided in the way Margot Robbie's tearful version of Tonya was. She knew what she was accepting with the plea bargain. It was never a situation of taking the jail time or being banned from the sport. The latter was most likely happening any way so she chose the option to avoid possible jail time.
I certainly did not take her begging for jail time as fact. I do understand that film does not aim to be a factual account - as admitted at the start of the movie.
I enjoyed the film as a film.
What really happened does not matter to me very much, so many years after the fact.
Mirai and Tonya to me show different approaches can lead to different results. Both had cause to feel the USFS and/or society was stacked up against them in some way and that they would never be given a fair shot and that other skaters were preferred and had advantages beyond anybody's control...but the way they decided to fight through it could not have been more different.
He's my favourite male pro, but he always gets screwed over. They skip him over some years to give partners to less gifted pros. Or they stick him with not so great partners. He's a fantastic dancer (obviously) and he actually managed to make me like Snooki (from Jersey Shore) when she was on the show. I'd love to see him do well.This Sasha Farber guy seems pretty cool.
Right, but it was being discussed in here as a fact and how Tonya wasn't allowed to move on or go back to skating as she was banned for life when other people would have been able to do after serving their time and paying their debt to society. I posted just to show that it is not a fact and provided my example to show it is also a reality for other people too and not just something only Tonya had to deal with as it is not an uncommon occurrence for people to lose their licenses and be banned from jobs if they broke laws or acted unethically as the standard to be banned from certain professions don't require one to be convicted of crimes.
As far as the Tonya vs Vick thing goes:
I don't like either one of them, and I'd be perfectly happy never to hear another word about either.
However, one factor that people forget is that Vick's (horrible, disgusting, etc) actions weren't directly related to his sports career.
Right, but it was being discussed in here as a fact and how Tonya wasn't allowed to move on or go back to skating as she was banned for life when other people would have been able to do after serving their time and paying their debt to society. I posted just to show that it is not a fact and provided my example to show it is also a reality for other people too and not just something only Tonya had to deal with as it is not an uncommon occurrence for people to lose their licenses and be banned from jobs if they broke laws or acted unethically as the standard to be banned from certain professions don't require one to be convicted of crimes.
As far as the Tonya vs Vick thing goes:
I don't like either one of them, and I'd be perfectly happy never to hear another word about either.
However, one factor that people forget is that Vick's (horrible, disgusting, etc) actions weren't directly related to his sports career.
Tonya was a female that would have graduated from high school in Milwaukie, Oregon in 1988. I would say, no, it was not a realistic option.
As far as the Tonya vs Vick thing goes:
I don't like either one of them, and I'd be perfectly happy never to hear another word about either.
However, one factor that people forget is that Vick's (horrible, disgusting, etc) actions weren't directly related to his sports career.
I am about 9 years older than Tonya and came from the gutters of the lower east side of Manhattan and south Brooklyn.
I'm hoping Tonya wins DWTS and then winds up on The Amazing Race, Survivor, Project Runway, Drag Race, ANTM, Masterchef Australia, Top Chef Latino, and every other possible TV show because the level of WTFery here is unbelievable and I am LIVING for it!
Unethical practices are common, even acceptable, in the world of business. The standard "For people to loise their licenses and be banned from jobs" is rather low.
Debi Thomas lost her medical license and doesn't seem to want to try to get it back. I don't see the other skaters reaching out to Debi during her times of trouble either.Where do you get this from? People lose licenses all the time and can no longer practice in the profession they trained for.
Debi Thomas lost her medical license and doesn't seem to want to try to get it back. I don't see the other skaters reaching out to Debi during her times of trouble either.
That said, it took about 5 minutes for her to once again court controversy with her television interview and her agent leaving because she didn't want to talk about the past, so her usual foot-in-mouth disease may trip her up yet again.