Rosenberg dumped Tonya in 93 because he couldn't deal with Jeff. I wish he would of simply got Jeff on a reality show like ice road truckers or a winter version of Survivor to keep him away from Tonya in the 93/94 season. Its not like Jeff had a job or anything so he would have been able to go on those shows quite easily.
UPDATED: OMFG . . . Adam Rippon, Tonya Harding and Mirai Nagasu are on the DWTS' all-athlete cast
- Thread starter bardtoob
- Start date
quartz
scratching at the light
- Messages
- 20,741
For so many people not liking Tonya, some of you sure do spend a lot of time obsessing why you don’t like Tonya. She’s annoying the crap out of you, she’s stupid, ignorant, whatever, and horrors! - she had to find another way to make a living (also known as money-making schemes 
) and never went to college, which apparently is another crime, blah blah 
Why waste your valuable time going on and on about someone you don’t even care about and if you aren’t even going to watch the show because she has tainted the whole thing, why give her so much more attention by continuing to yammer on about her?
) and never went to college, which apparently is another crime, blah blah Why waste your valuable time going on and on about someone you don’t even care about and if you aren’t even going to watch the show because she has tainted the whole thing, why give her so much more attention by continuing to yammer on about her?
Yazmeen
All we are saying, is give peace a chance
- Messages
- 5,845
Mmmm . . . speaking of that . . .
Don't you think it was unprofessional for an agent to reveal that he parted ways with his client because of the cash value terms she wanted in the contracts he sought for her? I thought this was strange. I have never heard of an agent publicly revealing the clients bargaining position (reserve price in $USD), particularly when one's agent is supposed to be one's closest business confidante.
(Gosh, as far as I can tell, Michelle Kwan was closer to Shep Goldberg than even her coaches.)
----------------------
ETA: Parting ways with Tonya BEFORE finding out the Oscar results was probably the biggest mistake of that agent's career
No, this was not related to any "cash value terms" within any contracts her agent had previously negotiated. It was never stated that Tonya set restrictions for interviews that would limit the types of questions she would be asked in any of her contracts. Once she was in the "I, Tonya" spotlight, she simply got PO'd after the fact at reporters asking her about the Kerrigan plot, and she then came up with a demand to her agent that they stop asking these types of questions or pay a $25,000 fine. As her agent put it, that's not how interviews work, and he had every right to publicly state that this was the reason he was dropping her as a client. No sane agent would have given in to her ridiculous demands. And how Tonya could believe or expect that she wouldn't be asked about "the incident" is beyond me, yet another sparkling example of her ignorance (or perhaps at best, wishful thinking).
Yazmeen
All we are saying, is give peace a chance
- Messages
- 5,845
For so many people not liking Tonya, some of you sure do spend a lot of time obsessing why you don’t like Tonya. She’s annoying the crap out of you, she’s stupid, ignorant, whatever, and horrors! - she had to find another way to make a living (also known as money-making schemes
Why waste your valuable time going on and on about someone you don’t even care about and if you aren’t even going to watch the show because she has tainted the whole thing, why give her so much more attention by continuing to yammer on about her?
I plan on watching for Adam and Mirai and Jennie. As for Tonya, hopefully this will the last of her current 15 minutes.
bardtoob
Well-Known Member
- Messages
- 14,694
I think:
- The agent was unprofessional revealing the reserve price.
- Tonya's demand was ridiculous.
- What should have happened was the agent should have let Tonya see for a couple weeks that they were going to get no business with that in the contract.
VGThuy
Well-Known Member
- Messages
- 41,182
For so many people not liking Tonya, some of you sure do spend a lot of time obsessing why you don’t like Tonya. She’s annoying the crap out of you, she’s stupid, ignorant, whatever, and horrors! - she had to find another way to make a living (also known as money-making schemes
Why waste your valuable time going on and on about someone you don’t even care about and if you aren’t even going to watch the show because she has tainted the whole thing, why give her so much more attention by continuing to yammer on about her?
Because how else will superior people get the opportunity to get on their high horse and openly laugh at people who have posted how they feel about it?
Sylvia
Flight #5342: I Will Remember You
- Messages
- 84,278
From what I've seen online, the ratings for DWTS season 25 last fall weren't great: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dancing_with_the_Stars_(U.S._season_25)#Ratings
The 7 other athletes and their pro partners are:
NBA legend Kareem Abdul-Jabbar with Lindsay Arnold
Former MLB star Johnny Damon with Emma Slater
Olympic luger Chris Mazdzer with Witney Carson
NFL star Josh Norman with Sharna Burgess
Olympic softball player Jennie Finch with Keo Motsepe
Olympic snowboarder Jamie Anderson with Artem Chigvintsev
University of Notre Dame women's basketball player Arike Ogunbowale with Gleb Savchenko
Notre Dame's Arike Ogunbowale must follow NCAA rules while on 'Dancing With the Stars': https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...e-dame-arike-ogunbowale-ncaa-rules/513985002/
This is why she was not in NYC on Friday and did not tape a "meet the cast" video with the others.
