The Dance Hall 13: When You Dance on the Ice and Your Feet Twizzle Twice, That's Amore

[Ice_dance_fan]

I haven't rewatched, but in real time, I didn't think Kolesnik's twizzle errors were anywhere as bad as Gilles', and there certainly wasn't that sort of commentary or feedback from the most in-teknik of FSUers who were participating in the pbp threads, so that seems like revisionist history from the conspiracy theorists.

But he got level FOUR for his twizzles with mistake

 

[her grace]

I’ve rewatched. I’d call Gilles level 2 and Kolesnik level 3. If I’m applying the aggressively nitpicky standard the callers used where none of the benefit of the doubt goes to the skater, I can make an argument for Kolesnik to get a base call as well.

ETA: if Gilles’s twizzles were really as bad as the panel said, they shouldn’t have averaged +3 in GOE from the judges. There was definitely a disconnect between what the panel saw and the judges saw.

Personally, I think the base call was aggressively harsh. I watch the JGP; I’ve seen a lot of bad twizzles—they don’t usually get a base level call

 

[Karen-W]

I’ve rewatched. I’d call Gilles level 2 and Kolesnik level 3. If I’m applying the aggressively nitpicky standard the callers used where none of the benefit of the doubt goes to the skater, I can make an argument for Kolesnik to get a base call as well.

Fair enough. So, is this a situation where the woman was punished more severely while the man got away with murdering his twizzles? Reputational judging being what it is - Piper is known to have struggled on her twizzles in the past & gotten her share of lower levels while Vadym is considered by some to possibly be the next greatest male ice dancer in the international field (that might be hyperbole, but I'm not sure it's a far stretch given the tongue-bathing he gets around here most of the time).

 

[ice coverage]

I haven't rewatched, but in real time, I didn't think Kolesnik's twizzle errors were anywhere as bad as Gilles', and there certainly wasn't that sort of commentary or feedback from the most in-teknik of FSUers who were participating in the pbp threads, so that seems like revisionist history from the conspiracy theorists.

Also, IIRC: In real time, Hanretty's commentary did not question Z/K's twizzles at all.
It was only later during slow-motion replay of the twizzles that Hanretty seemed to first notice, and he first remarked upon, imperfection from Kolesnik.