U.S. Ladies [#30]: Cover Girls

[Coco]

They need to send at least 2 skaters so the alternate is in town and ready to go until the last possible minute.

 

[SorrySkater]

A question. Is Alysa age eligible for seniors yet? If not, is she even eligible for Nebelhorn? For some reason I thought there was an issue with the age cutoff.

 

[Sylvia]

A question. Is Alysa age eligible for seniors yet? If not, is she even eligible for Nebelhorn?

Yes, Alysa is ISU senior age-eligible in 2021-22 (she will turn 16 in August).

Glad to see she had the chance to visit Venice: https://www.instagram.com/p/CQWpKKRrCpB/

 

[MCsAngel2]

A question. Is Alysa age eligible for seniors yet? If not, is she even eligible for Nebelhorn? For some reason I thought there was an issue with the age cutoff.

Yes, this will be the first season she's eligible for international senior competition.

 

[ptvvibezz]

Bradie Tennell and Audrey Shin aren't on the Peggy Flemming Trophy starting list anymore, Rena Ikenishi has been added along with a men's skater named Ben Jalovick.

 

[Sylvia]

For those who'd like more info about Thorngren's FS performance yesterday and/or watch without music (program was choreographed by Benoit Richaud)

You can watch Lindsay's Colonial Open FS performance (scored 123.27) WITH audio -- music from The Queen's Gambit OST -- now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8gkFHUBP00
(Note: Her final 3Lo didn't count because it was her 3rd repeated triple.)

 

[sk9tingfan]

You can watch Lindsay's Colonial Open FS performance (scored 123.27) WITH audio -- music from The Queen's Gambit OST -- now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8gkFHUBP00

She looks great for so early in the season! Great program!

 

[ЭPiKUilyam]

They need to send at least 2 skaters so the alternate is in town and ready to go until the last possible minute.

I would also take no chances and have them fly on different flights just in case there is a CV19 infected passenger on board.

 

[ptvvibezz]

Karen Chen, Audrey Shin, Pooja Kalyan, and Paige Rydberg are competing at the Broadmoor Open next Tuesday and Wednesday.

 

[Sylvia]

Initial Broadmoor Open info is posted here (thanks @haribobo!): https://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/th...-qualifying-competitions.108356/#post-6013942
If there is a free livestream (not yet confirmed), I will start a separate competition thread in the Kiss & Cry section.

ISP skaters listed to compete in Junior Ladies: Isabeau Levito, Clare Seo, Mia Kalin

 

[annie720]

Initial Broadmoor Open info is posted here (thanks @haribobo!): https://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/th...-qualifying-competitions.108356/#post-6013942
If there is a free livestream (not yet confirmed), I will start a separate competition thread in the Kiss & Cry section.

ISP skaters listed to compete in Junior Ladies: Isabeau Levito, Clare Seo, Mia Kalin

I see from the website that spectators will be allowed at Broadmoor. hmmmm.

 

[flyingsit]

I wish they had the junior/senior events at Broadmoor on the weekend...I'd drive down!

 

[Tavi]

I see from the website that spectators will be allowed at Broadmoor. hmmmm.

Oh wow that’s actually a change because it previously said only competitors etc. Sadly I’ll be out of town but if you go would love to hear your report!

 

[annie720]

Oh wow that’s actually a change because it previously said only competitors etc. Sadly I’ll be out of town but if you go would love to hear your report!

This is stated in the C-19 requirements & procedures. I assume this means outsider-spectators are allowed but I would definitely get more info before trying to go.

There will be spectators allowed at this Event. No Chaperones or spectators will be admitted during Practice Ice

 

[Debbie S]

This is stated in the C-19 requirements & procedures. I assume this means outsider-spectators are allowed but I would definitely get more info before trying to go.

The C19 protocols are changing literally by the week. Initially, the guidelines were that comps could allow a limited number of spectators (at a time when most rinks didn't allow it) but everyone had to be escorted out at the end of each event, so no hanging around all day. Now USFS and rinks are getting more flexible with local gov'ts lifting restrictions. From what I can tell from social media posts from Adult Nats, spectators are allowed and masking still in effect. Mask rules are being relaxed for those who are vaccinated starting July 1 and clubs hosting upcoming comps have been told to expect updated protocols from USFS next week.

 

[Tavi]

This is stated in the C-19 requirements & procedures. I assume this means outsider-spectators are allowed but I would definitely get more info before trying to go.

I had a hard time finding info and may have missed this - hope you can go.

