UPDATED/CONFIRMED: Evgenia Medvedeva leaving Tutberidze for Orser

[manhn]

Where is people getting the idea that Orser refuses to coach current or former World Champs? I mean, if Patrick came to him, Orser would likely decline because of Javi and Yuzu, but if they were not there, Brian would say No? If Carolina came to him when she came back, he would say No?

 

[alchemy void]

DRAMA!!!!!!!

Eteri showing the receipts to the media? Med liking that "Russian fed mess" tweet? Oh hell yes.

Between this mess, and Tonya 24/7, there has been no shortage of intrigue this off-season.

I'm still hoping she does in fact go to Orser, but Tsareva will be her "coach" at Sambo 70. #delsuonal

 

[NAOTMAA]

I'm sure a Med./Orser partnership will be very successful but I kind of wish she would have stayed in Russia and pick a Russian coach. Bring someone new to greater prominence since at the moment the only two ladies coaches who have any power is Eteri and Buianova.

Yulia showed a lot of improvement under Alexei Urmanov, too bad she couldn't go to him. But I suppose Orser has enough international clout to offset any possible domestic mess within Russia that someone like Urmanov, or any other Russian coach, couldn't match. Either way both are tireless hard workers so I look forward to see how Brian can help her expand artistically while helping her smooth the technical issues (the 2A needs a lot of help).

 

[hanca]

It’s not that bad, yet. When Tutberidze decides that she wants to tell us ‘the whole truth, and nothing but the truth’, the interview will get even better. Her past interviews about Lipnitskaya, Voronov and Pitkeev... I think we still have plenty to look forward. Tutberidze won’t keep her feelings in; she probably believes that it is unhealthy to keep her feelings in - shared pain is a half pain, so soon we will get an interview on her ‘insight’ into Medvedeva’s soul and brain, and possibly also adding complaints about Medvedeva’s relationship with her mother (there were complaints about Lipnitskaya’s relationship with her mother and Voronov’s relationship with his mother) and anything else private that Tutberidze will decide to share.

 

[Vagabond]

I think we still have plenty to look forward. Tutberidze won’t keep her feelings in; she probably believes that it is unhealthy to keep her feelings in - shared pain is a half pain, so soon we will get an interview on her ‘insight’ into Medvedeva’s soul and brain, and possibly also adding complaints about Medvedeva’s relationship with her mother (there were complaints about Lipnitskaya’s relationship with her mother and Voronov’s relationship with his mother) and anything else private that Tutberidze will decide to share.

Such as Diana Davis' relationship with her mother?

 

[ChiquitaBanana]

Exactly. If she doesn't win in Russia, she won't win for any other country since she'd still be competing against the Russians. Med pushed Lip and Rad out just like Zagitiva pushed her out and another skater will push her out. It's just what it is in Russian ladies

Kaetlyn Osmond did not win in Russia and still won Worlds, as few Japanese ladies are capable of...

 

[Meoima]

It's not necessarily drama for Brian. If Eteri chooses to act like a petulant junior high girl, that's on her. He's not even in the same country as her. All he's doing is taking on a new student, on his turf.

Also, Orser does benefit from taking in Evgenia. He might be curious about how the Russian skating style is developed. And Evgenia is the living evidence of the Russian style. He might even gain some knowledge on the Russian coaching from Evgenia who has studied with Russian coaches her whole life. Not too bad.

 

[dinakt]

I am 100% Team Medvedeva in this.
A coach has many more chances at personal success than an athlete, and Eteri preemptively going on TV airing her grievances fits into Eteri's pattern of not parting gracefully. Her students so far has not been able to continue after leaving her. And I wish Evgenia NOT to be a part of a pattern, but to have a successful career for as long as she wants to, and as long as her body allows. Sending her healing wishes, and I fully realize even with Orser things will not be easy for her.

 

[alexikeguchi]

I'm envisioning something like a First Wives Club for the trail of skaters Eteri leaves in her wake. I think that would get huge ratings! And be cathartic for the athletes.

