The Dance Hall 6: We're All Off Our Rockers 2018-2019

[Peepsquick]

KalSpod are nothing to sneeze at imo ... just saying ... they can dance!

 

[starrynight]

Weaver/Poje have ranked in the top 5 for eight consecutive Worlds. The only other team who has done that since ice dance became Olympic eligible is Bestemianova/Bukin. If they can get in the top 5 at this year’s Worlds they will then have top 5 for 9 years running and will pass B/B and will be the most consistent ice dance team in about 30 years in respect of results at Worlds.

Just a stat worth mentioning when looking at W/Ps career as a whole and where their legacy in the sport sits. They certainly haven’t always won everything, but they’ve stuck around the top of the field for a long time.

 

[Bigbird]

Weaver/Poje have ranked in the top 5 for eight consecutive Worlds. The only other team who has done that since ice dance became Olympic eligible is Bestemianova/Bukin. If they can get in the top 5 at this year’s Worlds they will then have top 5 for 9 years running and will pass B/B and will be the most consistent ice dance team in about 30 years in respect of results at Worlds.

Just a stat worth mentioning when looking at W/Ps career as a whole and where their legacy in the sport sits. They certainly haven’t always won everything, but they’ve stuck around the top of the field for a long time.

If only their FD this year wasn't so meh.....They played it so safe and they're capable of so much more.

 

[escaflowne9282]

I wonder how huge their score will be if they get the TR called and skate clean

Don't tempt the skategods!

 

[Bigbird]

I wonder how huge their score will be if they get the TR called and skate clean

Really hun, they're in Minsk. We better hope and pray they are perfect because mark my words a Russian couple could even be in first if they so much as wobble on ANYTHING!! This the only source of my nerves. In a neutral zone like worlds, we know the skating will do the talking but Russian politricks is real. I'm going to say a special little prayer for them when I go to sleep. Good night!

 

[sharsk8s]

Really hun, they're in Minsk. We better hope and pray they are perfect because mark my words a Russian couple could even be in first if they so much as wobble on ANYTHING!! This the only source of my nerves. In a neutral zone like worlds, we know the skating will do the talking but Russian politricks is real. I'm going to say a special little prayer for them when I go to sleep. Good night!

I would feel the same but in the pairs the french did EXTREMELY well (maybe even a bit over-scored in the long). The skating world will freak if they are not in first unless they have a disaster skate.

 

[firstflight]

Who was it earlier saying that the Spanish teams couldn't get away from each other?

You can never count on getting away from anyone in ice dance. Just don't burn your bridges in this discipline. The world is much too small.

It was me. And even Diaz just pointed it out himself with regard to the RD draw.

 

[sharsk8s]

It was me. And even Diaz just pointed it out himself with regard to the RD draw.

Do the two spanish teams have a good relationship? I know Diaz and Hurtado used to be a couple but split, does anyone know why?

 

[Tak]

Do the two spanish teams have a good relationship? I know Diaz and Hurtado used to be a couple but split, does anyone know why?

I only know what I read on these boards at the time, so I don't know how true it is, but apparently, she didn't like his work ethic. She wanted a partner who would work harder.

 

[sharsk8s]

I only know what I read on these boards at the time, so I don't know how true it is, but apparently, she didn't like his work ethic. She wanted a partner who would work harder.

It must be a bit odd for them constantly being put up against each other. From instagram it seems like they are friendlyish but that might be totally wrong.

 

[Bigbird]

I only know what I read on these boards at the time, so I don't know how true it is, but apparently, she didn't like his work ethic. She wanted a partner who would work harder.

Despite all her finger pointing, to this day, IMHO, she always looked better with Adria. I will always re-watch their Picasso and Paso Doble. Kiril has his positive qualities but I just find him way too uptight and wooden and with all her superior work ethic she still struggles with her twizzles, lifts and choreography at times. On a positive note though she makes a point of being nice however their last blowout fight was epic. I wonder if the video is still on YT. Let me go find that....

 

[sharsk8s]

They had a blowout fight?!?!

 

[supergirl573]

They had a blowout fight?!?!

I think it was it was at summer competition or Senior B back in 2015, maybe ACI or something. They had a major fight in the Kiss n Cry and then they dropped out of the competition.

 

[Bigbird]

I think it was it was at summer competition or Senior B back in 2015, maybe ACI or something. They had a major fight in the Kiss n Cry and then they dropped out of the competition.

She is a lovely girl but they just did not get along, their working styles were just too different. And that contributed to significant tensions between the two. Of all four though I just think he's the yummiest.

 

[sharsk8s]

I haven't seen a single pair get a positive GOE on the TR yet

 

[Bigbird]

First half of the season and second half are two completely different alternate universes. Besides the top 10 hasn't skated yet, right?

 

[Shayii]

Nikita is useless and just when I was getting there into S/K.

 

[Bigbird]

Nikita is useless and just when I was getting there into S/K.

Forget that, why did P/C only get 84 and change? Come on judges!!!