 

[ptvvibezz]

Lindsay Thorngren and Ting Cui competed at the White Rose Invitational this past Sunday. They both only skated their free skate. Lindsay received a 129.85 with a TES of 75.19 and a PCS of 54.66. Ting received a 93.67 with a TES of 42.81 and a PCS of 51.86 with one deduction.

 

[Sylvia]

Lindsay Thorngren and Ting Cui competed at the White Rose Invitational this past Sunday. They both only skated their free skate. Lindsay received a 129.85 with a TES of 75.19 and a PCS of 54.66. Ting received a 93.67 with a TES of 42.81 and a PCS of 51.86 with one deduction.

I've reposted the link to the White Rose Inv. results/scores in the U.S. Club Competitions thread in Kiss & Cry. This was a small, one day club comp. in York, PA (protocols were not posted publicly on the club's website) and, IMO, a low-key way for Ting to ease back into competition.

Emily Zhang was 2nd in the Senior FS with 103.52 (49.58 TES/54.94 PCS) - UPenn ‘25 is listed on her Instagram profile page.

ETA: 75.19 is a very good TES for Thorngren in June! Her FS scores at the Colonial Open were 123.27 [63.26 TES/60.01 PCS].

 

[Sylvia]

Midnight Blues and Other Musings -- a new blog & podcast (available on Spotify) -- conversed recently with Ting Cui for just under one hour - audio on YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-W1UXf4uy0
Transcript is here:

Interview with Ting Cui

[Trigger Warning: This interview contains mentions of eating disorders and engages in conversations about injuries and the psychological impacts they have on one's psyche.]Ting has had an illustrious junior career, receiving the bronze medal at the Junior World Championships in 2019, and...

midnightbluesandot.wixsite.com

Excerpts:

I just did my very first competition in two years last weekend, at White Rose Invitational. It was so exciting just to be out there and I wasn't as nervous as I thought I would be. I definitely wasn’t ready for the competition but I needed to get myself out there. It went like how it has been going in training. Not perfect but it was how I had been training so I can’t really be upset or anything over that. I’m just quite not there yet but getting through it was the most important thing. It was a one day competition, I did my long program and the best part was when I stepped onto the ice after they called my name, I still remembered that feeling of when it’s my turn to compete, I have the ice all to myself. There’s a certain quiet around the rink and in my mind I had been visualizing this moment in the months prior to the competition because I couldn't imagine myself competing at all and just being alone for four minutes and having it feel familiar was really amazing. I had thought I had forgotten what that was all about. To stay calm and get through that full program was a win for me.

I’m excited to see what I can do for the rest of the season. It’s really just been a new chapter in my skating. With what you just said with judgement you feel when you're trying to come back after an injury, it’s funny you mention that because i had talked to another skater about it this week. It depends how big the mental block is but at times you won’t even want to come to the rink because you’re so scared of what people will think of you. In my case I went from getting bronze at junior worlds to not being able to do a single axel. Coming back the second time from injury, in my mind people were expecting the best version of me that i had ever skated and this was so far from it. The disappointment I had anticipated that I expected would come from them would build on top of my own. I did not need to put myself through that mentally! Getting over that was huge. I still have that mental block at times but I'm skating for myself and realizing that this is what I can do now. And so I’m going to hone it. I’m not going to be in this position forever.

 

[Vagabond]

That was quite the candid interview. I am astonished by what she said about her parents. Not by the substance, but that she said it in an interview. Good for her.

 

[Jammers]

That was quite the candid interview. I am astonished by what she said about her parents. Not by the substance, but that she said it in an interview. Good for her.

What did she say about her parents?

 

[Sylvia]

What did she say about her parents?

You can click on the podcast transcript link I provided in post #439 and read for yourself.

 

[ЭPiKUilyam]

That was quite the candid interview. I am astonished by what she said about her parents. Not by the substance, but that she said it in an interview. Good for her.

What did she say about her parents?

You can click on the podcast transcript link I provided in post #439 and read for yourself.

This?
" My parents were very supportive, but Asian culture, they’re not great with mental health related issues. So I would try to talk to them and they would help in the way that they thought they should but in China, these issues are not really a thing that’s talked about."


Or This?
"Ting: I was a mess leading up to that. I was calling everyone, my best friends, my parents, and coaches, crying to them. Like for the entire week leading up to it! And the Tuesday that week leading up to the competition, I had such a bad practice session, like it was absolutely awful just because I was a nervous wreck about it. Natalia is a saint for dealing with it all. When I was telling everyone how nervous I was, especially my parents, they were like, what are you competing at? Are you going to worlds or something? Why are you so nervous?"