Yes please.
Last edited:
quartz
scratching at the light
- Messages
- 20,741
Some people are upset that Tonya is getting attention. So continuing to talk on and on about her, is giving her even MORE attention, which is the very thing they are upset about in the first place.
(And yes, that’s what I do around here, go around seeking opportunities to be all superior and high horsity, cuz that’s totally my schtick
)
Sasha is DIVINE
Well-Known Member
- Messages
- 868
It's somewhat difficult to separate Tonya the skater from Tonya the person. I absolutely love Tonya the skater. She is probably one of the most naturally talented figure skaters the US has ever produced. Her jumping and spinning ability were legendary. The sad thing is I think the sky could have been the limit for her but she was far too prone to distractions and excuses. And not working hard enough.
It's hard for me to be sympathetic to Tonya personally. I do believe she had knowledge of the plot and that showed horrible sportsmanship at the very least. Especially considering if she had just trained her ass off she would have easily beaten Kerrigan because IMO she was the better skater with more talent and ability. In any case, she has never taken responsibility for her part in the attack against Nancy. If she had spent just half of the time during her career on training and conditioning as she has playing the Blame Game in the subsequent years, she would have been a World and Olympic champion SMH. The way she sees life is just very flawed to me and I don't think that's ever going to change. It makes it hard to root for her.
But on the other hand, I will forever enjoy watching old performances of hers. And say what you want about Mama Lavona, but she sure did have talent as a costume maker. Tonya's dress for her short program that she wore in Munich was totally different cool and amazing!
It's hard for me to be sympathetic to Tonya personally. I do believe she had knowledge of the plot and that showed horrible sportsmanship at the very least. Especially considering if she had just trained her ass off she would have easily beaten Kerrigan because IMO she was the better skater with more talent and ability. In any case, she has never taken responsibility for her part in the attack against Nancy. If she had spent just half of the time during her career on training and conditioning as she has playing the Blame Game in the subsequent years, she would have been a World and Olympic champion SMH. The way she sees life is just very flawed to me and I don't think that's ever going to change. It makes it hard to root for her.
But on the other hand, I will forever enjoy watching old performances of hers. And say what you want about Mama Lavona, but she sure did have talent as a costume maker. Tonya's dress for her short program that she wore in Munich was totally different cool and amazing!
Aerobicidal
Shut that door.
- Messages
- 11,147
What? Do you mean to tell me you weren't watching Winter Survivor in the early-to-mid '90s?! It was actually, literally, totally must-see TV. Like MUST must see TV. The episode in which Tori Spelling got in a snowball fight with Meredith Baxter-Birney while the guy who played Urkel was fighting off arctic seals on this platform and suddenly the platform hit a glacier, and then Leo or Jack was drowning and the immunity idol was the actual Heart of the Ocean from the movie . . .
Or was that Celebrity Winter Survival which was closer to '99?
I get confused.
So is this officially a partial boycott? A partial official boycott? A partially official boycott? I won't be able to understand the world and its purpose until I know!
Erin
Banned Member
- Messages
- 10,470
I've seen this several times and am compelled to ask, what does it mean? Is it Hey? Is it a bizarre spelling of honey?
In any event, it's nonsensical.
Yazmeen
All we are saying, is give peace a chance
- Messages
- 5,845
I thoroughly enjoy the concept of you never knowing, dear.
And @Sasha is DIVINE said it very well. Tonya was indeed a talented skater, and it is difficult to separate her great skating attributes and performances from Tonya the person and all that came after the Kerrigan incident. Just imagined if Tonya could have put all that energy into really practicing, staying in shape, and working hard instead of the "blame game" as noted. She would likely have wiped the ice with Nancy and probably outskated Kristi most of the time, too.
Last edited:
bardtoob
Well-Known Member
- Messages
- 14,694
Why would you do that!
Tonya's artistic sensibilities are going to make so much mockable material
jlai
Question everything
- Messages
- 14,389
I guess if the show is not doing well, then perhaps the show is trying to drum up interest by courting controversy. eta: ANd they are succeeding
Last edited:
Leo and Jack were saved by Baywatch Babes Nicole Eggert and Ericka Eleniak. Florence Henderson was cooking pork chops and applesauce over the campire. Soleil Moon Frye and Raven Simone were competiting in the dance dance revolution challenge. Dawn Wells and Tina Louise were having a catfight over Gilligan.