 

[barbarafan]

I am 100% Team Medvedeva in this.
A coach has many more chances at personal success than an athlete, and Eteri preemptively going on TV airing her grievances fits into Eteri's pattern of not parting gracefully. Her students so far has not been able to continue after leaving her. And I wish Evgenia NOT to be a part of a pattern, but have a successful career for as long as she wants to, and as long as her body allows. Sending her healing wishes, and I fully realize even with Orser things will not be easy for her.

It will not be easy but getting away from the Hunger Games will help heal her soul. She will be part of team who teach each student as an individual with different needs and strengths. If she decides later on in life to coach or run a skating school it will give her a completely diff. idea of training situations to compare.

 

[barbarafan]

I'm envisioning something like a First Wives Club for the trail of skaters Eteri leaves in her wake. I think that would get huge ratings! And be cathartic for the athletes.

Maybe they can collaborate on a book about Eteri's teaching methods and diets. They can each write a chapter. Polina t. is leaving as well...Not sure where she is going though.

 

[Foolhardy Ham Lint]

Corrected that for you.

Thanks, Grammarly.

 

[barbarafan]

Also, Orser does benefit from taking in Evgenia. He might be curious about how the Russian skating style is developed. And Evgenia is the living evidence of the Russian style. He might even gain some knowledge on the Russian coaching from Evgenia who has studied with Russian coaches her whole life. Not too bad.

For sure...like he will learn what not to do.

 

[Foolhardy Ham Lint]

Really people? Orser is the best choice on paper for Janny. He’s coached 2 of the most popular skaters that this sport has had as of late (Yuna and Yuzuru) so he more than anyone has the experience to deal with the that comes with taking on such a big name skater.

Word on the street is that Mama Tursynbaeva doesn't like to share.

 

[DimaToe]

Word on the street is that Mama Tursynbaeva doesn't like to share.

Well it is not like Elizabet is winning medals non-stop Mama Tursynbaeva comes across as very extra and I doubt Orser and CO. are accepting skaters based on what she wants or doesn’t want.

 

[rfisher]

Some of you are seriously amusing.

DRAMA!!!!!!!

Eteri showing the receipts to the media? Med liking that "Russian fed mess" tweet? Oh hell yes.

Between this mess, and Tonya 24/7, there has been no shortage of intrigue this off-season.

I'm still hoping she does in fact go to Orser, but Tsareva will be her "coach" at Sambo 70. #delsuonal

Tsareva FTW!

 

[barbarafan]

If Medvedeva world her cards well having a “homewo


Well it is not like Elizabet is winning medals non-stop Mama Tursynbaeva comes across as very extra and I doubt Orser and CO. Are accepting skaters based in what she wants or doesn’t want.

Elizabet is used to skating with Med as she trains in Eteri's group when she is in Russia. Both girls are very strong willed and will probably do their own thing. Neither are robots.

 

[kwanfan1818]

Aside from what Tutberidze said or revealed publicly, she and her facilities and coaches and therapists and off-ice people are paid or subsidized, correct? If so, her loyalty should not be to Medvedeva or any given skater, but to winning medals for Russia. And since any skater is one rut away from debilitating injury, the more insurance, the better, from the perspective of what she's hired to do.

 

[screech]

I'm envisioning something like a First Wives Club for the trail of skaters Eteri leaves in her wake. I think that would get huge ratings! And be cathartic for the athletes.

Petition for Medvedeva to skate to this?

 

[Aerobicidal]

Right now there are exactly 666 threads in GSD.

I'm picturing Eteri cackling maniacally as she sacrifices all possible souls for quads, cosmetic enhancements, and REVENGE on Janny in years to come.

 

[barbarafan]

Petition for Medvedeva to skate to this?

Ha Ha....I think she would fit in nicely in Canada. Just Saying

 

[Willin]

It will not be easy but getting away from the Hunger Games will help heal her soul. She will be part of team who teach each student as an individual with different needs and strengths. If she decides later on in life to coach or run a skating school it will give her a completely diff. idea of training situations to compare.