I hope that helps. It's kind of obnoxious when you ask a question and someone just tells you to go look it up or go research it yourself. I hope I could at least be helpful and that I answered your question. I at least TRIED to be helpful and was courteous enough to slog through that entire interview to provide you an answer, because I was wondering the same thing. But wouldn't it have been nicer and easier if someone who knew the answer to your question would have just ANSWERED the damn question?

Edited to add that I learned a new word: Orthorexia, Orthorexia nervosa. Which is a proposed mental disorder involving a pre-occupation of only eating healthy foods. I used to be a professor, so I like to learn things and well, TEACH. I'm not that teacher who tells everyone to just go look something up. Those people are failures as teachers, in my opinion.

 

[Vagabond]

I hope that helps. It's kind of obnoxious when you ask a question and someone just tells you to go look it up or go research it yourself. I hope I could at least be helpful and that I answered your question. I at least TRIED to be helpful and was courteous enough to slog through that entire interview to provide you an answer, because I was wondering the same thing. But wouldn't it have been nicer and easier if someone who knew the answer to your question would have just ANSWERED the damn question?

Edited to add that I learned a new word: Orthorexia, Orthorexia nervosa. Which is a proposed mental disorder involving a pre-occupation of only eating healthy foods. I used to be a professor, so I like to learn things and well, TEACH. I'm not that teacher who tells everyone to just go look something up. Those people are failures as teachers, in my opinion.

IMHO, teaching is most effective when it enables people to look things up and think for themselves rather than spoon-feeding them. It's least effective when it is nothing more than other people obnoxious for being effective teachers. YMMV.

 

[ЭPiKUilyam]

IMHO, teaching is most effective when it enables people to look things up and think for themselves rather than spoon-feeding them. It's least effective when it is nothing more than other people obnoxious for being effective teachers. YMMV.

Well, it's obnoxious for someone to call an effective teacher obnoxious because he finds it obnoxious when someone withholds a simple answer/explanation of something that's not even a critical piece of information. We can go in circles with this, Vag.

Edited to Add: "IMHO" so it sounds less obnoxious.

 

[VGThuy]

Ting Cui seems to have joined the group of skaters who have had issues with disordered eating who have been helped by Linichuk. I heard stories in the past where she wasn’t always kind to her skaters (back in the 90s during Russia’s heyday in ice dance) but it seems with older age she has become sort the coach I hear skaters talk about when it comes to providing healthy and truly supportive training environments. Even on her IG, her past skaters seem to love her and she’s always sharing pics of her students past and present with a sense of pride.

 

[ЭPiKUilyam]

Ting Cui seems to have joined the group of skaters who have had issues with disordered eating who have been helped by Linichuk. I heard stories in the past where she wasn’t always kind to her skaters (back in the 90s during Russia’s heyday in ice dance) but it seems with older age she has become sort the coach I hear skaters talk about when it comes to providing healthy and truly supportive training environments. Even on her IG, her past skaters seem to love her and she’s always sharing pics of her students past and present with a sense of pride.

That is really nice to hear. She's the opposite of TAT, in other words. Weren't they mortal enemies back in the day? I can see why.

 

[Vagabond]

Well, it's obnoxious for someone to call an effective teacher obnoxious because he finds it obnoxious when someone withholds a simple answer/explanation of something that's not even a critical piece of information. We can go in circles with this, Vag.

The thing is, you used the term "obnoxious" in connection with @Sylvia of all people.

Does not compute!

 

[ЭPiKUilyam]

The thing is, you used the term "obnoxious" in connection with @Sylvia of all people.

Does not compute!

Well, in that particularly instance I felt that was an obnoxious response to a simple question. Maybe this Sylvia person is not an obnoxious person in real life, so I apologize if she is the best person on the planet. I don't know her. But again, maybe Sylvia is like me who will possibly listen to that criticism and see if she agrees/disagrees and changes herself accordingly. Maybe she'll eyeroll like I do when people here call me racist, homophobic, transphobic, xenophobic, hates women, hates men, whatever your pleasure. Alrighty then. I'm happy for her.

 

[clairecloutier]

No one on this board is obligated to answer anyone else’s question. Any participation is on a completely voluntary basis. Someone provided a link that could answer a question (which she did not have to do), yet she is then chastised for not doing enough?! LOL.