Some people get cast on the show to play the role of the controversial contestant, the one who probably won't go far but might create some buzz in the early weeks. They're there to add variety to the cast and maybe cause some fireworks. Think of some of the past contestants. Paula Deen was cast after allegations she had used racial slurs and wanted her black employees to engage in Antebellum cosplay during her social events.
And thanks to the film, Tonya has gotten a lot of mainstream media attention this year. The reaction to her casting, that she's being discussed more than most of the others, probably confirms to the producers that she was a good choice.
Last edited:
AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)
Get it Amber 😝
- Messages
- 16,331
LOL, gay culture. Its gay for honey.
Started by the Queens and RuPaul on Drag Race.
I wish so much I could leave or record a sound byte here. Ive been told I do it better than anyone hennnnneyyyyyyyy.
I agree with this. Perhaps if her husband was more supportive and no beating the holy hell out of her she could have stayed in shape and performed better. Personally, I think she should have went the Gracie Gold route and took some time off to “heal thyself” but that sort of thing wasn’t done back then and carried a very large stigma.
DimaToe
Retired by Frank Carroll
- Messages
- 5,534
Whatever my own opinions are it is never my goal to truly offend any other posters so I apologize to @Japanfan and @VIETgrlTerifa. The example I gave is way AWOL but what I am trying to make others understand is that whether it be outrage or defense, Whatever attention is given to Harding is all good for her. I’m not from that generation so I might not fully grasp the impact of her actions, but just wanted to make my own( rum influenced at the moment) opinion heard. Although like I was told once. “Opinions are like belly buttons, everyone has one and some of them are smelly” 
skateboy
Well-Known Member
- Messages
- 8,495
If I could turn back time, I would of waited until after96 to split the winter and summer Olympics. Nancy would have turned pro. Tonya really should of been the 92 Olympic bronze medalist, and Surya should of placed over Nancy there as well. The 3 medalists would of definitely turned pro. I don't think Tonya would of made it to 96, but she could still of won the 93 and 94 titles since Kwan and Bobek were fairly new to the senior ranks, and maybe a world title before turning pro. World Pros, Us Open (the televised one with a mix of known and unknown pros), World Challenge, and the pro-ams would still exist. Jerry wouldn't be interested in Nancy since the next Olympics would of been too far away and Kathy Solomon would have got to keep her husband, and their kids would have had their dad full-time. Where is Marty McFly's time machine when you need it?
alchemy void
Post-its for the win.
- Messages
- 27,291
This thread though. What a trainwreck.
I think the fact that Tonya is literally all over FSU tells you everything you need to know about why ABC selected her for Dancing with the Stars.
Aerobicidal
Shut that door.
- Messages
- 11,147
This reminds me of something very serious, though. I owe all of you an apology.
This thread though. What a trainwreck.
I think the fact that Tonya is literally all over FSU tells you everything you need to know about why ABC selected her for Dancing with the Stars.
On page 11 of the thread, I wrote, "I'm hoping Tonya wins DWTS and then winds up on . . . Top Chef Latino."
There isn't actually a Top Chef Latino. It's Masterchef Latino. I apologize for any tragic implications my error may have caused.
Don't whack me, bros (and sisses, and sibs).
quartz
scratching at the light
- Messages
- 20,741
She’s had 7 months non-stop publicity just on this board alone.
This thread though. What a trainwreck.
I think the fact that Tonya is literally all over FSU tells you everything you need to know about why ABC selected her for Dancing with the Stars.
Japanfan
Well-Known Member
- Messages
- 25,606
But did Tonya really believe in her ability to be the best?
Abuse damages a person at the core, hence damages a person's self-esteem. I'm sure Tonya had some people telling her she could be the best, but it would be hard to really believe it when one is being beat up by one's husband and has been abused by one's mother her entire life. People internalize abuse and feel they are to blame. Even if the person knows he/she is not, it's hard not to feel that way.
Tonya had a bravado and swagger about her, but like her or hate her, behind this you can be sure there is/was a world of hurt. She may be dealing with it better now than she did when she was young, and may have gone through therapy - IDK.
If the film and DWTS are helping her to further put it behind her, I think that's a good thing, especially given that she's raising a child.
EDA: Tonya has always struck me as quite defensive. The abuse may have also resulted in her being very defensive, which may be why she may not have expressed as much 'remorse' as people see fitting. It's hard to feel remorse at the same time that one feels victimized.
Last edited:
alchemy void
Post-its for the win.
- Messages
- 27,291
My reaction to this revelation:
https://youtu.be/s9fnJ2eiGN4
Everything was going so well here until your Top Chef Latino madness. You should of researched better.
Yes! I mean I'm kind of....stunned
that hardcore skating fans still care so much about it. I kind of thought FSU might be a little "above" tonya/nancy drama.
Erin
Banned Member
- Messages
- 10,470
What about hennnneeyys? Can they whack you?