 

[starrynight]

Forget that, why did P/C only get 84 and change? Come on judges!!!

They broke the world record with two level 2s and a level 3 on the lady’s twizzles and the 8th ranked base value - I think the judges were more than in their corner with GOE and PCS.

 

[Bigbird]

They broke the world record with two level 2s and a level 3 on the lady’s twizzles and the 8th ranked base value - I think the judges were more than in their corner with GOE and PCS.

They broke the world record with two level 2s and a level 3 on the lady’s twizzles and the 8th ranked base value - I think the judges were more than in their corner with GOE and PCS.

Well if you put it that way. But were S/B that good? Or was it the levels working in their favour?

 

[MarieM]

Dostani. That man is all behind it. Let me tell you he should be banned from ever judging or sitting on any panel. His bias is as obvious as before, even it's worse because we all know it.

 

[sharsk8s]

http://www.isuresults.com/results/season1819/ec2019/ec2019_IceDance_RD_Scores.pdf
I think dostani the tech caller who apparently hates them was not a fan. Those twizzles were on point. I agree with the L2 for the TR bc they do the first pattern at an odd point in the music. No clue why they got a L2 midline.

 

[annie_mg]

http://www.isuresults.com/results/season1819/ec2019/ec2019_IceDance_RD_Scores.pdf
I think dostani the tech caller who apparently hates them was not a fan. Those twizzles were on point. I agree with the L2 for the TR bc they do the first pattern at an odd point in the music. No clue why they got a L2 midline.

So the L2 for the TR is because of the timing? Sorry, just trying to understand why. I also think that with online streaming the music + image aren't always well synchronised (by a split second, but still), and it's so difficult to tell whether couples are on the beat!

 

[sharsk8s]

So the L2 for the TR is because of the timing? Sorry, just trying to understand why. I also think that with online streaming the music + image aren't always well synchronised (by a split second, but still), and it's so difficult to tell whether couples are on the beat!

They got one timing call plus I think their struggle with the timing throws them off a bit overall. It is better than IdF so hopefully they can continue to improve.

 

[MarieM]

http://www.isuresults.com/results/season1819/ec2019/ec2019_IceDance_RD_Scores.pdf
I think dostani the tech caller who apparently hates them was not a fan. Those twizzles were on point. I agree with the L2 for the TR bc they do the first pattern at an odd point in the music. No clue why they got a L2 midline.

DOSTANI. That all there is to know about that. He'll never be fair to teams he doesn't like. He'll always push for the teams HE favors, or their coach as was the case with Igor's team before, Zhulin's team now.
That man has to be banned at one point or another, he's the most corrupt tech specialist on the roaster. ISU should be ashamed to apoint him to any big comp.

 

[starrynight]

Well if you put it that way. But were S/B that good? Or was it the levels working in their favour?

Levels don't really work in anyone's favour unless it's dead close between the teams. Here, P/C's level 2 step sequence outscored Stepanova/Bukin's level 3 step sequence anyway.

Stepanova/Bukin had a higher base value by a modest margin, but their TES was still 2 points less once GOE was factored in. They were within a point of each other with PCS.

The levels have been WAY worse on the tango romantica at other competitions. There's not too many base levels on the score sheet compared to other competitions this season. Only 3 teams got a base level. Which is something given how many base levels were handed out on the grand prix. P/C's tango levels are actually higher than they were at Internationaux de France.

The only advice I can give is that when a team you like gets a level 4 on the tango romantica, celebrate - because it may not necessarily happen again because the patten is notoriously difficult. Literally as your favourite team goes into the pattern, hold your breath, cover your eyes and wait to see the TES tracker LOL.

If people want to take issue with P/C not being more in the lead, I'd say look to PCS more than levels. Although back under the old judging system, the rankings probably would have been different with the levels and there could have been a big upset here.

FYI Stepanova/Bukin are coached by Alexander Svnin and Irina Zhuk.

 

[Colonel Green]

Fear/Gibson look like solid bets for fifth place overall at Euros, with their improved RD score keeping them basically dead even with the other teams in the second tier. Their free dance scores way ahead of everybody but the expected top four.

 

[cocotaffy]

They broke the world record with two level 2s and a level 3 on the lady’s twizzles and the 8th ranked base value - I think the judges were more than in their corner with GOE and PCS.

It was actually Guillaume's twizzles which got level 3. Level 2 on the pattern is one better than IDF. This time there is a timing issue for one of the calling which does make sense because I understand they chose a particularly challenging piece of music where the beats are not easily identifiable hence their struggling this season. The level 2 on the midline however I don't get. They have plenty of time now to drill it till Worlds. After IDF they couldn't work that much between the French Nat, Christmas and then the Spanish show. Let see how the levels will be called tomorrow.

 

[Ka3sha]

G/F and P/C were underscored.
S/B and the Poles - tremendously overscored.
Nikita is just Nikita

 

[cocotaffy]

Euros is always such a mixed bag and that was certainly that this time around. Nikita did stick around Vika at least instead of just skating away like last Euro disaster. So he has indeed mature #silverlining