Not to mention she'll learn much better nutrition. While anorexia is a problem in skating no matter what country, I'm sure Orser will be able to point her to a dietitian that can get her on a diet optimal for athletes. The diet Eteri likes (aka minimal food) promotes fractures and lessens muscle strength. I can only imagine what Medvedeva can do with more muscle. Maybe Meagan Duhamel can get her in on that training diet she has.

 

[dinakt]

Aside from what Tutberidze said or revealed publicly, she and her facilities and coaches and therapists and off-ice people are paid or subsidized, correct? If so, her loyalty should not be to Medvedeva or any given skater, but to winning medals for Russia. And since any skater is one rut away from debilitating injury, the more insurance, the better, from the perspective of what she's hired to do.

That's correct, and that's what Eteri is doing, very successfully.
Medvedeva repaid for her country's support by carrying Russian Ladies' skating for two years, and I am sure Eteri has been aptly rewarded, as well. Going on a main TV channel revealing private interactions with a pupil, even before the announcement of a switch, is an abuse of power in my eyes.

 

[Meoima]

Right now there are exactly 666 threads in GSD.

I'm picturing Eteri cackling maniacally as she sacrifices all possible souls for quads, cosmetic enhancements, and REVENGE on Janny in years to come.

I am waiting for an exclusive interview from you on all this bomb. lol

 

[ChiquitaBanana]

Okay, so now we learn there was a desire from skater A (Evgenia) to keep skater B (Alina) safely and conveniently tucked away in juniors so that skater A (Evgenia) could go on to win unopposed (because the other ladies didn’t count, remember) at the Olympics, etc.?! Oy!

Instead, why not (initially) approach a competition (or season) by gracefully committing to accept winning or losing based on the results of the competition itself?! Not by the desired or hopeful manipulation of any competition or season via holding back or keeping another skater/rival at the junior level. And, then, pressing for answers (after the fact) from a (soon to be former) coach to a ridiculous suggestion/request and question in the first place. Sorry, folks, but sheesh!

I'm glad Eteri & Co. resisted doing that to Alina, or any skater for that matter, on behalf of one skater's wish and desire for such an action, in this case, Evgenia, supposedly.

BTW, don’t get any cute ideas from all of this, USFS!!

I get your point, from a fan point of view. That is said, there are sociologic laws of skating schools. A coach can only have a x number of top skaters for many reasons :
1. The more the skater are, the less they each get attention.
2.Your coach should be your best manager, the one promotting you to the top. That’s why some coaches will turn some offers off so they keep working on their A project.

I understand Med wondering why her party pooper would come from her home house...

 

[Aerobicidal]

I am waiting for an exclusive interview from you on all this bomb. lol

It's already posted in the trash can.

 

[Darkverse]

That doesn't make sense, as Zagitova was a senior at the Olympics.

Evgenia came off the ice and said to Eteri "why couldn't you have kept Alina in juniors a year longer?" It was not a request. Yeah, it might have been childish, but the girl was hysterical after losing the OGM. Of course, we only have Eteri's words that it actually ever happened.

 

[lala]

Eteri is her old classic self - blaming anyone apart from herself. Bravo!

Med "liked" this tweet. I cannot. lol

https://twitter.com/chiburahakkai/status/992480592112504835

What a nice thing from Evgenia! Evgeni was with Eteri for 11 years . Eteri really deserves it...

 

[Japanfan]

Kaetlyn Osmond did not win in Russia and still won Worlds, as few Japanese ladies are capable of...

The stars just lined up for Kaetlyn at Worlds. Don't know that she'll be able to repeat that next season, but even so, she has nothing left to prove. IMO.

 

[Meoima]

What a nice thing from Evgenia! Evgeni was with Eteri for 11 years . Eteri really deserves it...

So Evgenia deserves to be trashed on national tivi after 11 years together with her coach? Also, it goes both ways, yes Eteri brought Evgenia to fame but Evgenia's success also brought Eteri to fame. While Evgenia has not gone off on Eteri anywhere, Eteri has thrown dirt first. Is that expected from a 44-year-old woman?